sozobe
 
  1  
Sat 15 Jul, 2006 07:51 am
Right, mine too, and hence "sub-question." (Not an answer, but another layer.)

Off the top of my head, I'd say the the list, from most likely to be elected to least likely, goes something like:

- 2nd generation black Christian (parents from Jamaica or Nigeria or something, but born here).

- American (in the sense of many generations) black Christian.

- Then varieties of Muslim, not sure which would be more or less. (As in, I think the 2nd generation thing would be a liability if parents were from the Middle East, could be better than African-American if parents were from Jamaica and the person converted as a teen, say, etc.)
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SierraSong
 
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Sat 15 Jul, 2006 07:54 am
sozobe wrote:
OK, so here's what I'm wondering at this point...

I think it's safe to say that SierraSong would never, ever, in a million years, vote for Obama because of his positions, regardless of his race or name.


Correct. I don't care if he's purple, he's an ultra-liberal Democrat with whom I disagree politically.

sozobe wrote:
He's not going to get 100% of the vote, period.


Correct. As a matter of fact, given that Illinois is practically an all-Democrat state, shouldn't he have gotten a higher percentage of the vote in '04? Voter-apathy?

sozobe wrote:
What I'm curious about, more than SierraSong, is the more independent and centrist voters who maybe held their nose and voted for Bush mostly because they were voting against Kerry, and who would love to vote FOR someone.


Hmmmm. Kerry's a liberal, anti-war Senator. Obama's a liberal anti-war Senator. Hmmmm.
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blatham
 
  1  
Sat 15 Jul, 2006 07:55 am
soz

Gotcha. I think that has to be close.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Sun 16 Jul, 2006 01:15 pm
The following from today's Chicago Tribune (section 2, page 2; online version) is posted here especially due to the last few sentences:



Quote:
FINE POINT
A look at the week in Washington

Linguist has message for Democrats

By Michael Tackett.


On paper, George Lakoff doesn't seem a likely oracle for the Democratic Party. He's a professor of cognitive linguistics at the University of California, Berkeley. His areas of expertise: the "neural theory of language, conceptual systems, conceptual metaphor, syntax-semantics-pragmatics," among other things.

It's hard to imagine a caricature more ripe for Republican mocking.

http://i1.tinypic.com/206hgk9.jpg

In person, it isn't much better. Bearded, bespectacled and a bit on the portly side, he also in no way lacks confidence in his intellect. A central-casting Cal-Berkeley liberal.

But Lakoff may be on to something.

He makes a very persuasive argument that Democrats have allowed Republicans to hijack words such as "freedom" and "liberty" in fundamental ways that have undercut Democrats' credibility. His latest book, "Whose Freedom? The Battle over America's Most Important Idea," builds on earlier works that urge progressives to stop getting their pockets picked by Republicans over issues in which, he says, progressives actually hold the higher moral ground.

Lakoff contends that Republicans not only have taken ownership of words, they also have skillfully succeeded in framing the debate. That has trapped Democrats into being reactive, implicitly buying into the GOP framework and almost dooming them to failure.

Consider the war in Iraq. Republicans have adroitly labeled Democratic calls for troop pullbacks as "cut and run." So how did Democrats respond? With John Kerry saying that the Bush strategy is "lie and die."

Instead, Lakoff says, Democrats must change the nature of the debate, starting by rejecting the premise that America is in fact at war. The war, he says, ended when President Bush said it did with his "Mission Accomplished" stunt on an aircraft carrier. Now, Democrats should refer to the conflict as an occupation. They should say U.S. troops were not trained to be occupiers and that they were betrayed by administration policy, with the U.S. weakened as a result.

Lakoff makes a similar point about the "war on terror." Terrorism, he says, should be fought in the same way the government went after the Mafia.

Right or wrong, no prominent Democrat has adopted Lakoff's proposed framing. That hasn't stopped him from making the rounds in Washington, urging Democrats to take heed.

He is a one-man army for the counterintuitive. Democrats, he says, are an anti-intellectual party. It is Republicans, he says, who support conservative intellectuals with many think tanks and interest groups to promote a conservative agenda.

Republicans, he adds, actually control the media. They reinforce Bush's positions and use radio, television and the Internet to create an amen chorus before Democrats can even deliver a compelling sermon.

Democrats, he says, need to become framers.

Lakoff says the Democratic message needs to be something like this: Republicans oppress people when they can't eat the fish they catch because of water pollution, when kids get asthma because of bad air, when ranchers can't let cattle drink the water in the streams that run through their land, all because of lax regulation. And don't make the mistake of labeling yourself an environmentalist.

Lakoff likens the GOP orthodoxy as offered by Bush to a "strict father" mentality with a stark and unambiguous view of right and wrong. Democrats offer more a "nurturant parent" who is empathetic and looks at things in context.

Democrats, he says, need to start framing with core convictions and not with calibrations to try to win over converts.

Framing alone won't get it, though. Lakoff recalled a conversation with Richard Wirthlin, the pollster for Ronald Reagan. Wirthlin told him that when he did surveys for Reagan, he found that voters disagreed with Reagan but liked him for the values he projected--authenticity, trust and the ability to connect with voters on a personal level.

And Reagan didn't move to the middle to try to get votes. Rather, his personal traits had a pull for those voters in the middle who were willing to support him almost in spite of his positions.

"Talk to the center the way you talk to your base," Lakoff says.

In Lakoff's view, most of the Democrats being discussed as potential presidential candidates don't have that skill set. Not Hillary Clinton. Not John Kerry. Not John Edwards.

His lone exception: Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.).

"He's amazing," Lakoff says, ticking off Obama's capacity for authenticity, values, trust and connection. "He doesn't just get up there and give a laundry list of programs."

Obama, he says, has an innate understanding of language and framing that the others do not.

Lakoff made a point of saying that he has talked to Obama. We will see if Obama listened.
Michael Tackett is the Tribune's Washington Bureau chief.
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cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Sun 16 Jul, 2006 01:21 pm
Walter, The republicans highjacked more than just the language; they highjacked the democrat's brains; it seems to be lacking in most areas of today's politics.
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sozobe
 
  1  
Sun 16 Jul, 2006 01:30 pm
The man's got it.

(Really interesting article, Walter, thanks. I love cognitive linguistics even without the Obama connection...)
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cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Sun 16 Jul, 2006 01:31 pm
Interesting article from NewsMax:

McCain Miffed at NewsMax Article


A NewsMax.com report about Sen. John McCain's legendary temper has apparently ruffled the feathers of the probable 2008 presidential candidate.

When NewsMax's Ronald Kessler, who authored the report, appeared on Tucker Carlson's MSNBC show on July 7 to discuss the story, Kessler stated, "Carlson said McCain's office was very unhappy that he was having me on."

"I imagine they may have scared off other shows" that might have interviewed Kessler.

In his NewsMax report, Kessler wrote in part: "As portrayed by the mainstream media, McCain is an engaging war hero, a man of political moderation positioned between the left and the right. But to insiders who know him, McCain has an irrational, explosive side that make many of them question whether he is fit to serve as president and be commander in chief."

Kessler quoted former Senator Bob Smith, a New Hampshire Republican who served with McCain on the Senate Armed Services Committee and on Republican policy committees, as saying: "I have witnessed incidents where he has used profanity at colleagues and exploded at colleagues. He would disagree about something and then explode. It was incidents of irrational behavior.

"We've all had incidents where we have gotten angry, but I've never seen anyone act like that."

Kessler's NewsMax.com article also caught the eye of McCain's homestate newspaper, the Arizona Republic.

The paper noted that McCain has denied allegations he blows his top, once demanding "some concrete examples of it," adding "they aren't there."

Well, they are there.

Back in 2000, during McCain's campaign for the Republican nomination for president, he went ballistic during an on-air phone interview with radio personality Michael Reagan. McCain ended up slamming the phone down and hanging up on Reagan.

The two were discussing whom McCain, as president, might appoint to the Supreme Court, and Reagan mentioned that Warren Rudman, McCain's campaign chair, could be in position to push for a judge "like Judge [David] Souter."

McCain interrupted Reagan four times with "can I finish?" and said Rudman was "not interested in playing any active role in a McCain administration and I resent enormously phone calls that were made by Pat Robertson saying that he was a vicious bigot."

When Reagan later tried to shift the discussion to education, McCain said: "Before we go into that, does it disturb you that Pat Robertson would call up people and say that Warren Rudman is a vicious bigot?

NewsMax's transcript of the interview read:

Reagan: No, Senator, I … Senator, no. Senator, because let me tell you…

McCain: Let me tell you - let me tell you … (unintelligible)

(Senator McCain hangs up abruptly.)

Afterwards Reagan declared: "The man does not have the temperament to be president of the United States."

Another on-air display of McCain's wrath came later that year as the candidate was about to deliver his concession speech.

As he walked through the crowd on his way to delivering the speech, NBC's Maria Shriver asked him: "How do you feel?" McCain spun around and sternly told Shriver: "Please get out of here."

The rebuke stunned MSNBC anchor Brian Williams.

When NewsMax Magazine ran an in-depth, front-page story in its August 2005 issue, "Inside McCain's Head," Paul M. Weyrich - chairman and CEO of the Free Congress Research and Education Foundation - told NewsMax:

"For years, I've heard stories about him throwing things at people and bringing young staffers to tears because he blows up at them.

"He has a seething anger that is very troubling. You can't have somebody like that as president. You have to have somebody who is stable and can make good judgments."

Editor's Note:

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okie
 
  1  
Sun 16 Jul, 2006 01:54 pm
I figured that out long time ago, imposter, just by listening to him.
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blatham
 
  1  
Sun 16 Jul, 2006 01:54 pm
This really isn't the right thread for this but I'll pass the following on because it has come up. I'm a big fan of Lakoff's ideas. For those interested in some of this this work, Stanley Fish has a daunting piece here... http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/16/books/review/16fish.html?n=Top%2fFeatures%2fBooks%2fBook%20Reviews
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okie
 
  1  
Sun 16 Jul, 2006 02:01 pm
Its not always about linguistics or spin. Its about honesty. People are not all stupid. To assume Americans are all fooled because one party or the other has hijacked a term is ridiculous. Impressions are not always made not by who claims a term, but how people are perceived based on what they do and what their policies are. Reputations are sometimes earned, people.

Democrats perceive they are losing the religious vote, so they pretend to be religious. Democrats perceive they are losing the veteran vote, so they pretend to patriotic. Democrats perceive they are losing the business vote, so they pretend to help business. The list goes on. Why not run on what you actually are?
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cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Sun 16 Jul, 2006 02:04 pm
okie wrote:
Democrats perceive they are losing the veteran vote, so they pretend to patriotic.


This is about the most pathetic post on a2k.
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Thomas
 
  1  
Sun 16 Jul, 2006 02:13 pm
I'm skeptical of the "winning by re-framing" message too. I admit I can't think of a persuasive counterargument right now. But it just feels like the political equivalent of a "get rich quick" scheme to me.
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okie
 
  1  
Sun 16 Jul, 2006 02:20 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
okie wrote:
Democrats perceive they are losing the veteran vote, so they pretend to patriotic.


This is about the most pathetic post on a2k.


Imposter, tell me that Kerry was not pretending to be patriotic when he drove the boat into Boston and opened his speech with a salute. The salute was awkward because it was pretending. Everybody knew Kerry had no affection for the military, and in fact he accuse his fellow soldiers of widespread atrocities, and I think Kerry still harbors much bitterness in regard to the military. Kerry is typical of some of his fellow Democrats. To be fair, some Republicans pretend to be what they aren't as well, but in general, people are fully aware that many Democrats are not particularly fond of the military.

As I said, imposter, people are not stupid. You cannot pretend to be what you aren't.
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blatham
 
  1  
Sun 16 Jul, 2006 02:31 pm
thomas

I gather you looked at the Fish article. Formidable smarts, that fellow. But I think he's got some of this wrong. First, there's a significant value in merely understanding how language can be used or is being used (his comment on Orwell's famous essay stood out...I'm not sure who else might agree with him). Second, Lakoff (at least) doesn't advocate reframing language simply for the sake of some strategy disconnected from principle, but rather establishing language and argument out of principles.

I don't think we'd say that the football coach for America or Germany would be doing a useless thing if he focused on what Italy or France did right in their world cup play. It wouldn't be some species of 'defeatism' to show his players video tape of the successful teams' play.

His final conclusion, that the book reviewed presents no real direction or prospect that might be helpful, was even moreso the case with his review. Of course, he was merely writing a review but good writers/analysts often throw in a "for instance" to further clarify or make their case.
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nimh
 
  1  
Sun 16 Jul, 2006 02:36 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
Interesting article from NewsMax:

What a nonsensical article. Its mostly just smearing. As in: playing up a minor incident or two, using all kinds of emotive labels to describe them, and adding a bunch of anonymous descriptions about the man's character - in order to conjure up some wild image of out-of-control temper tantrums.

We've seen this kind of thing before, we'll see it before. Never any substantive points (it's all about character), few sourced, concrete examples, and lots of incestuous doubling up of roles.

Eg:

Quote:
When NewsMax's Ronald Kessler, who authored the report, appeared on Tucker Carlson's MSNBC show on July 7 to discuss the story, Kessler stated, "Carlson said McCain's office was very unhappy that he was having me on."

"I imagine they may have scared off other shows" that might have interviewed Kessler.

Note: no actual evidence of McCain's office pressuring anyone to not have Kessler on. Only Kessler himself claiming that McCains office was upset, and that they might well have...

Well, yeah, who knows. But I'd say this reeks mostly of Kessler being self-important, playing up his own influence/reputation.

Quote:
Back in 2000, during McCain's campaign for the Republican nomination for president, he went ballistic during an on-air phone interview with radio personality Michael Reagan. McCain ended up slamming the phone down and hanging up on Reagan.

"Went ballistic", is the emotive charge here (someone who "goes ballistic" is obviously someone you dont want to have with his finger on the nuclear button).

And why? Because McCain "interrupted Reagan four times with "can I finish?"", and "hangs up abruptly" on the talk radio show host.

Note - Reagan is the kind of "radio personality" who called for Howard Dean to "be hung for treason". On NewsMax, to be exact.

Well, good for McCain, I say. I wish more politicians would take their job seriously enough to just hang up on those professional baiters.

Also note, btw, that Reagan, like Kessler, is a contributor to NewsMax. So what we have here is NewsMax claiming that McCain is out of control - and as its main witnesses, bringing two of its own contributors. An incestuous as well as self-serving smear attempt, thus.

Quote:
Another on-air display of McCain's wrath came later that year as the candidate was about to deliver his concession speech.

As he walked through the crowd on his way to delivering the speech, NBC's Maria Shriver asked him: "How do you feel?" McCain spun around and sternly told Shriver: "Please get out of here."

"McCain's wrath" - another emotive charge. "Wrath" - thats, like, Cain and Abel. What actually happened? He told a journalist, "please get out of here", when she badgered him on his way to his painful concession speech.

I mean, please. Would "please get out of here" count as evidence of "wrath" and "going ballistic" if it were Bush saying it, too, in NewsMax's world?

I'd tell the NewsMax reporter here to get a sense of perspective, except, of course, the whole point of the article is to distort the perspective. It's Kessler's own company claiming that when Kessler claimed McCain gets angrily easily, he was right. The article's self-serving character is merely underlined by its obvious struggle to gather crumbles of supporting evidence from the past 6 years, with them coming up with:

- McCain hanging up on a talkshow host,
- McCain telling a reporter to "get out of here",
- one of many Republican Congressmen (among whom McCain aint none too popular, after too many dissenting opinions) making broad-sweep characterisations of his character based on nothing more concrete an example than that he "used profanities",
- and lots of anonymous claims that McCain can be unnice to his staff.

Change the name McCain in this article by "George W. Bush" and you've got the boilerplate stuff we've seen about GWB's "temper" -- which the same NewsMax would laugh away.

So much shitty journalism in this hyperpartisan world.
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nimh
 
  1  
Sun 16 Jul, 2006 02:42 pm
I'll add though that both c.i.'s post and my reaction are completely off topic, and that we should discuss McCain and other Republican candidates on another thread, this one for example: A first(?) thread on 2008: McCain,Giuliani & the Republicans
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cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Sun 16 Jul, 2006 03:56 pm
okie wrote:
Imposter, tell me that Kerry was not pretending to be patriotic when he drove the boat into Boston and opened his speech with a salute.

But nothing will beat Bush when he flew onto that aircraft carrier with his flight jacket on with the big sign in the background "MISSION ACCOMPLSIHED." Bush is the guy that went AWOL.You're too funny!
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Finn dAbuzz
 
  1  
Sun 16 Jul, 2006 04:04 pm
Walter Hinteler wrote:
The following from today's Chicago Tribune (section 2, page 2; online version) is posted here especially due to the last few sentences:

This is an interesting article, and Lakoff (gosh, he must have taken a lot of ribbing as a kid) has some interesting and some foolish things to say.

Quote:
FINE POINT
A look at the week in Washington

Linguist has message for Democrats

By Michael Tackett.


On paper, George Lakoff doesn't seem a likely oracle for the Democratic Party. He's a professor of cognitive linguistics at the University of California, Berkeley. His areas of expertise: the "neural theory of language, conceptual systems, conceptual metaphor, syntax-semantics-pragmatics," among other things.

What does a likely oracle for the Democratic Party look like?

Let's see...liberal academic in the field of linguistics? Nope. Nobody like that would ever be held in high esteem by Democrats.


It's hard to imagine a caricature more ripe for Republican mocking.

I can imagine a half dozen much more ripe for mocking. The Berkley connection is pretty automatic, but there's nothing stereotypically liberal about a linguistics scholar. Seems to me that Tackett himself hasn't bothered to listen to the good doctor, and can't help but insinuate that Republicans are anti-intellectual.

http://i1.tinypic.com/206hgk9.jpg

In person, it isn't much better. Bearded, bespectacled and a bit on the portly side, (Sounds like a description of Robert Bork) he also in no way lacks confidence in his intellect. A central-casting Cal-Berkeley liberal. I should think there are thousands of Cal-Berkeley liberals who would take umbrage with this.

But Lakoff may be on to something.

He makes a very persuasive argument that Democrats have allowed Republicans to hijack words such as "freedom" and "liberty" in fundamental ways that have undercut Democrats' credibility.

Use of the word "hijack" implies that words like "freedom" and "liberty" were once the property of Democrats. This is a foolish thing to assert. A more accurate assessment (and one which manages to resist a cheap shot at Republicans) would be that the GOP has effectively identified itself with the terms and, to a lesser extent, been able to suggest to the public conciousness that for Democrats, concepts like "freedom" and "liberty" are not priorities on their agenda.

His latest book, "Whose Freedom? The Battle over America's Most Important Idea," builds on earlier works that urge progressives to stop getting their pockets picked by Republicans over issues in which, he says, progressives actually hold the higher moral ground.

Once again the thievery metaphor. Perhaps if Democrats made more effort to identify themselves with positive terms and concepts than they do in trying to identify Republicans with negative ones, they would be more successful politically. Clearly Republicans have tried, and successfully, to associate Democrats with negative terms and concepts, but it is equally clear that they have worked on their own positive public identity as well. The Democrats have not, which is simply another way of saying that they have criticisms but no solutions, condemnations but no ideas.

Lakoff contends that Republicans not only have taken ownership of words, they also have skillfully succeeded in framing the debate. That has trapped Democrats into being reactive, implicitly buying into the GOP framework and almost dooming them to failure.

I'm not sure what this says about Democrats. We can understand that a mouse might not be able to recognize the huge and ominous contraption surrounding that piece of tempting cheese, but we expect reasonably intelligent human beings to be better able to recognize traps, particularly after they have been repeatedly caught by them.

Consider the war in Iraq. Republicans have adroitly labeled Democratic calls for troop pullbacks as "cut and run." So how did Democrats respond? With John Kerry saying that the Bush strategy is "lie and die."

Good example.

Instead, Lakoff says, Democrats must change the nature of the debate, starting by rejecting the premise that America is in fact at war. The war, he says, ended when President Bush said it did with his "Mission Accomplished" stunt on an aircraft carrier. Now, Democrats should refer to the conflict as an occupation. They should say U.S. troops were not trained to be occupiers and that they were betrayed by administration policy, with the U.S. weakened as a result.

What Lakoff fails to recognize is that Democrats have attempted to change the nature of the debate on the war - they just haven't been effective at it. In fact I believe they have even tried some version of the template he suggests: Frame the war as something incompatible with heroics and even tainted with the connotation of the "bad guys" -- Occupation, but carefully avoid framing the soliders as Occupiers, instead framing them as victims of the Administration's perfidy.

It hasn't worked. Whether this is because the template is inherently flawed or the Democrats applying it are just not rhetorically skilled enough is a matter of opinion.

It isn't all about the way an issue is framed.

Certainly effective communication of a position is helpful in persuading people to support it, but the position must, to a large extent, speak for itself. Republicans have not been more successful than Democrats simply because they have been more linguistically crafty.


Lakoff makes a similar point about the "war on terror." Terrorism, he says, should be fought in the same way the government went after the Mafia.

Right or wrong, no prominent Democrat has adopted Lakoff's proposed framing. That hasn't stopped him from making the rounds in Washington, urging Democrats to take heed.

Lakoff's point that our national response to terrorism should be framed in terms of criminal prosecution instread of war is a new idea? Where have Lakoff and Tackett been the past few years? Didn't John Kerry make this very argument without success?

He is a one-man army for the counterintuitive. Democrats, he says, are an anti-intellectual party. It is Republicans, he says, who support conservative intellectuals with many think tanks and interest groups to promote a conservative agenda.

I knew something he said was interesting. I don't know that I would go so far as to say Democrats are anti-intellectual, but he is correct about Republicans.

Republicans, he adds, actually control the media. They reinforce Bush's positions and use radio, television and the Internet to create an amen chorus before Democrats can even deliver a compelling sermon.

If he actually argues that Republicans control the media, add anther one to the foolish column. Both parties attempt to get their talking points broadcast to the public. Each have media outlets that lean in their direction or are virtual arms of the parties. One party may be better at it than the other, but this is a matter of execution, not concept.
Democrats, he says, need to become framers.

Lakoff says the Democratic message needs to be something like this: Republicans oppress people when they can't eat the fish they catch because of water pollution, when kids get asthma because of bad air, when ranchers can't let cattle drink the water in the streams that run through their land, all because of lax regulation. And don't make the mistake of labeling yourself an environmentalist.

Democrats need to be more effective at framing the issues, but they can only be as good as their material. Attempting to frame the environmental issue as one of Republicans oppressing people is ridiculous and would fail first step out of the box.

Lakoff likens the GOP orthodoxy as offered by Bush to a "strict father" mentality with a stark and unambiguous view of right and wrong. Democrats offer more a "nurturant parent" who is empathetic and looks at things in context.

To some extent this is an accurate representation of the competing ideologies, but hardly unique. Having established the contrast, now what?
Does Lakoff or Tackett (I have a feeling that Lakoff's ideas may be suffering from the telling of Tackett) mean to suggest that one approach is so far superior to the other that merely delineating it will do the trick?

To some extent Lakoff's notions are a product of the post-modern regard for context. Since there are virtually unlimited permutations of the context in which actions can be viewed it is impossible to rely on absolutes like right or wrong. Taken to its logical extension, this regard for context means that neither Republican nor Democratic core convictions can be right or wrong, and so it really comes down to how well the position plays in Peoria on any given day, and during the last while, Republicans have been better in selling their particular message than have the Democrats. I'm afraid I can't buy that.


Democrats, he says, need to start framing with core convictions and not with calibrations to try to win over converts.

This is an interesting statement, but I don't understand it. Can you help out Walter?

Framing alone won't get it, though. Lakoff recalled a conversation with Richard Wirthlin, the pollster for Ronald Reagan. Wirthlin told him that when he did surveys for Reagan, he found that voters disagreed with Reagan but liked him for the values he projected--authenticity, trust and the ability to connect with voters on a personal level.

And Reagan didn't move to the middle to try to get votes. Rather, his personal traits had a pull for those voters in the middle who were willing to support him almost in spite of his positions.

"Talk to the center the way you talk to your base," Lakoff says.

In Lakoff's view, most of the Democrats being discussed as potential presidential candidates don't have that skill set. Not Hillary Clinton. Not John Kerry. Not John Edwards.

His lone exception: Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.).

"He's amazing," Lakoff says, ticking off Obama's capacity for authenticity, values, trust and connection. "He doesn't just get up there and give a laundry list of programs."

Obama, he says, has an innate understanding of language and framing that the others do not.

Wow, now there's a revolutionary concept that few political scientists have dared to broach - Charisma! I guess it took a linguistics professor to identify the fact that charisma has a lot to do with communication skills. I'm sure no one ever thought of that before.

Lakoff made a point of saying that he has talked to Obama. We will see if Obama listened.

I don't know how we will unless we start hearing Obama speak of environmental issues in terms of Republican oppression. I can't find anything in this article that the Democrats (including Obama) haven't known or thought for sometime.

I will acknowledge though that Obama has charisma and excellent communication skills, and agree with Lakoff that he has them in abundance over Clinton, Kerry, and Edwards. He hasn't made the mark in DC that I expected when he broke onto the national scene in 2004, but it's still very early, and he seems to be a man of reserve rather than impulse. I'm looking forward to seeing him blossom.
Michael Tackett is the Tribune's Washington Bureau chief.
[email protected]
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cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Sun 16 Jul, 2006 04:12 pm
nimh, Glad to see you've analyzed the article so well. I have no personal comment on it, except to say I may still vote for McCain if he runs.

Sorry for the side-track.
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SierraSong
 
  1  
Sun 16 Jul, 2006 04:38 pm
okie wrote:
Its not always about linguistics or spin. Its about honesty. People are not all stupid. To assume Americans are all fooled because one party or the other has hijacked a term is ridiculous. Impressions are not always made not by who claims a term, but how people are perceived based on what they do and what their policies are. Reputations are sometimes earned, people.

Democrats perceive they are losing the religious vote, so they pretend to be religious. Democrats perceive they are losing the veteran vote, so they pretend to patriotic. Democrats perceive they are losing the business vote, so they pretend to help business. The list goes on. Why not run on what you actually are?


Yep. I have always said about the Dems, how can you go through life, waking up each morning and not knowing who you are going to be that day?

I guess they can always *hire* someone to tell them. Heh.
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