cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Sat 23 Feb, 2008 11:39 am
As my friend in Texas told me, a large turnout will favor Obama. I believe that!
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snood
 
  1  
Sat 23 Feb, 2008 11:49 am
teenyboone wrote:
Cycloptichorn wrote:
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l100/iandavis_06/IMG_0333.jpg

40,000 come out to see Obama in Austin.

40k.

Cycloptichorn


Your photo, says it all! Watching cspan, "The state of Black America"! :wink:


It's called "The State of the Black Union", but I applaud your effort.
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nappyheadedhohoho
 
  1  
Sat 23 Feb, 2008 11:59 am
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georgeob1
 
  1  
Sat 23 Feb, 2008 01:56 pm
Interesting piece by Mark Steyn. However I doubt that any of the Obama supporters here will acknowledge it as anything more than the reactionary manifestation of one of those who somehow still doesn't "get it".
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mysteryman
 
  1  
Sat 23 Feb, 2008 02:18 pm
Re: Many Blacks Worry About Obama's Safety
BumbleBeeBoogie wrote:


And of course we all know that Dallas has a perfect record when it comes to the safety of Presidents and candidates, dont they.
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nappyheadedhohoho
 
  1  
Sat 23 Feb, 2008 02:22 pm
It was mainly a reply to this post -

http://www.able2know.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=3110657&sid=23ee6c9498f7b689eaa7dfb6e61f5055#3110657

I'd read the Stein article a few days ago and remembered the "Right now Obama's more at risk of being taken out by traces of polonium-210 left in his hotel by a Clinton operative than by Roy Rogers saddling up for Jesus" line.

I gave up on the Obama cult a long time ago. They're lost forever.
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Miller
 
  1  
Sat 23 Feb, 2008 02:59 pm
Will the Messiah blow his nose in public, today?
Rolling Eyes
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sozobe
 
  1  
Sat 23 Feb, 2008 03:20 pm
Yikes!:

Quote:
Barack Obama's late night rally here was a cross between a mob scene, a pep rally, a rock concert, and a Paris Hilton stakeout.

The Democratic front-runner appeared at the tiny new office of his campaign's Corpus Christi headquarters tonight to fire up the campaign troops in advance of a morning rally tomorrow. Packed far past capacity, they hardly needed firing up. Several people had to be taken by ambulance after fainting from heat while waiting for him to arrive. Staff, and even a few well-meaning members of the press, formed a distribution line for bottled water to keep casualties to a minimum.

The crowd's long wait was rewarded with a speech that clocked in under five minutes, although the adoring crowd didn't much seem to care. But the chaos really began when Obama ventured outside to greet the hoards of supporters who couldn't make it into the steamy former dance hall that housed the speech. A crowd-turned-paraparazzi, brandishing camera phones of all makes and models, mobbed the candidate as he ambled around behind the building, alarmed staff and Secret Servicemen in tow.

Popping flashbulbs were punctuated with hilariously adoring comments from screaming women. (Example: "Ohmigod Barack! You're my new screensaver!") He even gave an impromptu speech to encourage supporters to vote -- twice -- in the March 4th primary.

But the true Bono moment came as Obama reappeared for a brief moment before finally (to the relief of the Service and the press) climbing into the gray Suburban and calling it a night. He was speaking on his cell phone, and as the crowd began to chant and holler at the mere glimpse of the candidate, he held the phone aloft victoriously.

Whoever was listening on the other end might be convinced that Corpus Christi is Obama Country.

Or at least that Obama is a rock star.





[size=7]Some names and identifying details changed. Guess who? http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/[/size]
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cyphercat
 
  1  
Sat 23 Feb, 2008 03:25 pm
Oh, that was good, Soz... Very Happy
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kickycan
 
  1  
Sat 23 Feb, 2008 04:13 pm
Well, here we go. McCain is attacking him now, and Hillary is taking it up a notch or three today. I just heard her on CNN ripping Obama a new one over his attacks against her health plan. The gloves are off. It's go time. This week should be very interesting.

CINCINNATI (Reuters) - Hillary Clinton slammed rival Barack Obama on Saturday for campaign leaflets on her health-care plan that she called "blatantly false" and accused him of using Republican tactics in their contest for the Democratic U.S. presidential nomination.

"Shame on you, Barack Obama," Clinton said, speaking to reporters after a rally in Ohio, a state that is key to her struggling campaign.

Brandishing a copy of the leaflet, Clinton said the Obama campaign was spreading "false, misleading, discredited information" about her health-care plan.

"Senator Obama knows it is not true that my plan forces people to buy insurance even if they can't afford it," Clinton said. "It is blatantly false and yet he continues to spend millions of dollars perpetuating falsehoods. It is not hopeful. It is destructive, particularly for a Democrat to be discrediting universal health care."

"Let's have a real campaign. Enough with the speeches and big rallies and then using tactics that are right out of Karl Rove's play book," she said, referring to the Republican political strategist behind George W. Bush's winning presidential campaigns.
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cyphercat
 
  1  
Sat 23 Feb, 2008 04:32 pm
It's interesting to me that Hillary is suddenly so pissed about mailers that have been out for I dunno how long now... What, she just heard about 'em now?
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cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Sat 23 Feb, 2008 04:36 pm
It's all about her desperation; she knows she's losing.
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cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Sat 23 Feb, 2008 04:41 pm
What ever happened to "I'm proud to be sitting here with Senator Obama?"
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cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Sat 23 Feb, 2008 04:43 pm
Seems to me that the strongest part of the debate was her last speech, but it now seems like so much toilet paper.
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nimh
 
  1  
Sat 23 Feb, 2008 05:04 pm
georgeob1 wrote:
Interesting piece by Mark Steyn. However I doubt that any of the Obama supporters here will acknowledge it as anything more than the reactionary manifestation of one of those who somehow still doesn't "get it".

No, just as a striking length of text to go on without any specifics, facts or substantive detail. It's all evocative adjectives, partisan swipes, unsubstantiated assertions and sweeping generalisations. Which is really quite ironic, considering that it's supposed to be all about how Obama is lacking in substance. I guess you have no problem in purely rhetorical exercises as long as the red meat it provides is targeted at your part of the electorate.
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nimh
 
  1  
Sat 23 Feb, 2008 05:12 pm
Finn dAbuzz wrote:
nimh wrote:
Finn dAbuzz wrote:


... and regular columnist for the National Review (thats where this piece was from).

Because there is noone as qualified to tell us what remorse or other sentiments liberals are experiencing right now than a NR columnist.


Of course he is. As if I was trying to hide the fact. This is how the print version copies.

In any case it doesn't seem as if Liberals have any problem telling us what conservatives think or feel.

I found it humerous. Perhaps you did not.I'm sure you're not suggesting that this thread should not be polluted with comments from the "other side."

Course not. Just that when it comes to Reading the Hearts and Minds of Liberals Today, the take of an anonymous columnist in the National Review is as much worth as TP.

Or, if you prefer, as much as the nth liberal on the Bush Supporters thread telling you what conservatives really feel, going on nothing but his own opinion and gut feeling. You obviously consider those takes worthless - no reason why the opposite would suddenly be valuable.

But sure, post whatever you want. Just dont blame us for rolling our eyes if it's stuff like this.
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fishin
 
  1  
Sat 23 Feb, 2008 05:20 pm
kickycan wrote:
Well, here we go. McCain is attacking him now, and Hillary is taking it up a notch or three today. I just heard her on CNN ripping Obama a new one over his attacks against her health plan. The gloves are off. It's go time. This week should be very interesting.

CINCINNATI (Reuters) - Hillary Clinton slammed rival Barack Obama on Saturday for campaign leaflets on her health-care plan that she called "blatantly false" and accused him of using Republican tactics in their contest for the Democratic U.S. presidential nomination.

"Shame on you, Barack Obama," Clinton said, speaking to reporters after a rally in Ohio, a state that is key to her struggling campaign.

Brandishing a copy of the leaflet, Clinton said the Obama campaign was spreading "false, misleading, discredited information" about her health-care plan.

"Senator Obama knows it is not true that my plan forces people to buy insurance even if they can't afford it," Clinton said. "It is blatantly false and yet he continues to spend millions of dollars perpetuating falsehoods. It is not hopeful. It is destructive, particularly for a Democrat to be discrediting universal health care."

"Let's have a real campaign. Enough with the speeches and big rallies and then using tactics that are right out of Karl Rove's play book," she said, referring to the Republican political strategist behind George W. Bush's winning presidential campaigns.


I'm a bit befuddled about her complaints about the healthcare flyer. I haven't seen the actual flyer but the local news here reported that the issue was that the flyer mentioned that her health plan would include a mandate that everyone participate.

That is what she's been saying all along and is the major distinction between their plans (which she has pointed out a few times herself). So where's the beef?

Is this a sign that she's at a point of desperation where her "vast right-wing conspiracy" ploy is all she has left?
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nimh
 
  1  
Sat 23 Feb, 2008 05:26 pm
spendius wrote:
I never see any actual voting figures. Just who won and some percentages. How many voters are involved in these primaries?

Pretty much every major news website has a running tally of the votes. See this one of MSNBC. Or on CNN, start browsing here - that's the results for Alabama, but you can see the votes for other states using the dropdown menu. It works the same here on ABC News: that page will give you the results for Missouri, but you can use the dropdown menu to see other states.

All results in actual voting figures, not just percentages.
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FreeDuck
 
  1  
Sat 23 Feb, 2008 05:29 pm
I think it's the same complaint that was made here when the flier first came out (not sure how many pages back) that it's reminiscent of the Harry and Louise ads that came out in the 90s and that it is misleading in that it doesn't note that her plan does actually include measures to bring costs down. But the ad is factually accurate in that she doesn't have any provision in her plan for those who still can't afford it.
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nimh
 
  1  
Sat 23 Feb, 2008 05:30 pm
sozobe wrote:
Yikes!:

Quote:
Barack Obama's late night rally here was a cross between a mob scene, a pep rally, a rock concert, and a Paris Hilton stakeout.

The Democratic front-runner appeared at the tiny new office of his campaign's Corpus Christi headquarters tonight to fire up the campaign troops in advance of a morning rally tomorrow. Packed far past capacity, they hardly needed firing up. Several people had to be taken by ambulance after fainting from heat while waiting for him to arrive. Staff, and even a few well-meaning members of the press, formed a distribution line for bottled water to keep casualties to a minimum.

The crowd's long wait was rewarded with a speech that clocked in under five minutes, although the adoring crowd didn't much seem to care. But the chaos really began when Obama ventured outside to greet the hoards of supporters who couldn't make it into the steamy former dance hall that housed the speech. A crowd-turned-paraparazzi, brandishing camera phones of all makes and models, mobbed the candidate as he ambled around behind the building, alarmed staff and Secret Servicemen in tow.

Popping flashbulbs were punctuated with hilariously adoring comments from screaming women. (Example: "Ohmigod Barack! You're my new screensaver!") He even gave an impromptu speech to encourage supporters to vote -- twice -- in the March 4th primary.

But the true Bono moment came as Obama reappeared for a brief moment before finally (to the relief of the Service and the press) climbing into the gray Suburban and calling it a night. He was speaking on his cell phone, and as the crowd began to chant and holler at the mere glimpse of the candidate, he held the phone aloft victoriously.

Whoever was listening on the other end might be convinced that Corpus Christi is Obama Country.

Or at least that Obama is a rock star.





[size=7]Some names and identifying details changed. Guess who? http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/[/size]


That was very funny, Soz Razz
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