Obama '08?

teenyboone wrote:

Maybe I'm the only one who has the guts to say it! It IS a country founded by whites FOR whites, the way it's being run. What about the "natives", Indians as Columbus mistakenly called them? Their whole country has been taken, FOR the white man! When I say native, and you know what I mean by being facetious,

What about the Spaniards that took Mexico and killed many of the Indians down there? What about the Spaniards that intermarried with Indians? And so what about immigrants from Mexico, do we filter out the ones with Spanish heritage vs. the true Indians? What about the Indians that came later and killed off natives, such as the Navajos. before white man even got to Arizona and New Mexico? After all, they apparently came in later from the north and conquered and drove out the ancestral pueblo people that came from the south much much earlier. What about whites that inter-married with natives? What are they, Americans or imposters?

As a matter of fact, what about Obama? Is he only half American, or not even that? Come to think of it, why didn't you mention this earlier? Since Obama is half white, and not native, he must not be qualified to even live here, let alone run for president.

okie wrote:

teenyboone wrote:

Maybe I'm the only one who has the guts to say it! It IS a country founded by whites FOR whites, the way it's being run. What about the "natives", Indians as Columbus mistakenly called them? Their whole country has been taken, FOR the white man! When I say native, and you know what I mean by being facetious, I mean any person born of an American Mother and father. Any person born outside the United States of an American Mother and Father, automatically is considered an American and you knew that, just as I do. You just can't stand it when I'm right!

What about the Spaniards that took Mexico and killed many of the Indians down there? What about the Spaniards that intermarried with Indians? And so what about immigrants from Mexico, do we filter out the ones with Spanish heritage vs. the true Indians? What about the Indians that came later and killed off natives, such as the Navajos. before white man even got to Arizona and New Mexico? After all, they apparently came in later from the north and conquered and drove out the ancestral pueblo people that came from the south much much earlier. What about whites that inter-married with natives? What are they, Americans or imposters?

As a matter of fact, what about Obama? Is he only half American, or not even that? Come to think of it, why didn't you mention this earlier? Since Obama is half white, and not native, he must not be qualified to even live here, let alone run for president.

But teeny has guts!

He/she apparently doesn't know that "A 1996 survey[64] revealed that more American Indians in the United States preferred American Indian to Native American" Source

Bi-Polar Bear wrote:

teeny is good for a laugh... and with the way thngs are going.... that's all we have left...

"We", who disgruntled burnout guy?

kickycan wrote:

okie wrote:

http://embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/04/16/obama-i-am-pretty-darned-good-politician/



Put on your high topped wadin boots, people, its gettin deep out there.

Thank you Okie. That was hilarious. I was trying to figure out which one of those responses beneath the video is you. My guess is this person:

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Comment by REDNECK WOMAN
April 16th, 2008 at 10:59 pm

Then why couldn't b.o. answer the question tonight about wearing a flag pen???? why couldn;t he just straight forward with an answer??? dont forget,,, b.o. is a member of that church,, wright was his mentor for 20 yrs, and even though rev wright served this country,, he must hate this country because he is the one that said g.d. america,, and that we are the ones that flew those planes into the buildings,,, this is just plain wrong! why do thet want to give farrakahn an award??? does that sound patrotic to you? no!! b.o. wont even put his hand on his heart when the anthem is playing,, I DO. do you?? yes I am patriotic,,, my son is still in the army,, stationed in the states for now,, he could be sent back this year,,, I am proud to be an american, I cant help it if there are draft dodgers,, I only know the honor of our men of today. b.o. should wear a flag somewhere,, but if he doesn;t,,,, then he IS NOT PATRIOTIC

That is so you! You are REDNECK WOMAN, aren't you, Okie? I'm right aren't I?

You've not been right about much of anything so far, and your theory here is no better.

Has this been posted? Article by Thomas Sowell on Obama:

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/ThomasSowell/2008/03/26/the_audacity_of_rhetoric

some quotes:

"Barack Obama's own account of his life shows that he consciously sought out people on the far left fringe. In college, "I chose my friends carefully," he said in his first book, "Dreams From My Father."

These friends included "Marxist professors and structural feminists and punk rock performance poets" -- in Obama's own words -- as well as the "more politically active black students." He later visited a former member of the terrorist Weatherman underground, who endorsed him when he ran for state senator."

"In Shelby Steele's brilliantly insightful book about Barack Obama -- "A Bound Man" -- it is painfully clear that Obama was one of those people seeking a racial identity that he had never really experienced in growing up in a white world. He was trying to become a convert to blackness, as it were -- and, like many converts, he went overboard.

Nor has Obama changed in recent years. His voting record in the U.S. Senate is the furthest left of any Senator. There is a remarkable consistency in what Barack Obama has done over the years, despite inconsistencies in what he says.

The irony is that Obama's sudden rise politically to the level of being the leading contender for his party's presidential nomination has required him to project an entirely different persona, that of a post-racial leader who can heal divisiveness and bring us all together.

The ease with which he has accomplished this chameleon-like change, and entranced both white and black Democrats, is a tribute to the man's talent and a warning about his reliability."

Setanta wrote:

God it's hilarious to see the reactionaries talking about someone and claiming they're socialist. Obama may be to the left of Francisco Franco, but that's about it. People like Okie seem to think that not being as far right as Genghis Kahn makes you a pinko . . .

Okay, laugh, I am just observing the obvious, that if you don't want a leftist in office, do not vote for Obama, thats all. Don't say nobody warned you concerning the election. If you want a leftist, vote Obama.

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More broadly, Obama argued that Clinton's approach was the very thing his campaign was meant to change. [..] "The problem that we have in our politics, which is fairly typical, is that you take one person's statement, if it's not properly phrased, and you just beat it to death. And that's what Sen. Clinton's been doing over the last four days," he said.

He expressed sympathy for criticism Clinton has received over the years from political opponents.

"But the problem is that that's the kind of politics that we've been accustomed to," he said. "And I think Sen. Clinton learned the wrong lesson from it, because she's adopting the same tactics. What the American people want are not distractions. They want to figure out how are we actually going to deliver on healthcare; how are we going to deliver better jobs for people; how are we doing to improve their incomes; how are we going to send them to college?"

Divide and promise

Editor: Finally a politician has said what so many Americans truly feel. Pennsylvania has become a state of bitterness, anger and resentment. Whereas this state represented the land of opportunity for millions of immigrants as late as 50 years ago, it has now become the center of nativism, failing cities and decreasing population.

In addition to our local challenges, Pennsylvanians see a government led by those with increasingly deep pockets for lobbyists, and with their proverbial thumb on the pulse of American values and concerns. Simply put, our politicians have failed to deliver on the promises set out by them when elected. Our last three presidents have not only failed to return Pennsylvania to its status as a keystone of the American economy, they have also damaged the faith of Americans in the office of the presidency. From promising no new taxes to looking for a definition of "is," to searching for WMD, our leaders have broken the emotional, political and governmental contract with the American people.

This occurs because politicians have discovered that the key to gaining power is divide and promise. Local politicians should be ashamed as they stoke the fires of nativism for political gain. [..] In addition to this, every politician has made unkept promises. However, accountability for these mistakes is nonexistent because they have developed techniques of distraction and division that keep Pennsylvanians from asking for (or discovering) the truth. This cannot stand anymore.

Barack Obama is a politician who provides Americans with a unique opportunity for change. [..] Political machine members (local and state) fear his message of change because he threatens the decades of cronyism that has hurt this area seriously. That is why they choose to support Sen. Hillary Clinton, a candidate whose record of mistruths rivals that of her husband and our current president.

Pennsylvania Democrats have an opportunity to shed the big brother/old boy network that is desperately trying to hold on to power. Yes, we are embittered by our experiences, but we are hopeful for the future with Barack Obama as president.

MICHAEL PERROTTI
LAKE WINOLA

One of the things Obama wanted to convey last night was that he is not guilty by association with people like Keyes and Wright. That while he may be friends with those people, he does not seek their advice or counsel. It was a good answer to the question, but left me wondering about his judgement.

Now, I don't expect either Keyes or Wright will have much to say about Obama's Presidency (should he be elected), but [w]ho will Obama choose to be in his cabinet? Can we risk Obama's judgement to be sound in making those decisions?

Although Obama has had a solidly liberal voting record in the Senate -- the most liberal record in 2007, according to an analysis by National Journal -- his policy advisers tend to be moderates. Indeed, Obama explains his roll-call record as a product of votes that push senators to one extreme or the other, and he maintains that his presidency would move the nation into a less ideological, more cooperative era.

What follow are mini-profiles of many of the key players on Obama's political and policy squads.

It's quite a turn-around -- and in the back of my mind, I'm thinking that maybe, this is not altogether a bad thing.

I think I like this debate (the "bitter" thing).

1.) It keeps newspapers, pundits, etc. from saying that it's all over for Hillary shortly before the PA primary. I think that helps her, mobilizes a certain "it ain't over yet!!" crowd.

2.) The attempt is to paint Obama as elitist, but he's actually saying something pretty sympathetic to PA voters. I mean, her campaign is handing out stickers that say "I'm not bitter;" is that actually true? How are people going to react to being told that they're not bitter? Isn't that the worst of what people have accused Obama of with the "hope" stuff?

It was all Bill and Michelle at events yesterday, while Hillary and Barack prepared for the debate.

I'd be very surprised if Barack Obama doesn't show up before your primary. Columbus saw 3 Barack Obama appearances and 1 Michelle Obama appearance before ours.

Just checked, you're May 20th? Plenty of time.

Obama makes it hard for people to want to vote for him when he sends his wife to campaign for him, instead of showing up himself.
Hillary was in Evansville a few weeks ago (an event I went to), but Obama sent his wife here instead of showing up himself.

Apparently he doesnt realize that people would rather hear him speak for himself instead of thru surrogates.

sozobe wrote:

It was all Bill and Michelle at events yesterday, while Hillary and Barack prepared for the debate.

I'd be very surprised if Barack Obama doesn't show up before your primary. Columbus saw 3 Barack Obama appearances and 1 Michelle Obama appearance before ours.

Just checked, you're May 20th? Plenty of time.

Indiana is May 6.
Evansville is in Indiana, about 45 minutes away from here.
As far as I know, both Hillary and Obama have no plans to come to this part of KY, so seeing them in Evansville was the only opportunity any of the tri-state voters will have to see them.

FYI, the tri-state is the area where In, Il, and KY all meet.

As far as I know, both Hillary and Obama have no plans to come to this part of KY, so seeing them in Evansville was the only opportunity any of the tri-state voters will have to see them.