Walter Hinteler
 
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Tue 26 Sep, 2006 08:49 am
For anyone else who wants to kiss the monitor: here's the report WITH photos:

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Walter Hinteler
 
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Wed 27 Sep, 2006 07:10 am
And in today's Chicago Tribune (transcripted from the print version [page 7], since their search function is temporarily unavailable) Mary Schmich means ...


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Walter Hinteler
 
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Wed 27 Sep, 2006 07:13 am
Link to online version of above Chicago Tribune quote
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Thomas
 
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Wed 27 Sep, 2006 07:31 am
Somehow, Walter, you seem to be quoting the Tribune a lot more frequently since our trip to Chicago. What happened? Did Tribune Tower have a stone from Lippstadt city hall embedded in it? Razz
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Wed 27 Sep, 2006 07:36 am
Thomas wrote:
Somehow, Walter, you seem to be quoting the Tribune a lot more frequently since our trip to Chicago.


Nonsense: I'm reading the Albuquerque Journal as well.

And that really has nothing to do with our trip to Chicago! :wink:
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Thomas
 
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Wed 27 Sep, 2006 07:39 am
I see, Walter. My fault.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Wed 27 Sep, 2006 07:48 am
:wink:
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blatham
 
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Wed 27 Sep, 2006 08:14 am
Dreaming of Barack....

http://www.newyorkmetro.com/news/politics/21681/index.html
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Thomas
 
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Wed 27 Sep, 2006 08:29 am
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sozobe
 
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Wed 27 Sep, 2006 08:54 am
That's a truly lovely article, Blatham. The rejection of either/or formulations thing that keeps coming up in that article -- wonderful, wonderful, wonderful. Amazingly, it seems that everything I find out about him adds even more to his appeal. I'm sure the other shoe will drop sometime, but... wow.
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JPB
 
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Wed 27 Sep, 2006 09:30 am
I agree soz, but the article is full of references (and reverences) about people from the midwest and people who know him. With the exception of the statement that he could be a player in at least 40 of 50 states, there's very little feedback from joefromamerica. The last part about waiting four more years and not necessarily becoming an insider seemed like a suggestion from the author.
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blatham
 
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Wed 27 Sep, 2006 02:20 pm
soz

Yeah. I'm in love too. Let's pray that the moving finger doesn't decide to do Shakespearean tragedy with this fellow in this time and place.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Sun 1 Oct, 2006 05:43 am
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Oprah, Obama and the leadership gap

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Clarence Page

Internet sites were offering `Oprah Obama '08!' trucker hats, tote bags and other paraphernalia.
Published October 1, 2006


WASHINGTON -- It's official: Oprah Winfrey refuses to throw her bonnet into the ring as a presidential candidate, but she's more than happy to push Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) for the job. That's what she told Larry King on his CNN program Monday. But, if Winfrey thinks she can defuse the draft-Oprah movement, such as it is, she's probably mistaken. There are forces larger than even Ms. O's charismatic popularity at work here.

By week's end, for example, Internet sites were offering "Oprah Obama '08!" trucker hats, tote bags and other paraphernalia. If nothing else, the T-shirt and bumper sticker industries will keep hope alive for the two big O's. So, alas, will the insatiable 24-hour appetites of cable TV, talk radio and other media. "The media only care about Obama because he's black," say a few e-mails that I have received from unimpressed readers.

Well, as the young folks say, duh-uh! Or, as older folks say, you have a keen grasp of the obvious.

Yes, friends and neighbors, Obama is black or, more precisely, the famously half-black son of a Kenyan father and a white Kansas mom. But our curiosity should only begin with the realities of race, not end there.

The truly intriguing question is why do so many Americans get all warm and excited over the prospect of a viable black presidential candidate?

We've seen serious draft movements rise up in both parties over the last decade: for Obama, Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice. We saw the neoliberal Washington Monthly catch the temperature of the times by urging Democrats in early 2005 to consider Bill Cosby: "A successful, much-loved black man touting education and family values--What's not to love?"

Now Oprah? Patrick Crowe, a retired Kansas City math teacher and former carwash owner, has been promoting a draft-Oprah movement for years. Hardly anyone noticed until Winfrey's lawyers did him the favor of threatening to sue him if he didn't stop using her name on his site. Up steps Lady O, who admonishes her lawyers to leave that dear man alone. She is flattered by Crowe's attention, she said, as if hardly anyone was paying attention to her before.

But why the frenzy to draft Oprah and the rest?

Celebrity star power matters. Just ask Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger. But with all of the political stars who want to run for office, why all the fascination with the above-listed stars who say they aren't interested in running for office?

Another reason: Symbols do matter. I was surprised by several angry e-mails after I referred to Powell and Rice as important "symbols" of America's racial progress. "They're not `symbols,'" the e-mailers said defensively, as if I had said "tokens," which would mean they were not qualified for their jobs. Quite the contrary, it is their impressive qualifications that make them important symbols of progress, regardless of how you feel about their politics.

Obama's 2004 Democratic National Convention speech lit a fire under Democrats by giving them their own Colin Powell, a new face who offered a refreshing platform not only of races and cultures, but also of liberal ideas with traditional values.

Of course, the irony is that the quest to elect a symbol of how America has moved beyond race means that Obama, Rice, Winfrey, Cosby, etc. must be judged at least in part on the color of their skin, not the content of their character, as Martin Luther King Jr. dreamed. This effectively reduces them into something less than the individuals they strive to be. Such are the ways of modern politics, which pit one media-created image against others. But they also help explain why Obama, among others, has good reason to avoid jumping into the presidential ring too soon, if at all.

Which leads to my third explanation for the excitement surrounding Obama, Powell, Winfrey, etc.: Widespread disappointment with the current lineup of likely 2008 presidential candidates.

Democrats fear their current front-runner, New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, won't appeal to crucial moderates. And Arizona Sen. John McCain, the Republican front-runner, faces conservatives as the biggest hurdle in his party.

Behind this disappointment I detect a national yearning for the sort of leader who not only manages daily problem-solving but actually transforms the times in which we live, as Ronald Reagan did from the right and John F. Kennedy from the left. Instead, we see a lineup of "transactional leaders," fixated on short-term remedies and surrounded by spin doctors.

The speech that launched Obama to stardom contained an important element of transformational leadership. The first President Bush called it "the vision thing." It matters a lot more than skin color.
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nimh
 
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Wed 11 Oct, 2006 04:46 pm
Depressingly, Hillary's lead on her potential rivals appears to be only increasing..:

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Hillary is Clear 2008 Favourite for U.S. Democrats

Angus Reid Global Monitor
October 9, 2006

Hillary Rodham Clinton remains the frontrunner for the Democratic Party's nomination in the 2008 United States presidential race, according to a poll by the Marist College Institute for Public Opinion released by WNBC. 35 per cent of respondents would vote for the New York senator in a primary election. [..]

Polling Data

If the 2008 Democratic presidential primary were held today, whom would you support if the candidates are:
(Asked of Democrats and Democratic leaning independents)

Code: Sept. 2006 Feb. 2006

Hillary Clinton 35% 33%

Al Gore 16% 17%

John Edwards 10% 16%

John Kerry 9% 11%

Joe Biden 5% 4%

Mark Warner 2% 2%

Tom Daschle 2% --

Bill Richardson 1% 2%

Russ Feingold 1% --

Wesley Clark 1% 3%

Evan Bayh 1% 3%

Chris Dodd 1% --


Undecided 16% 9%



Source: Marist College Institute for Public Opinion / WNBC
Methodology: Telephone interviews with 1,018 registered American voters, including 345 Democrats, 286 Republicans, and 344 independents, conducted from Sept. 18 to Sept. 20, 2006. Margin of error for the subsample of Democrats and Democratic leaners is 4.5 per cent.
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snood
 
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Wed 11 Oct, 2006 06:48 pm
Let's remember that no one had ever even heard of Bill Clinton until very late in the election season - he wasn't even the most celebrated among the nominee hopefuls.

My point is that I don't think it necessarily carries all that much significance who is "in the lead" fully two years before the election.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Wed 11 Oct, 2006 08:13 pm
snood, Two years before any presidential election is too early to call; your observations are right on!
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littlek
 
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Wed 11 Oct, 2006 08:16 pm
I dunno if Clinton would be the best first woman president.....
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cicerone imposter
 
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Wed 11 Oct, 2006 08:26 pm
I prefer Hillary over Condi. Wink
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snood
 
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Wed 11 Oct, 2006 08:44 pm
Good to see you back, C.I.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Thu 12 Oct, 2006 02:35 am
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From today's Chicago Tribune (report not online at this moment):



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