Obama '08?

but there should be no argument that Wright's views are bigoted and hateful.

teenyboone wrote:

Roxxxanne wrote:

teenyboone is right and Foxfyre is a prime example of people who don't 't get it due to their inability to see past their prejudice.

Roxxxanne:
I appreciate your support. Instead of making rash judgements! Blessed are the peacemakers! You're one of them!

Thank you! I am not black but as a teen, I got a job working in the African-American community in Baltimore as well as getting involved in the Civil Rights movement. (it was a MOST rewarding experience) Even for me, it is impossible to completely understand the black experience in America but I do have a better understanding than most white folk. People like ma and FF just don't get it and I find people who are not overt in their bigotry are the most dangerous.

It was Wright's tone more than anything that frightens whites. Except for his GD America statement,I didn't find the words offensive. The only reason that Obama suffered politically from this is becasue the MSM palyed these words on a continuous loop.


Obama has a base of two million donors. We are all simply going to have to dig down and send in our fives, tens and twenties to counteract the 527 smears that are sure to come in the fall.

But We Shall Overcome

Roxxxanne wrote:

teenyboone is right and Foxfyre is a prime example of people who don't 't get it due to their inability to see past their prejudice.

Roxxxanne:
Blessed are the peacemakers! You're one of them!

Yup, I worked in the very same neighborhoods depicted in The Wire.I never felt threatened .In fact, I was embraced but that was before the King riots.

Roxxxanne wrote:

teenyboone is right and Foxfyre is a prime example of people who don't 't get it due to their inability to see past their prejudice.

Roxxxanne:
I appreciate your support. Instead of making rash judgements! Blessed are the peacemakers! You're one of them!

I suspect the reason people vote in presidential elections is because they feel like their participation and support may serve to make their country and their world as they see it, better.

I can only speak for myself, but I have been a supporter of Obama since he announced that he would be seeking the office of POTUS, because I believe and think that he is the best prospect available to put this country on a better track than it has been.

This thread was created by someone asking the question - could he actually be a viable candidate?

The answer to that has been a resounding "Yes!"

Now he is being faced with the biggest challenge to his candidacy yet - Reverend Wright. The polls have shown that the playing and re-playing of the most incendiary that could be found of Reverend Wright's words have had the effect of decreasing the numbers of Obama's support, and decreasing the intensity of the loyalty for him.

But here's the thing...

Those who are the most apoplectic, the most exercised about this Jeremiah Wright thing are not those who have been somehow disenchanted by it- those who would otherwise be stalwart supporters of Obama and who now have had to think again.

It is those WHO WOULD NOT HAVE VOTED FOR OBAMA UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE (represented by the A2Kers bombarding this thread for the last 20 or so pages) who are making the stink.

That's why I think the stink will settle, notwithstanding what Finn and Maporsche say.

Obama might have an excellent chance of going all the way.

WASHINGTON - Senators from both parties on Sunday urged the Department of Justice to investigate the unauthorized searches of the passport files of three presidential candidates by State Department contract workers.

"That kind of a breach of privacy is just despicable," said Pennsylvania Sen. Arlen Specter, the top Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee. "I think that ought to be a very intense investigation."

Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Ore., agreed, saying the incidents seem to point to a broader problem.

"The Government Accountability Office has been warning about this problem for a decade. And it seems to me in this administration, there's been pretty much a culture of disregard for privacy, and that's part of the problem," he said.

Both senators spoke on CNN's "Late Edition."

Roxxxanne wrote:

teenyboone wrote:

Roxxxanne wrote:

teenyboone is right and Foxfyre is a prime example of people who don't 't get it due to their inability to see past their prejudice.

Roxxxanne:
I appreciate your support. Instead of making rash judgements! Blessed are the peacemakers! You're one of them!

Thank you! I am not black but as a teen, I got a job working in the African-American community in Baltimore as well as getting involved in the Civil Rights movement. (it was a MOST rewarding experience) Even for me, it is impossible to completely understand the black experience in America but I do have a better understanding than most white folk. People like ma and FF just don't get it and I find people who are not overt in their bigotry are the most dangerous.

It was Wright's tone more than anything that frightens whites. Except for his GD America statement,I didn't find the words offensive. The only reason that Obama suffered politically from this is because the MSM played these words on a continuous loop.


Obama has a base of two million donors. We are all simply going to have to dig down and send in our fives, tens and twenties to counteract the 527 smears that are sure to come in the fall.

But We Shall Overcome

Roxxxanne,
You've worked in an area, not even I would want to have worked in. My daughters' brother-in-law, lives in Baltimore, in a better than average neighborhood. We drove there from Montgomery County, where my daughter lives and SHE told me, "Ma, lock your door", while she drove through a section, of town, that looked like Baghdad! I live in NJ, 3.5 hours from downtown Washington, DC.

I travel I-95 south, every other weekend. I hadn't seen anything like that section of Baltimore, in my life! No matter! I could have been an astrophysicist, but in this country, I'm still seen, as some "other" and my career, would have been thought of as some "affirmative-action" give away to an "unqualified" person, in the eyes of some whites.

YOU are the person a Barack Obama appeals to, but as the mother of a 46 year old black, educated male, HE IS the dream, Martin Luther King, spoke of and he appeals to ME, too! My children grew up in the 70's and 80's, free of the crap, I grew up with. They grew up in a 2-parent home, where EVERYBODY got up and went to work, EVERY day, because in expensive New Jersey it takes 3 salaries to make it here!

No "schitt", Sherlock! My wonderful Black Parents, gave ME all the privileges THEY never got to enjoy! I in turn, went one better. All 5 of my children have attended and graduated college, with NO help from Uncle Sam or a free ride! Student loans are STILL being paid off and from some mutual funds, I diligently invested in, plus some inheritance money my mother and father left ME! So when I read some of the "schitt" posted here, I KNOW that some of these posters, don't know what it's like for many Blacks, who have aspirations and dreams, like EVERYBODY else!

We are both retired now and enjoy the company of 14 grandchildren and 1 great-grand son, ALL born from marriages! The black stereotype does NOT live here! My husband is a 22 year retired National Guard Sergeant and 37 years in civil service, a 4 year Navy, Viet-Nam veteran. I worked for 40 years, 20 at AT&T and the others with the government. My mother didn't raise any lazy children and we worked for everything we have!

I just can't fathom, some of the racist, bigoted remarks, placed here! You sound like a very nice person and I hope nothing ever changes that! God Bless!

I find the notion that any right-winger has come to this thread attempting to engage in rational and measured discussion about Obama, in any fashion, to be completely hilarious!

Cycloptichorn

Cycloptichorn wrote:

I find the notion that any right-winger has come to this thread attempting to engage in rational and measured discussion about Obama, in any fashion, to be completely hilarious!

Cycloptichorn

So, apparently you havent read all of what has been posted, have you?

Interesting, to me at least, is that the current "hot topics' of the american electorate are the economy and iraq according to (60-70%) in recent polls and yet what I read and hear from the right wing-nut conservatives are "hot topics" of race and religion.
Perhaps the right wing-nuts realize they don't have an any answer to what's concerning the american electorate or they are just trying to change the subject but it doesn't seem to be working.
Perhaps I'm reading the wrong sources.

Ticomaya wrote:

Well, it turns out the company that employs the snoopers is headed by Obama's confidante.

Are you lying or hopelessly uninformed? Only the last Obama breach was perpetrated by the Obama-advisor owned company.

What do you mean "unreported-uninvestigated"? Are you saying this matter was not reported? Are you saying it was not investigated? Are you suggesting the security safeguards that appear to have worked were insufficient? Or are you, yourself, trying to claim some nefarious role by the present administration? What exactly are you trying to claim here?

At this point, there are more questions than answers. Yes, it could turn out to be an innocent breach but, then again, if you look backt to my posts on the matter, there are an awful lot of non-partisans who think something is fishy here.

Interesting, to me at least, is that the current "hot topics' of the american electorate are the economy and iraq according to (60-70%) in recent polls and yet what I read and hear from the right wing-nut conservatives are "hot topics" of race and religion.
Perhaps the right wing-nuts realize they don't have an any answer to what's concerning the american electorate or they are just trying to change the subject but it doesn't seem to be working.
Perhaps I'm reading the wrong sources.