Obama '08?

teenyboone wrote:

Who are the Majority in this country? Whites, right? Whatever benefits whites, should benefit ALL native Americans, do you agree, or is this a "for whites only" country?

As soon as another race gets a benefit, whites start screaming unfair, while they're getting it all along! Does not my taxes match yours, if we are making the same wages? Shouldn't I pay my fair share and if so, shouldn't I reap the benefit also, if I NEED it? :wink:

Could you clarify what you are referring to here? Is there a 'white-only' social program out there that I'm not aware of?

As soon as another race gets a benefit, whites start screaming unfair, while they're getting it all along! Does not my taxes match yours, if we are making the same wages? Shouldn't I pay my fair share and if so, shouldn't I reap the benefit also, if I NEED it?

Teeny said...

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As soon as another race gets a benefit, whites start screaming unfair, while they're getting it all along! Does not my taxes match yours, if we are making the same wages? Shouldn't I pay my fair share and if so, shouldn't I reap the benefit also, if I NEED it?

If we are making the same wage, AND if we have the exact same deductions, AND if we live in the same state, then yes your taxes match mine.
But since every state has its own tax rate,and since some county and/or local govts also have an income tax, I doubt if your taxes match mine.

Could you clarify what you are referring to here? Is there a 'white-only' social program out there that I'm not aware of?

mysteryman wrote:

Obama stuck his foot in his mouth last night.

According to the Huffpost, at a fundraiser in San Francisco, he claimed

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Ironically, this is an area--foreign policy is the area where I am probably most confident that I know more and understand the world better than Senator Clinton or Senator McCain."

How is this possible?
He has NEVER had a single meeting of the subcommittee he chairs, yet now he wants to claim he knows more about foreign affairs?
He is gonna catch hell from Hillary for that statement, and in this case it is deserved.

The whole story is here...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mayhill-fowler/obama-says-no-to-foreign_b_95357.html

Not only that, MM, I heard he has never or almost never traveled to Europe in recent years, except maybe to London, and he is supposedly involved with European affairs on this committee. This is actually quite unbelievable for a so-called presidential candidate.

maporsche wrote:

ebrown_p wrote:

Could you clarify what you are referring to here? Is there a 'white-only' social program out there that I'm not aware of?

You mean... other than the presidency (as Clinton supporters don't think that a non-white can win)?

The presidency is not a social program that targets whites specifically.

And I don't recall any Clinton supporter saying that only whites can win the presidency. I'm sure you'll be able to back up that statement though, you're usually quite thorough.

maporsche wrote:

maporsche wrote:

ebrown_p wrote:

Could you clarify what you are referring to here? Is there a 'white-only' social program out there that I'm not aware of?

You mean... other than the presidency (as Clinton supporters don't think that a non-white can win)?

The presidency is not a social program that targets whites specifically.

And I don't recall any Clinton supporter saying that only whites can win the presidency. I'm sure you'll be able to back up that statement though, you're usually quite thorough.

So you agree that Obama can win in the general election?

That kind of scuttles the "superdelegates should overturn the results of the primaries" argument the Clintons and their supporters are making.

I knew the Clinton's would pull something. I'd LOVE to hear those backroom threat sessions I hear Bill has been running.

Lash wrote:

I knew the Clinton's would pull something. I'd LOVE to hear those backroom threat sessions I hear Bill has been running.

Don't seem to have been all that effective, though, do they?

Cycloptichorn

Still ROTFLMAO about real life drinking the right-wing Ayers kool-aid.

mysteryman wrote:

Obama stuck his foot in his mouth last night.

According to the Huffpost, at a fundraiser in San Francisco, he claimed

Quote:

Ironically, this is an area--foreign policy is the area where I am probably most confident that I know more and understand the world better than Senator Clinton or Senator McCain."

How is this possible?
He has NEVER had a single meeting of the subcommittee he chairs, yet now he wants to claim he knows more about foreign affairs?
He is gonna catch hell from Hillary for that statement, and in this case it is deserved.

The whole story is here...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mayhill-fowler/obama-says-no-to-foreign_b_95357.html

Not only that, MM, I heard he has never or almost never traveled to Europe in recent years, except maybe to London, and he is supposedly involved with European affairs on this committee. This is actually quite unbelievable for a so-called presidential candidate.

"Superdelegates don't have to follow the vote.."

Lash wrote:

"Superdelegates don't have to follow the vote.."

True, they don't.

In fact, if they were required to they would be little more than a rubber stamp.

Why have supers if they don't have a voice?

The DNC obviously had this situation in mind when they put the supers in place.

If the DNC intended the supers to be a redundant reflection of the popular vote, then they are useless. They serve no purpose at all.

Those of you who are frustrated and perplexed by the organizational ineptitude of the Democrat National Committee and its evident inability to craft primary election rules and a delegate structure that its local groups would tolerate, or to forsee the adverse side effects they would create should reflect on the fact that these habitual defects also infest the complex government-run systems and structures they would enact to "cure" all our problems. Right now the comedy is being played out in the Democrat Party. We should all dread the prospect of expanding it to include the whole government.

Bungled illegal war vs. bungled Michigan primary. Which is worse? Too close to call, I say.