Obama '08?

not so duh... not all but A LOT of people are so swept up in the politics and audacityof hope and all the flowery rhetoric, which btw sounds more like an evangelical preacher daily, they've forgotten that just like his opponents and all those who came before him his main goal is to be president.

"I think we should never be derisive about somebody who has the ability to inspire," Senator McCaskill told David Gregory on MSNBC on Tuesday. "You know, we've had some dark days in this democracy over the last seven years, and today the sun is out. It is shining brightly. I watch these kids, these old and young, these black and white, 20,000 of them, pour into our dome in St. Louis Saturday night, and they feel good about being an American right now. And I think that's something that we have to capture."

of course that's what you believe. You're entitled so please do. Please also feel free to judge everything I say merely bu the way I say it. You're not required to like my tone or my way of expressing myself.

let's don't let this start a dialog between us. You calmly said what you wanted, i calmly responded. That's all that's necessary.

Well, today's the day Obama and the hope for change goes down the tubes. Enjoy, everyone!

The more I think about it the better Texas looks for Obama.

25% African American population for registered Dems there.

1/3 of the state - the rural part - caucuses, that's Obama's bread and butter.

He's made inroads on the latino populations across the country - more money and focus could even him up greatly.

Doesn't seem too bad!

Cycloptichorn

kickycan wrote:

Well, today's the day Obama and the hope for change goes down the tubes. Enjoy, everyone!

Whoops!

Cycloptichorn

Cycloptichorn wrote:

The more I think about it the better Texas looks for Obama.

25% African American population for registered Dems there.

1/3 of the state - the rural part - caucuses, that's Obama's bread and butter.

He's made inroads on the latino populations across the country - more money and focus could even him up greatly.

Doesn't seem too bad!

Cycloptichorn

What do the demographics look like in TX for white women and white men within the party?

Nationally, white women are largely breaking towards Hillary while white men seem to be breaking towards Obama.

Bi-Polar Bear wrote:

of course that's what you believe. You're entitled so please do. Please also feel free to judge everything I say merely bu the way I say it. You're not required to like my tone or my way of expressing myself.

let's don't let this start a dialog between us. You calmly said what you wanted, i calmly responded. That's all that's necessary.

dang, bud - how many people you refusin to talk to, these days?

Perhaps the most telling critique of Obama, to my mind, is his lack of executive experience. (The same can be said for Clinton, of course, if you don't count the First Lady period, when she insists her husband was the president.) I asked him directly last year why a voter should back someone who has never run anything bigger than a legislative office. He responded by pointing to his nascent campaign. He observed out that he was up against the full Clinton establishment, all the chits she and her husband had acquired over the years, and the apparatus they had constructed within the party. He had to build a national campaign from scratch, raise money, staff an extremely complex electoral map, and make key decisions on spending and travel. He asked me to judge his executive skills by observing how he was managing a campaign.
By that standard, who isn't impressed? A first term senator - a black urban liberal - raised more money, and continues to raise much more money, than Senator Clinton. More to the point, the money he has raised has not come from the well-connected fat-cats who do things like donate to the Clinton library. His base is much wider, broader and internet-based than hers. It has many more small donors.

Now look at the strategy he laid out last year, as he explained it to me and others. Iowa was the key. If he didn't win Iowa, it was over. But if he could win Iowa, he would prove the principle that a black man could transcend the racial issue, helping in New Hampshire, and then also helping him peel off what was then majority black support for the Clintons in South Carolina. Then his strategy was meticulous organization - and you saw that in Iowa, as well as yesterday's caucus states. Everything he told me has been followed through. And the attention to detail - from the Alaska caucus to the Nevada cooks - has been striking.

Now consider the psychological and emotional challenges of this campaign. It has been brutal. It has included many highly emotional moments - and occasions when racism and sexism and all sorts of hot-button issues have emerged. Then there was the extraordinary spectacle of a former president and spouse bringing the full weight of ther Democratic establishment and the full prestige to two terms in the White House to dismiss some of Obama's arguments as a "fairy tale" and dismiss him as another Jesse Jackson.

How did the candidates deal with this? The vastly more experienced and nerves-of-steel Clinton clearly went through some wild mood-swings. Obama gave an appearance at least of preternatural coolness under fire, a steady message that others came to mimic, and a level of oratory that still stuns this longtime debater. In the middle of this very hot zone, he exhibit a coolness and steeliness that is a mark of presidential timber. He played tough - but he didn't play nasty. Keeping the high road in a contest like this - without ever playing the race card or the victim card - is an achievement. Building a movement on top of that is more impressive still. So far, he has combined Romney's money with Clinton's organizational skills and Ron Paul's grass-roots enthusiasm. No other campaign has brought so many dimensions into play.

And he won Missouri.

Cycloptichorn wrote:

The more I think about it the better Texas looks for Obama.

25% African American population for registered Dems there.

1/3 of the state - the rural part - caucuses, that's Obama's bread and butter.

He's made inroads on the latino populations across the country - more money and focus could even him up greatly.

Doesn't seem too bad!

Cycloptichorn

What do the demographics look like in TX for white women and white men within the party?

Nationally, white women are largely breaking towards Hillary while white men seem to be breaking towards Obama.

But Mr. Obama said most of that fighting would be done on the ground in the next voting states, not in debates. When asked whether he would accept the invitation from Mrs. Clinton to attend four more debates in the coming weeks, he laughed.

"I don't think anybody is clamoring for more debates," he said. "We've had 18 debates so far. I think we've had 10 more than we've had in the last Democratic contest."

He said he would agree to at least one debate, but noted, "It's very important for me to spend time with voters."