spendius
 
  1  
Fri 22 Feb, 2008 06:47 pm
c.i. wrote-

Quote:
What has she done that no other voter, senator, or spouse of a president in the past 35-years?


Swallowed her pride.
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spendius
 
  1  
Fri 22 Feb, 2008 06:53 pm
Sorry. This thread is a bit fast.

Beefly wrote-

Quote:
This may yet happen if McCain selects Condi Rice as his VP.


He wouldn't actually contemplate doing anything quite as silly as that would he?
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Butrflynet
 
  1  
Fri 22 Feb, 2008 07:21 pm
Spleeeendi, click these...

McCain Can Set Precedent By Picking Rice for Veep


Rice says has no plan to run for VP
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spendius
 
  1  
Fri 22 Feb, 2008 07:37 pm
Do you really think I take any notice of that sort of thing.

The number of things Mr McCain "can" do is not a subject I care to speculate upon in mixed company.
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Butrflynet
 
  1  
Fri 22 Feb, 2008 07:44 pm
You could have fooled me. You even asked the question twice.

Sorry I took it seriously and responded. :wink:
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cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Fri 22 Feb, 2008 07:48 pm
Interesting poll:

http://media.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/polls/postpoll_022108.html?hpid=topnews
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eoe
 
  1  
Fri 22 Feb, 2008 10:16 pm
Re: BBB
Butrflynet wrote:
Her husband has the dubious role of being her biggest asset and her largest piece of baggage. He offers nothing besides his name and that he used to be president and still wants to be. His presence in her campaign reminds people of why he shouldn't be in the same White House with her. Let her distance herself from him and spend the next 8 years out from under his shadow and she'll be a great candidate to vote for.


At this point Butrflynet, I figure, if she was going to kick him to the curb, that would have happened by now, and definitely before her run for the presidency so, to me it looks like it's not ever gonna happen. She needs that ol' dog for reasons we know nothing about. And she's made her choice.

And I wouldn't say that Bill was her only drawback. Not by a long shot. It was Bill who made her interesting even when she wasn't.
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Miller
 
  1  
Sat 23 Feb, 2008 02:31 am
spendius wrote:
Sorry. This thread is a bit fast.

Beefly wrote-

Quote:
This may yet happen if McCain selects Condi Rice as his VP.


He wouldn't actually contemplate doing anything quite as silly as that would he?


Nothing silly about that!
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Miller
 
  1  
Sat 23 Feb, 2008 02:33 am
You may consider Bill to be a curse to Hillary, but time will show that Michelle Robinson Obama will be a big mouthed curse to Obama.

Wait and see.
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mysteryman
 
  1  
Sat 23 Feb, 2008 07:26 am
Another Hillary "attack" on Obama?
This one disguised as information to reporters.

I think this one will really come back to bite her on the ass.


http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=4330128&page=1

Quote:
The Hillary Clinton campaign pushed to reporters today stories about Barack Obama and his ties to former members of a radical domestic terrorist group -- but did not note that as president, Clinton's husband pardoned more than a dozen convicted violent radicals, including a member of the same group mentioned in the Obama stories.
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Miller
 
  1  
Sat 23 Feb, 2008 07:58 am
Is there some reason why Michelle Obama buys her cloths at Sears Budget Basement?

At least Mrs Clinton, from NY of course, knows something about style.

Laughing
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woiyo
 
  1  
Sat 23 Feb, 2008 08:30 am
Miller wrote:
Is there some reason why Michelle Obama buys her cloths at Sears Budget Basement?

At least Mrs Clinton, from NY of course, knows something about style.

Laughing


From NY?? She wouldn't know Central Park from Ozone Park! :wink:
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teenyboone
 
  1  
Sat 23 Feb, 2008 09:59 am
Why aren't there any remarks on Obama's 10-0, wins over Clinton? What, no comments on the McCain, scandal? Bill Clinton, was eaten alive, over the SAME things, the Repugs, have done, all year! Sex scandal, after sex scandal, whether they be boy pages, to female aides, like Gingriches, that he later married, while impeaching Bill Clinton, the hypocrite, to the 2 women in the company of Cheney, when he shot his friend, in the face! Glossed over, huh? Private lives of Repugs, off limits, while it's open season on Dems!

Hillary Clinton, will go down, with the ship, before she concedes and the "acid" barbs, accusing Obama of Plaigerism, while she quotes Edwards and her own husband, word for word on Kieth Olbermann, last night. I don't have a link, but I saw it! "He who lives in glass houses,...." and all that jazz! Cool
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
  1  
Sat 23 Feb, 2008 10:00 am
Many Blacks Worry About Obama's Safety
AP: Published: February 22, 2008 2:20 PM ET
Many Blacks Worry About Obama's Safety

For many black Americans, it's a conversation they find hard to avoid, revisiting old fears in the light of bright new hopes.

They watch with wonder as Barack Obama moves ever closer to becoming America's first black president. And they ask themselves, their family, their friends: Is he at risk? Will he be safe?

There is, of course, no sure answer. But interviews with blacks across the country, prominent and otherwise, suggest that lingering worries are outweighed by enthusiasm and determination.

"You can't have lived through the civil rights movement and know something about the history of African-Americans in this country and not be a little concerned," said Edna Medford, a history professor at Washington's Howard University.

"But African-Americans are more concerned that Obama get the opportunity to do the best he can," she added. "And if he wins, most of us believe the country would do for him what it would do for any president, that he will be as well protected as any of them."

Clyde Barrett, 66, a longtime U.S. Labor Department employee now retired in Tampa, Fla., says he often hears expressions of concern for Obama's safety. One young acquaintance, Barrett said, declared he wouldn't even vote for Obama for fear of exposing him to more danger.

"To me that's a cop-out, where you can't take a stand and support someone because you fear for his safety," Barrett said. "I don't have any apprehension ... We've got to go ahead and persevere."

For many older blacks, the barometer for gauging hopes and fears is the 1968 assassination of the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.

But concern about Obama's safety transcends racial lines. He has white supporters who see him as an inspiring, youthful advocate of change in the mold of Robert F. Kennedy, and they are mindful of Kennedy's assassination just two months after King's.

Pam Hart, the principal of a multiracial elementary school in the Philadelphia suburb of Cheltenham, said she is struck by the contrast between some of the black students there, innocently excited about Obama's candidacy, and the more anxious perspective of older people who lived through the violence of the 1960s.

"My 70-year-old aunt?-every time I call her, she says she's really afraid Obama is going to be assassinated. She is so worried that history will repeat itself," said Hart, who is 40. "I understand why she's afraid, but I feel we live in a different world now."

Bruce Gordon, a New York-based business leader and former president of the NAACP, also feels the climate has changed dramatically?-as evidenced by the strong nationwide support that Obama is receiving from whites as well as blacks.

Gordon felt differently back in the mid-1990s, when Gen. Colin Powell was weighing a run for the presidency, and Powell's wife, Alma, was among those voicing concern about his safety.

"When Powell decided not to run, I said to myself, 'Good,' because I thought someone would kill him," Gordon recalled. "This time, I think that if, out of fear, we keep our most talented people from running for office, it will never happen.

"Yes, there's a risk, but I would never want it to be in the way," Gordon added. "In running, Barack Obama has to accept the fact that he faces a risk. And yes, we pray for him."

Obama received Secret Service protection last May?-the earliest ever for any presidential candidate. At the time, federal officials said they were not aware of any direct threats to Obama, but Illinois Sen. Dick Durbin?-who was among those recommending the Secret Service deployment?-acknowledged receiving information, some with racial overtones, that made him concerned for Obama's safety.

Obama's campaign, invited this week to comment on the concerns felt by many blacks, referred to a speech given by the candidate's wife, Michelle, to a mostly black audience in South Carolina last fall.

"I know people care about Barack and our family. I know people want to protect us and themselves from disappointment," she said, before urging people to cast fear aside.

"If you're willing to heed Coretta Scott King's words and not be afraid of the future ... there's no challenge we can't overcome," she said.

Obama himself, while acknowledging that his family and friends are concerned about his safety, has drawn a contrast with King.

"He didn't have Secret Service protection," Obama told TV host Tavis Smiley last fall. "I can't even comprehend the degree of courage that was required, and look what he did."

Sherry Miles, 45, of Madison Heights, Va., said she's had sobering talks about Obama's safety with her friends and her mother.

"People who want to bring drastic change bring a certain fear among those who don't want change," Miles said. "You look back at our history, and all of the people who tried to bring about change were killed or threatened."

Miles, who works for Virginia's Department of Mental Health, said she was troubled listening to a recent local radio show in which one female caller termed Obama "the devil" and falsely asserted that he was Muslim.

"It's ill-informed people like her who concern me," Miles said. "I'm very pleased that Obama is there, doing so well. But at the same time I'm fearful someone will try to hurt him."

Bryan Monroe, Chicago-based editorial director for Ebony magazine, said the risk faced by Obama "is in the back of people's minds," but that their worries are often superseded by excitement that he could win. Their No. 1 question, Monroe says, "is could this really happen in our lifetime?"

Yvonne Scruggs-Leftwich, a former executive director of the Black Leadership Forum, noted that political leaders of any race face risks in a society where mass shootings and other violence by aggrieved or deranged assailants is all too common.

It is troubling, she said, to acknowledge such dangers at the very moment when Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton are demonstrating the historic opportunities available to blacks and women.

"We cannot be crippled by fear. That's the overwhelming emotion in the African-American community," Scruggs-Leftwich said. "We have to do the American thing: We buckle up and keep going."
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Cycloptichorn
 
  1  
Sat 23 Feb, 2008 10:08 am
teenyboone wrote:
Why aren't there any remarks on Obama's 10-0, wins over Clinton? What, no comments on the McCain, scandal? Bill Clinton, was eaten alive, over the SAME things, the Repugs, have done, all year! Sex scandal, after sex scandal, whether they be boy pages, to female aides, like Gingriches, that he later married, while impeaching Bill Clinton, the hypocrite, to the 2 women in the company of Cheney, when he shot his friend, in the face! Glossed over, huh? Private lives of Repugs, off limits, while it's open season on Dems!

Hillary Clinton, will go down, with the ship, before she concedes and the "acid" barbs, accusing Obama of Plaigerism, while she quotes Edwards and her own husband, word for word on Kieth Olbermann, last night. I don't have a link, but I saw it! "He who lives in glass houses,...." and all that jazz! Cool


Oh, the thread has been filled with haters lately. It's too boring to talk about uninterrupted successes by Obama, I suppose.

Cycloptichorn
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JPB
 
  1  
Sat 23 Feb, 2008 10:15 am
teenyboone wrote:
Why aren't there any remarks on Obama's 10-0, wins over Clinton? What, no comments on the McCain, scandal? Bill Clinton, was eaten alive, over the SAME things, the Repugs, have done, all year! Sex scandal, after sex scandal, whether they be boy pages, to female aides, like Gingriches, that he later married, while impeaching Bill Clinton, the hypocrite, to the 2 women in the company of Cheney, when he shot his friend, in the face! Glossed over, huh? Private lives of Repugs, off limits, while it's open season on Dems!

Hillary Clinton, will go down, with the ship, before she concedes and the "acid" barbs, accusing Obama of Plaigerism, while she quotes Edwards and her own husband, word for word on Kieth Olbermann, last night. I don't have a link, but I saw it! "He who lives in glass houses,...." and all that jazz! Cool


teeny, you're ranting.
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Cycloptichorn
 
  1  
Sat 23 Feb, 2008 10:19 am
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l100/iandavis_06/IMG_0333.jpg

40,000 come out to see Obama in Austin.

40k.

Cycloptichorn
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
  1  
Sat 23 Feb, 2008 10:21 am
Police Concerned About Order to Stop Screening
Police Concerned About Order to Stop Screening
By Jack Douglas Jr.
Ft. Worth Star-Telegram
Thursday 21 February 2008

Dallas - Security details at Barack Obama's rally Wednesday stopped screening people for weapons at the front gates more than an hour before the Democratic presidential candidate took the stage at Reunion Arena.

The order to put down the metal detectors and stop checking purses and laptop bags came as a surprise to several Dallas police officers who said they believed it was a lapse in security.

Dallas Deputy Police Chief T.W. Lawrence, head of the Police Department's homeland security and special operations divisions, said the order - apparently made by the U.S. Secret Service - was meant to speed up the long lines outside and fill the arena's vacant seats before Obama came on.

"Sure," said Lawrence, when asked if he was concerned by the great number of people who had gotten into the building without being checked. But, he added, the turnout of more than 17,000 people seemed to be a "friendly crowd."

The Secret Service did not return a call from the Star-Telegram seeking comment.

Doors opened to the public at 10 a.m., and for the first hour security officers scanned each person who came in and checked their belongings in a process that kept movement of the long lines at a crawl. Then, about 11 a.m., an order came down to allow the people in without being checked.

Several Dallas police officers said it worried them that the arena was packed with people who got in without even a cursory inspection.

They spoke on condition of anonymity because, they said, the order was made by federal officials who were in charge of security at the event.

"How can you not be concerned in this day and age," said one policeman.
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teenyboone
 
  1  
Sat 23 Feb, 2008 10:37 am
JPB wrote:
teenyboone wrote:
Why aren't there any remarks on Obama's 10-0, wins over Clinton? What, no comments on the McCain, scandal? Bill Clinton, was eaten alive, over the SAME things, the Repugs, have done, all year! Sex scandal, after sex scandal, whether they be boy pages, to female aides, like Gingriches, that he later married, while impeaching Bill Clinton, the hypocrite, to the 2 women in the company of Cheney, when he shot his friend, in the face! Glossed over, huh? Private lives of Repugs, off limits, while it's open season on Dems!

Hillary Clinton, will go down, with the ship, before she concedes and the "acid" barbs, accusing Obama of Plaigerism, while she quotes Edwards and her own husband, word for word on Kieth Olbermann, last night. I don't have a link, but I saw it! "He who lives in glass houses,...." and all that jazz! Cool


teeny, you're ranting.


....And Raving, too! Cool
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teenyboone
 
  1  
Sat 23 Feb, 2008 10:39 am
Cycloptichorn wrote:
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l100/iandavis_06/IMG_0333.jpg

40,000 come out to see Obama in Austin.

40k.

Cycloptichorn


Your photo, says it all! Watching cspan, "The state of Black America"! :wink:
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