I saw Kings of Leon opening for Dylan two years ago, they are pretty good but not to be mentioned in the same breath as the The Boss and the E-streeters. And Dave Matthews??? Puhleeeeeeeeze!
Actually, The Boss is touring with the "E Sreet Band" and was in San Jose and I missed them.
I have no idea about the current compostion of the E Street Band, I know Clarence Clemmons was a main cog.
Roxxxanne wrote:
LOL you are a rock critic now? Springsteen and the E street band are considered on of the best live rock acts in all time, THE BEST by many critics.
I saw him perform with just an acoustic guitar and he was great. Too bad I never heard him with the E street band back in the day. They kick serious ass!
I saw them play the Orange Bowl during the "born in the USA tour" and they sucked ass!
I'v never seen "born in the USA" is it anything like "bored in a chevrolet".?
Anyone but the Miami Dolphins or Miami Hurricanes would suck in the OB.
The acoustics are great for making noise on defense but not for any kind of music.
Re debate...picking up pieces of it and commentary from here and there...
I'm really not certain at all whether "an informed citizenry" is possible within this media regime. My pessimism is about as thorough as it has ever been. The present situation is deeply poisonous and it is hard to imagine how that might change.
Did you know that Dave Mathews played in the basement bar of my building here in Cville when they first got started? The Mineshaft. They moved across the street to another place rather quickly, though.
The Mineshaft was pretty disgusting, but got some good musicians coming through (including a senior member of A2K).
On many occasions we would drag our air-mattresses into the space above the club. We could hear the music but not of course see the performers. And the bathrooms worked, unlike in the basement below sometimes.
The rule was that, once you came in, you had to turn over your car keys.
There was alcohol and some other stuff involved, but johnboy knows nothing, of course, about the latter.
I never liked Dave Mathew's music.
We are all marking time, marching in place, until Tuesday in PA. Filling time.
Well, everyone has to start somewhere, my band played in the same little club as SRV (Split Rail on Lamar in Austin) Marcia Ball and The Fab Thunderbirds The open air BYOB beer joint was replaced by a McDonalds years ago. Those were the days, got to sing with Willie's band members sans Willie at his Mom's Pool Hall too. Later, Nanci Griffith and I got to meet Willie and he taught me the chords to Crazy.
Wow! I just googled Nanci and she, like myself, is doing torch songs too! (I am working on a CD of Billie Holiday songs, a lot opf people say I do em as well as her.
Thank you Okie. That was hilarious. I was trying to figure out which one of those responses beneath the video is you. My guess is this person:
Quote:Comment by REDNECK WOMAN
April 16th, 2008 at 10:59 pm
Then why couldn't b.o. answer the question tonight about wearing a flag pen???? why couldn;t he just straight forward with an answer??? dont forget,,, b.o. is a member of that church,, wright was his mentor for 20 yrs, and even though rev wright served this country,, he must hate this country because he is the one that said g.d. america,, and that we are the ones that flew those planes into the buildings,,, this is just plain wrong! why do thet want to give farrakahn an award??? does that sound patrotic to you? no!! b.o. wont even put his hand on his heart when the anthem is playing,, I DO. do you?? yes I am patriotic,,, my son is still in the army,, stationed in the states for now,, he could be sent back this year,,, I am proud to be an american, I cant help it if there are draft dodgers,, I only know the honor of our men of today. b.o. should wear a flag somewhere,, but if he doesn;t,,,, then he IS NOT PATRIOTIC
That is so you! You are REDNECK WOMAN, aren't you, Okie? I'm right aren't I?
Back to Obama, the "debate" is on now, progressives across the country are calling for Clinton hack Snuffolupoulus to be fired over his tabloid moderation.
ABC NEws (212) 456-7777
The Nation -- We're into the 21st debate. We've been through fifteen months of this primary calendar or, as ABC's Charles Gibson put it in introducing what may well be the last....we're into "round 15."
These boys love their sports metaphors.
But tonight it's not those sports metaphors that have me throwing my Subway sandwich at the TV. It's the relentless stream of "gotcha" questions that ABC's top news commentators pose that have me angry, frustrated and, yes, bitter. Whether it's George Stephanopolous pushing Obama and Clinton to make a "No New Taxes" pledge....(George--please reconnect with your inner self: the intelligent, humane guy who did good battle with Alan Greenspan and Bob Rubin in trying to stop them from putting profits before people)...Or Gibson making the leap of equating electability with Obama's decision not to wear a flag pin? (Patriotism, as Obama explained, slowly, carefully, means ensuring that we take care of veterans who've served their country and done real patriotic duty.) These kinds of questions foreclose room for a full, real and honest debate about this country's future, and its politics and policies at home and abroad.
Barack Obama put it well when he spoke of how the two anchors of this evening's debate (and so much of our elitist media & punditocracy) seem interested mainly in "manufactured issues"-- Jeremiah Wright, dodging bullets in Tuzla, flag lapel pins and Bill Ayers-- a major reason so many decent and generous Americans tune out this media.
"Pain trickles up" is how Obama tonight described John McCain's economic policies. That smart riff brought pain to Charles Gibson's face. In a previous debate, Gibson, who must make a few million a year, made a class gaffe when he estimated that professors in a small New Hampshire college made close to $200,000. Laughter filled the hall that night. Americans of Main Street got a glimpse into a media that has far more friends on Wall Street.
Tonight, Gibson seemed shocked when the two candidates spoke of raising taxes on the very richest in this country. He seemed far more concerned about the Democratic candidates' proposal to raise the capital gains tax--and what he claimed would be the lost revenue-- than the fact, as the New York Times's Steven Greenhouse reports in his new must-read book, The Big Squeeze, that "since 1979, hourly earnings for 80 percent of American workers have risen by just 1, after inflation...[at a time when]the nation's economic pie is growing, but corporations by and large have not given their workers a bigger piece"
A one percent raise in almost thirty years? Still not bitter?
Excuse me, are you really debating the fact that Springsteen is one of the best live acts ever? Please go on record as saying that and we will see who has dug himself a hole.
The E-street band was in it's heyday in the 70s and 80s. I haven't heard them in ten years, they might suck now for all I know.
So please go on record that Dave Matthews is a bigger icon and a better live act than Springsteen.
What about the Kings of Leon?
Roxxxanne wrote:I saw Kings of Leon opening for Dylan two years ago, they are pretty good but not to be mentioned in the same breath as the The Boss and the E-streeters. And Dave Matthews??? Puhleeeeeeeeze!
Actually, The Boss is touring with the "E Sreet Band" and was in San Jose and I missed them.
I have no idea about the current compostion of the E Street Band, I know Clarence Clemmons was a main cog.
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Springsteen wasn't touring then, that is why he wasn't included. No way anyone who is not tone deaf would include the Kings of Leon and Dave Matthews and not Springsteen.
kickycan wrote:
Thank you Okie. That was hilarious. I was trying to figure out which one of those responses beneath the video is you. My guess is this person:
Quote:Comment by REDNECK WOMAN
April 16th, 2008 at 10:59 pm
Then why couldn't b.o. answer the question tonight about wearing a flag pen???? why couldn;t he just straight forward with an answer??? dont forget,,, b.o. is a member of that church,, wright was his mentor for 20 yrs, and even though rev wright served this country,, he must hate this country because he is the one that said g.d. america,, and that we are the ones that flew those planes into the buildings,,, this is just plain wrong! why do thet want to give farrakahn an award??? does that sound patrotic to you? no!! b.o. wont even put his hand on his heart when the anthem is playing,, I DO. do you?? yes I am patriotic,,, my son is still in the army,, stationed in the states for now,, he could be sent back this year,,, I am proud to be an american, I cant help it if there are draft dodgers,, I only know the honor of our men of today. b.o. should wear a flag somewhere,, but if he doesn;t,,,, then he IS NOT PATRIOTIC
That is so you! You are REDNECK WOMAN, aren't you, Okie? I'm right aren't I?
You've not been right about much of anything so far, and your theory here is no better.
Roxxxanne wrote:Springsteen wasn't touring then, that is why he wasn't included.
Date of article: 23 July 2007
Link I just posted:
Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band 2007 tour itinerary
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I dont care a whit about this subject - I dont believe that "many critics" consider Springsteen and the E street band "THE BEST live rock act in all time", but it's not like I care, plus it's OT. I just cant believe how you just keep pulling this **** out of your ass, thazall.
A pretty good sumary of the debate is
HERE .
Quote:The New York senator repeatedly zeroed in on Wright and -- after Stephanopoulos opened the issue -- Obama's relationship with fellow Chicagoan William Ayers, the 1960s radical who is now an education professor at the University of Illinois. She noted that Obama and Ayers were at one point on the same philanthropic board.
"I think it is, again, an issue that people will be asking about," said Clinton, who repeatedly characterized herself as thoroughly vetted during her husband's administration.
Adopting a more-in-sorrow-than-anger mien, she added: "I know Sen. Obama's a good man, and I respect him greatly, but I think that this is an issue that certainly the Republicans will be raising. And it goes to this larger set of concerns about, you know, how we are going to run against John McCain," the unofficial GOP nominee.
Obama noted that Clinton's husband had pardoned associates of the Weather Underground in the closing days of his tenure, and sought to turn Clinton's barbs into proof that he, in November, would be able to "take a punch." He renewed his objections to Wright's most inflammatory statements but said that they had overshadowed the good he had done as pastor, until recently, of Obama's Chicago church.
The reference to Ayers, whom Obama characterized as a casual acquaintance, led the Illinois senator to upbraid Stephanopoulos and by extension Clinton. It made no sense, Obama said, that he be blamed for "somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago when I was 8 years old."
More broadly, Obama argued that Clinton's approach was the very thing his campaign was meant to change. Defending his comments about the economically disaffected -- which he acknowledged were "mangled up" -- he said that as a person of faith and one who respected the rights of gun owners, he meant no insult.
"The problem that we have in our politics, which is fairly typical, is that you take one person's statement, if it's not properly phrased, and you just beat it to death. And that's what Sen. Clinton's been doing over the last four days," he said.
He expressed sympathy for criticism Clinton has received over the years from political opponents.
"But the problem is that that's the kind of politics that we've been accustomed to," he said. "And I think Sen. Clinton learned the wrong lesson from it, because she's adopting the same tactics. What the American people want are not distractions. They want to figure out how are we actually going to deliver on healthcare; how are we going to deliver better jobs for people; how are we doing to improve their incomes; how are we going to send them to college?"
