Obama '08?

nimh wrote:

I'm now listening to Hillary - man, does she go on. And this weird sudden to and fro between the softly encouraging/chiding voice of a school matron and the loud combative soapbox shouting. Odd. Kind of grating, and so ... fake-sounding. To me, anyhow.

To be fair, she's now doing the Q&A thing, and she's a lot better at that! She really seems to be enjoying it, too, and it's sort of infectious - she's doing very well. Thats what helped her win NH too, of course - just going through endless Q&As at every townhall meeting, making sure to answer pretty much every single last question.

nimh wrote:

I'm now listening to Hillary - man, does she go on. And this weird sudden to and fro between the softly encouraging/chiding voice of a school matron and the loud combative soapbox shouting. Odd. Kind of grating, and so ... fake-sounding. To me, anyhow.

To be fair, she's now doing the Q&A thing, and she's a lot better at that! She really seems to be enjoying it, too, and it's sort of infectious - she's doing very well. Thats what helped her win NH too, of course - just going through endless Q&As at every townhall meeting, making sure to answer pretty much every single last question.

congratulations to Obama... savor the flavor dude... it won't happen much more.

Quite a win! Congrats, guys.

Obama's speech was typically wonderful. It's such a treat to have an orator with his level of gift. Particularly following upon this last twit who needs soldiers or flags or aircraft carriers or faux cowboy agitprop to substitute for a soul, a backbone and a brain.

God, this is an interesting election.

Bi-Polar Bear wrote:

congratulations to Obama... savor the flavor dude... it won't happen much more.

It's almost mathematically impossible at this point for any Dem to win before August - so you'd better get used to seeing Obama

Cycloptichorn

Cycloptichorn wrote:

Bi-Polar Bear wrote:

congratulations to Obama... savor the flavor dude... it won't happen much more.

It's almost mathematically impossible at this point for any Dem to win before August - so you'd better get used to seeing Obama

Cycloptichorn

doesn't change the facts... :wink:

face?

nimh wrote:

To be fair, she's now doing the Q&A thing, and she's a lot better at that! She really seems to be enjoying it, too, and it's sort of infectious - she's doing very well. Thats what helped her win NH too, of course - just going through endless Q&As at every townhall meeting, making sure to answer pretty much every single last question.

What station are you watching?

Winning Large

by digby


Congratulations to Senator Obama! He has won South Carolina in a landslide and with 24% of white voters to boot. I think that should put to rest the idea that he has somehow become the "black" candidate and can't compete. The Democrats aren't going to win South Carolina in the general --- it's the most conservative state in the country -- so this showing is meaningful.

It looks like Clinton came in far behind, although CNN is reporting that about 34% of her coalition was African American, which is a small bit of good news for her. Edwards' voters were, perhaps unsurprisingly, nearly all white, with the majority being white males. (This is South Carolina, after all.)

So, this ugly race is over and it looks like all the racial talk was overblown and overplayed. The voters, once again, made their voices heard and the politicians will have to heed them.

I would hope that the media will take a little breather as well. Watching the concern trolling about Democratic racial divisiveness among people like Peggy Noonan, Joe Scarborough and Bill Bennett is enough to make me sick and should give progressives pause. As I wrote last night, I don't think this helps Senator Obama any more than it helps Clinton.

It would be really nice if the media, both liberal and otherwise, would calm the hell down. They've been out of their minds since Iowa with the identity politics, pushing both the gender and the racial angles beyond all measure. But the fact is that this is much more complicated than they are letting on with lots of demographic information that they are ignoring. Obama, for instance, once again did extremely well among young people of all races, which it seems to me is much more salient than the media have yet to acknowledge. If he keeps this up, we will see an entire generation making its home in the Democratic Party and that is a tremendous advantage.

This is a great win for Barack Obama, and I'm genuinely thrilled that he was able to win a bi-racial majority in a three person field. It's a nice bounce going into Super Tuesday, where, hopefully it will be so complicated for the press that they will actually be forced to report on the campaign instead of pontificating at length about things that are going to screw us in November no matter who ultimately wins.

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So, this ugly race is over and it looks like all the racial talk was overblown and overplayed. The voters, once again, made their voices heard and the politicians will have to heed them.

blatham wrote:

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So, this ugly race is over and it looks like all the racial talk was overblown and overplayed. The voters, once again, made their voices heard and the politicians will have to heed them.

Why post this meaningless dribble? I don't want the election to be about identity politics any more than the next guy, but how does SC demonstrate that it isn't? The black guy got 24% of the white vote and 80% of the black vote... and we're supposed to use that as proof that race isn't where it's at? Again, I'm not suggesting it is outside of SC, but this Digby fool seems to think he's proven something. 55% for a black man is encouraging, and something we can all be proud of... but I wonder if Digby realizes what percentage of these voters were black.

Probably she does; when Jesse Jackson won in SC, he got somewhere around 5% of the vote in what is a very Republican state.

Cycloptichorn

Cycloptichorn wrote:

Probably she does; when Jesse Jackson won in SC, he got somewhere around 5% of the vote in what is a very Republican state.

Cycloptichorn

So what? I'd be surprised if Jesse Jackson got 5% today.

According to CNN's exit poll, he won a majority of non-black votes in the 18-29-year-old demographic, and a quarter of non-black votes in two other demographic age groups. Hillary didn't win pluralities among non-black age demographics; Edwards actually did better than Hillary did in these categories.

That's a lot of cross-racial appeal in a place where there hasn't been much of that in the past.