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snood, your point is a pretty good one, but the parallel is not at all correct. Abuse of children for example was not and is not part of the official belief system or basic doctrine of the Catholic Church. Simply look at the Jeremiah Wright church's own website and you will see what the church is based on, the basic doctrine and what the church teaches, which is political and laced with bigotry as part of the Black Liberation Theology.

Examining the full content of Wright's sermons and delivery style yields a far more complex message, though it's one that some will still find objectionable. For more than 30 years every Sunday, Wright walked churchgoers along a winding road from rage to reconciliation, employing a style that validated both. "He's voicing a reality that those people experience six days a week," said Rev. Dwight Hopkins, a professor at the University of Chicago Divinity School and Trinity member. "In that sense, he's saying they're not insane. That helps them to function the other six days of the week."
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Wright's preaching, which mixes theology with the often-troubled history of race relations in America, is in the "prophetic" tradition, one of many that have evolved in black pulpits.

Shocking words like "God damn America" lie at the core of prophetic preaching, said Rev. Bernard Richardson, dean of the chapel at Howard University. "The prophets in Scripture . . . their language wasn't pleasing to hear, and sometimes we need to be reminded of that," he said.

Some pastors and scholars criticize Wright for not moving beyond the struggles of the civil rights era. Others say his messages are too divisive and political. Some say he just goes too far.
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okie wrote:

snood, your point is a pretty good one, but the parallel is not at all correct. Abuse of children for example was not and is not part of the official belief system or basic doctrine of the Catholic Church. Simply look at the Jeremiah Wright church's own website and you will see what the church is based on, the basic doctrine and what the church teaches, which is political and laced with bigotry as part of the Black Liberation Theology.

The church is unapologetically african american, started by blacks and in tune with the issues that most affect the minority community. If you want to try to tie Rev Wright's most outlandish and upsetting words with some kind of basic racial pathology in the church's overall mission, what would you say to regularly attending WHITE members?

There are issues in Black households, that ALL Black children are taught and one is not to talk to any whites about anything. A security mechanism, because when whites question, there's usually an ulterior motive.

Over the centuries, Blacks learned to keep their eyes and ears open and their mouths shut. It's called "survival of the fittest". Like Italians and other ethnics, Blacks have a code of silence, but are almost forced to give up their own, for reasons, i can't state.

teenyboone wrote:

There are issues in Black households, that ALL Black children are taught and one is not to talk to any whites about anything. A security mechanism, because when whites question, there's usually an ulterior motive.

Would someone please explain to me HOW this is not a racist statement?

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Over the centuries, Blacks learned to keep their eyes and ears open and their mouths shut. It's called "survival of the fittest". Like Italians and other ethnics, Blacks have a code of silence, but are almost forced to give up their own, for reasons, i can't state.

This one too.
I guess it takes one to know one, huh? You never learn, because you don't use a dictionary. Please look the word up. A racist is a person or group, that discriminates against a person or group, illegally, for no apparent reason.
I am a minority. Predjudiced? Maybe, but that's because historically Blacks were systemically discriminated by choice and by illegal laws, passed in the United States, for the express purpose of barring Africans and their descendants from participating in society and used biblical passages, as well as color to bar such ?residents? from decent housing, education, equal access and the ordinary things you take for granted, which I call "entitlement". Take away ONE of these and YOU'd be screaming RACISM, too! Can I join your church, club, organizations, schools, etc, without one of you questioning, what do I want?

Be Black for ONE day and see if you don't see life as we do! Racists? You invented it, so why question me?




Teeny, I have to agree with Tico here. YOU have been the biggest racist on this board that I've seen in a while.

maporsche wrote:

teenyboone wrote:

There are issues in Black households, that ALL Black children are taught and one is not to talk to any whites about anything. A security mechanism, because when whites question, there's usually an ulterior motive.

Would someone please explain to me HOW this is not a racist statement?

Quote:

Over the centuries, Blacks learned to keep their eyes and ears open and their mouths shut. It's called "survival of the fittest". Like Italians and other ethnics, Blacks have a code of silence, but are almost forced to give up their own, for reasons, i can't state.

This one too.

Teeny, I have to agree with Tico here. YOU have been the biggest racist on this board that I've seen in a while.

I guess it takes one to know one, huh? You never learn, because you don't use a dictionary. Please look the word up. A racist is a person or group, that discriminates against a person or group, illegally, for no apparent reason.
I am a minority. Predjudiced? Maybe, but that's because historically Blacks were systemically discriminated by choice and by illegal laws, passed in the United States, for the express purpose of barring Africans and their descendants from participating in society and used biblical passages, as well as color to bar such ?residents? from decent housing, education, equal access and the ordinary things you take for granted, which I call "entitlement". Take away ONE of these and YOU'd be screaming RACISM, too! Can I join your church, club, organizations, schools, etc, without one of you questioning, what do I want?

Be Black for ONE day and see if you don't see life as we do! Racists? You invented it, so why question me?

teenyboone wrote:

There are issues in Black households, that ALL Black children are taught and one is not to talk to any whites about anything. A security mechanism, because when whites question, there's usually an ulterior motive.

Would someone please explain to me HOW this is not a racist statement?


Over the centuries, Blacks learned to keep their eyes and ears open and their mouths shut. It's called "survival of the fittest". Like Italians and other ethnics, Blacks have a code of silence, but are almost forced to give up their own, for reasons, i can't state.

This one too.

Teeny, I have to agree with Tico here. YOU have been the biggest racist on this board that I've seen in a while.

Can I join your church, club, organizations, schools, etc, without one of you questioning, what do I want?

teenyboone wrote:

maporsche wrote:

teenyboone wrote:

There are issues in Black households, that ALL Black children are taught and one is not to talk to any whites about anything. A security mechanism, because when whites question, there's usually an ulterior motive.

Would someone please explain to me HOW this is not a racist statement?

Quote:

Over the centuries, Blacks learned to keep their eyes and ears open and their mouths shut. It's called "survival of the fittest". Like Italians and other ethnics, Blacks have a code of silence, but are almost forced to give up their own, for reasons, i can't state.

This one too.

Teeny, I have to agree with Tico here. YOU have been the biggest racist on this board that I've seen in a while.

I guess it takes one to know one, huh? You never learn, because you don't use a dictionary. Please look the word up. A racist is a person or group, that discriminates against a person or group, illegally, for no apparent reason.
I am a minority. Predjudiced? Maybe, but that's because historically Blacks were systemically discriminated by choice and by illegal laws, passed in the United States, for the express purpose of barring Africans and their descendants from participating in society and used biblical passages, as well as color to bar such ?residents? from decent housing, education, equal access and the ordinary things you take for granted, which I call "entitlement". Take away ONE of these and YOU'd be screaming RACISM, too! Can I join your church, club, organizations, schools, etc, without one of you questioning, what do I want?

Be Black for ONE day and see if you don't see life as we do! Racists? You invented it, so why question me?

Please show me ONE racist comment that I've made before calling me a racist.

I'm 28 years old. Please tell me how I have in ANY way been responsible for any white vs black systematic racism.

I didn't invent racism. That is why I can question you. You're out of line here Teeny.

I guess it takes one to know one, huh? You never learn, because you don't use a dictionary. Please look the word up. A racist is a person or group, that discriminates against a person or group, for no apparent reason, than prejudice taught by whites to other whites.

rac·ism /ˈreɪsɪzəm/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[rey-siz-uhm] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
-noun 1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.

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Can I join your church, club, organizations, schools, etc, without one of you questioning, what do I want?

Absolutely you can.
If you want, I will personally recommend you for membership on our fire dept.
We are always looking for good people.
You are also welcome to joing my local american Legion post (but you do have to be a veteran).