nimh wrote:Lola wrote:And here we are, at the height of our lives finally at a point where we're in a position to accomplish some of our greatest goals. If you think we're going to sit down and let that opportunity be taken from us by our own children before their time, you are mistaken.
Well, well. If you haven't, unintentionally, unveiled the core emotion and logic, right here, that runs behind Hillary's anger about this young black man daring to challenge her, when it's finally her turn to get what is rightfully hers. I say you've neatly revealed the whole resentful core of this visceral motivation driving the Hillary camp, both candidate and many supporters.
And it sure dont look pretty

It's nothing I haven't said before. And it was quite intentional. I was attempting to shed some light on what is motivating me and what I've read that many of Hillary's supporters have expressed as well. And there's nothing unpretty about it. It's honest and in my opinion justified and I think it probably goes both ways. Please notice, however, that I didn't say anything about a young
black man. I said, "one of my own children" meaning "of a younger generation." And I was speaking specifically of one man in particular, Obama and those who encouraged him to jump into an already very complicated race. You added the "black," why I don't know.
I have been assuming that, while we've been disagreeing in a regrettable tone, that I was among friends. I know I've been rude and I'm hoping that your ridiculing response was provoked by me and that you aren't actually as mean as you sound. So I've decided that I should apologize for losing it. I'm going to try to join into the discussion in a respectful way. I hope everyone else will do the same.
It's unfortunate, in my opinion, that the conflict of choosing between a female and an African American candidate has been placed on our shoulders. For many of us, both have been a priority for most of our lives. I'm not happy about how it came about. I think it could have been avoided had there been serious thought and discussion about possible unintended consequences. I think it was bad judgement and it's hard for me to forgive. It's too bad we couldn't have helped each other have it all. To me it seems evident that one race with two candidates, each from different long mistreated minority groups would evoke powerful and long suppressed emotions that would erupt into war among allies.
But what's done is done and we're left with what to do now.
I'm worried about a huge problem that is emerging for all Democrats. I think if we don't get reasonable about it and approach it as a problem to be solved rather than a battle to be won, we'll end up just like the Republicans, in a self destructive mess.
We're at an impasse. It's a tie anyway you add it up. There's a real possibility that voting in all the remaining primarys will result in the same tie. We can continue to argue about it but none of us really knows how it will come out. And the arguments are only going to make things worse.
If the voting resolves it, then we have less of a problem. But no matter what, there will remain a rift that will not easily be mended. And in addition to that, there's a possibility that it will not resolve and we're going to be left with a Gove v. Bush situation within our own party.
We need to begin thinking about a method that we can agree on that will settle it if it doesn't resolve itself within the next several weeks. No matter what happens, at least half of us will be left feeling cheated and angry. So I think that we should just accept that fact and proceed to solve the problem as agreeably as we can. The discussion has already started within the party. I hope we'll all find a way to participate.