@Renaldo Dubois,
Renaldo Dubois wrote:
Good. Don't ask again. Hold your breath. Maybe that will work. I don't jump when lefties tell me to.
Apparently, you don't do that OR address major inconsistencies with your position.
I'm forced to conclude that you believe you have the right to insult, but others do not. I have a difficult time understanding how you can logically square this with your earlier criticisms of me. But I doubt such things really bother you at the end of the day.
Quote: Anything else? You may now begin to insult and demean in clear conscience. We know you want to.
What do I gain by insulting you? There's no sport in it. You're the lowest class of political dilletante here on A2k: the Loudmouthed Opinion Holder. Angrily discussing the problems in America, never providing any real knowledge of any situation or any solution at all. I generally save my ammo for true challenges.
Quote:You can also stop with the "holier than thou" crap. We all witnessed how your union workers insulted, demeaned, harrassed and intimidated good hard working everyday people. You and you leftist union thugs are not good Americans.
You're allowed to have whatever opinion you like, but without providing supporting argumentation, you just come off sounding like a fool. We get plenty of folks who come on here to do nothing more than repeat right-wing talking points, or whatever Drudge or Rush or Fox had to say today. It's exceedingly boring, and what more - it isn't convincing to anyone here.
At the end of the day, that last point is the most important thing, and why I don't bother doing any more than toying with guys like you - nobody cares about the **** you spout, nobody's mind is changed by it, and you will ever fail to step up to the plate when actually questioned on your claims. This, in my experience, leads to a poster who is quickly marginalized and ridiculed by others here - not one who is an opinion driver or trusted voice on anything.
Cycloptichorn
@Renaldo Dubois,
Quote:We are being dumbed down.
That becomes more and more apparent with each new Renaldo posting.
@Renaldo Dubois,
Renaldo Dubois wrote:
We are being dumbed down.
That and inbreeding becomes more and more apparent with each and every new posting by JTT and Cyclotroll.
@H2O MAN,
Quote:Renaldo Dubois wrote:
We are being dumbed down.
Impossible in your case, h2oman.
@Cycloptichorn,
Quote:The truth is that the American government has been incredibly successful at maintaining the integrity of our nation and the continuation of our year-to-year operations. More so than any other government in the world, in fact.
This is the kind of blinkered view that is so American. It is regularly spewed with little regard to facts. What do you mean by 'integrity', Cy?
"the quality of always behaving according to the moral principles that you believe in, so that people respect and trust you more..."
If it's this, then it's bullshit you're shoveling.
"the quality of behaving according to the rules and standards of morality"
then the pile is getting higher.
Maybe,
"the quality of being in a good condition, without any damage or mistakes"
nope, more frantic shoveling, much greater odor.
And "more so than any other government in the world", please; now you've brought out the real heavy equipment.
@JTT,
The heap is very high and getting higher. When our government commits to using military arsenal on a sovereign country like Libya with all its attendant costs while our country's citizens are suffering from joblessness, cutting of social services, and drying up the well, it makes one wonder how far people will remain blind to the misdeeds of our government(s).
The shits been smelling for decades, but people have become accustomed to the stench. It's no wonder our country is going downhill at such a fast pace.
Obama will be speaking in about an hour (7:30 pm ET) for a projected 30 minutes.
It seems to me that he will have to explain...
> No fly zones vs
> Attacking Libyan ground forces
> Nato vs UN authority for what is happening
> An exit strategy for foreign forces and
> A vision for what might happen if the rebels succeed.
See yall hear for thoughts as he talks.
@H2O MAN,
They always do. Using "For The Children" isn't going to work anymore.
@JTT,
Quote:This is the kind of blinkered view that is so American. It is regularly spewed with little regard to facts. What do you mean by 'integrity', Cy?
I mean that our nation has remained a contiguous one, with one form of government, successful and redundant. And our government has not only been around longer than any other standing government existing today, it has become the model for much of the rest of the world.
The rest of your indignant **** is boring, but you knew that before you wrote it, didn't you?
Cycloptichorn
@Cycloptichorn,
Yes, I have the right to insult but others do not. I'm special. I can have a double standard if I want one. I'm as good as you are. I'm as special as you are. We all watched the hate and the insults from the teachers and their thugs. We've read the memo from MediaMatters about sabotage and purposeful lies. Where do you and your slimy sleazy friends get off thinking we are going to let you have a double standard and we can't? You must have water on your brain in you think that. This is a culture war and we're taking our culture back. We're sick and tired of you pissants ******* things up and robbing us.
And as far as "toying" with me. The only think you toy with is your limp dipstick.
@Renaldo Dubois,
Renaldo Dubois wrote:
Yes, I have the right to insult but others do not. I'm special. I can have a double standard if I want one. I'm as good as you are.
Wait a minute - if you're 'as good as I am,' doesn't that mean that we both enjoy the same rights? And that you're not special?
Quote: I'm as special as you are.
Oh, so we're both special. Gotcha. But if that's the case, why are you allowed to insult - but I'm not? I still don't follow your reasoning, and I use that word loosely.
Quote:We all watched the hate and the insults from the teachers and their thugs.
What are you referring to? I didn't watch any such thing at all. Perhaps you could be more specific.
Quote:We've read the memo from MediaMatters about sabotage and purposeful lies. Where do you and your slimy sleazy friends get off thinking we are going to let you have a double standard and we can't?
What double standard? I never claimed that you couldn't do anything at all; it was you who in one breath decried insults from the left, and stated 'you want to insult me,' and in the next turned around and threw a bunch of insults at me yourself. If anyone is proposing a double standard here, it is yourself, sir.
My position is that anyone can insult anyone they like on A2K. Yay freedom!
Quote:You must have water on your brain in you think that.
But, I don't think that a double standard exists; you do. Does that mean that YOU must have water on the brain?
Quote:This is a culture war and we're taking our culture back. We're sick and tired of you pissants ******* things up and robbing us.
If I keep stringing you along, will you keep resorting to more and more bluster?

Let's find out!
What 'culture' are you taking back, anyway? This statement is so vague as to be meaningless. Who stole anything from you at all? What freedoms of yours have been taken away? How do you justify 'taking our culture back,' but on the other hand, saying that 'my side' is 'robbing' yours? You seem to be advocating robbing yourself.
As I said earlier - guys like you are a dime a dozen on internet discussion boards, and if you think anyone gives a **** about your breathless indignation you're kidding yourself. The minute you want to talk about an actual issue or discuss anything in any depth - let me know. Until then you're just an ignorant asshole who somehow figured out how to use a computer, and get his AOL account hooked up.
If that's not true - if you think you're someone who can discuss policies and politics in depth, instead of just making stupid emotional comments - show us. Write something worth reading. I personally doubt you have what it takes to do so.
Cycloptichorn
@Cycloptichorn,
I never said you couldn't insult. Where did I say that? Show us.
There's nothing to talk about. We won. Now sit back and enjoy it like your pissant president wanted us to do when you passed the HCB.
@Renaldo Dubois,
Renaldo Dubois wrote:
You don't get that. And because you don't get it, you feel you have the right to insult, degrade, intimidate, coerce and lie for your agenda. We are fed up with trash like you.
On one hand damning me for insulting and intimidating - along with coercing and lying, though you never say who I'm coercing or who I'm lying to - on the other hand, calling me and those who believe what I do 'trash.' You obviously believe YOU have the right to insult and attempt to intimidate - but I don't.
Or perhaps you can make your little rant a little clearer, if that's not what you meant.
Just to repeat what I said above: you don't have what it takes, Renaldo. Do you?
Quote:There's nothing to talk about. We won. Now sit back and enjoy it like your pissant president wanted us to do when you passed the HCB.

You won a majority in one half of one third of the government. And you can now see all the good it's doing you. At the same time, you have no presidential candidate - and you know I'm right, so don't even bother denying it - so nothing that your crew is doing stands much of a chance of becoming law, and the odds of repealing anything Obama has done are basically zero.
Great victory you have there. How's that working out for ya so far?
Regarding the Health Care bill, the big diff is: the Dems had the numbers to pass and sign the bill. You have nothing remotely similar. So yeah - enjoy that health care law, because it isn't going anywhere. And once again - you know that's true.
Cycloptichorn
@Cycloptichorn,
Those you support. You support the union thugs and the insulting teachers in Wisconsin. Right?
And now we have the votes to stop your pals in Wisonsin and in a year and a half we will stop Obama and reclaim the senate. Your side just had their collective asses handed to them. And your slimy HCB is going down also. Now WE have the votes. You and your pals think you can insult the American taxpayer and get away with it? Not anymore. Your arrogant collectives asses are getting kicked and will continue to get kicked until your whimpers and cries have turned silent and America returns to its greatness.
@Renaldo Dubois,
Renaldo Dubois wrote:
Those you support. You support the union thugs and the insulting teachers in Wisconsin. Right?
I don't know what you are trying to say here. Your first sentence is a fragment of a thought and the second isn't connected to anything I wrote in the post you quoted.
Perhaps you could be a bit clearer?
Cycloptichorn
POLITICAL CONTRIBUTIONS TO DEMOCRATS AND TO REPUBLICANS BY:
American Fed. of State, County, & Municipal Employees
Democrats $40,281,900
Republicans $547,700
Intel Brotherhood of Electrical Workers
Democrats: 29,705,600
Republicans: 679,000
National Education Association
Democrats 27,679,300
Republicans 2,005,200
Service Employees International Union
Democrats 26,368,470
Republicans 98,700
Communication Workers of America
Democrats 26,305,500
Republicans 125,300
Service Employees International Union
Democrats 26,252,000
Republicans 1,086,200
Laborers Union
Democrats 25,734,000
Republicans 2,138,000
American Federation of Teachers
Democrats 25,682,800
Republicans 200,000
United Auto Workers
Democrats 25,082,200
Republicans 182,700
Teamsters Union
Democrats 24,926,400
Republicans 1,822,000
Carpenters and Joiners Union
Democrats 24,094,100
Republicans 2,658,000
Machinists & Aerospace Workers Union
Democrats 23,875,600
Republicans 226,300
United Food and Commercial Workers Union
Democrats 23,182,000
Republicans 334,200
AFL-CIO
Democrats 17,124,300
Republicans 713,500
Sheet Metal Workers Union
Democrats 16,347,200
Republicans 342,800
Plumbers & Pipefitters Union
Democrats 14,790,000
Republicans 818,500
Operating Engineers Union
Democrats 13,840,000
Republicans 2,309,500
Airline Pilots Association
Democrats 12,806,600
Republicans 2,398,300
International Association of Firefighters
Democrats 12,421,700
Republicans 2,685,400
United Transportation Workers
Democrats 11,807,000
Republicans 1,459,300
Ironworkers Union
Democrats 11,638,900
Republicans 936,000
American Postal Workers Union
11,633,100
544,300
Nat'l Active & Retired Fed. Employees Association
Democrats 8,135,400
Republicans 2,294,600
Seafarers International Union
Democrats 6,726,800
Republicans 1,281,300
TOTAL CONTRIBUTIONS TO Democrats $486,440,870
TOTAL CONTRIBUTIONS TO Republicans $27,886,800
Source: Center for Responsive Politics, Washington, D.C.
Obama: "After consulting members of Congress, we established a response..."
Hmm.
The Speechifier in Chief is speechifying to us. Anyone listening? Just words.