ican711nm
 
  -1  
Thu 23 Dec, 2010 02:39 pm
Cyclopt and Cicerone,
I did not compose this link to Soros' TV interview.

This is a link to George Soros's TV interview wherein he stated his objective regarding a new world order.

The link states:
Quote:
george-soros-plot-to-create-a-new-world-order-through-the-destruction-of-the-us-economy
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Thu 23 Dec, 2010 02:41 pm
@ican711nm,
That's where your brain loses any semblance of rational thinking. One man cannot destroy the US economy. Soros is an old man ready for the grave. How effective do you think he really is in destroying the US economy?

Tell us how Soros is going to destroy the US economy; you ignoramus?
ican711nm
 
  -2  
Thu 23 Dec, 2010 03:05 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposer wrote:
Tell us how Soros is going to destroy the US economy

George Soros with the aid of the Democrat Party--one of his employees has stated we (i.e., George Soros) own the Democrat Party--is in the process of destroying the USA economy by causing the Federal government to make huge deficit expenditures that cannot be repaid by the people of the USA and keep the USA's economy functioning.
Quote:
GEORGE SOROS in his 1995 book, page 145, Soros on Soros, I do not accept the rules imposed by others. If I did, I would not be alive today. I am a law-abiding citizen, but I recognize that there are regimes that need to be opposed rather than accepted. And in periods of regime change, the normal rules don't apply. One needs to adjust one's behavior to the changing circumstances.

Michael Kaufman in his biography of George Soros, page 293, Soros , My goal is to become the conscience of the world.

GEORGE SOROS in his 2000 book, page 337, Open Society, Usually it takes a crisis to prompt a meaningful change in direction.

GEORGE SOROS in the 2003 edition of his book, page 15, The Alchemy of Finance ... What I am afraid of is that the pursuit of American supremacy may be successful for a while because the United States in fact employs a dominant position in the world today.

GEORGE SOROS on June 10, 2004 to the Associated Press, These are not normal times.

In April 2005 the Soros funded Campus Progress web site posted this headline: "An Invitation to Help Design the Constitution in 2020" (This was an invitation to a Yale law School Conference on "The Constitution of 2020: a progressive vision of what the Constitution ought to be.")

Sam Hananel in his associated Press article, December 10, 2004, On December 9, 2004, Eli Pariser, who headed Soros's group Moveon PAC, boasted to his members, "Now the Democratic Party is our party. We bought it, we own it."

Soros … pushed for the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act of 2002 which was intended to ban "soft money" contributions to federal election campaigns. Soros has responded that his donations to unaffiliated organizations do not raise the same corruption issues as donations directly to the candidates or political parties.

Soros gave $3 million to the Center for American Progress, committed $5 million to MoveOn, while he and his friend Peter Lewis each gave America Coming Together $10 million. (All were groups that worked to support Democrats in the 2004 election.)
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Thu 23 Dec, 2010 03:08 pm
@ican711nm,
How is the democratic party going to destroy the US economy?

Seems GW Bush already did a pretty good job, and he's a republican. That's in case you didn't know or are ignorant of economic issues.
H2O MAN
 
  -3  
Thu 23 Dec, 2010 03:43 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

How is the democratic party going to destroy the US economy?


Have you not been paying attention?

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ican711nm
 
  -3  
Thu 23 Dec, 2010 04:16 pm
@cicerone imposter,
One more time, George Soros with the aid of the Democrat Party ... is in the process of destroying the USA economy by causing the Federal government to make huge deficit expenditures that cannot be repaid by the people of the USA and keep the USA's economy functioning.

The Democrats became a majority in both the House and Senate in 2007.

Quote:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/fy2009/pdf/hist.pdf
Year………GROSS FEDERAL DEBT
1980.......$0.909 trillion [CARTER]
1988….….$2.601 trillion [REAGAN] average annual increase = 0.2115 trillion
1992........$4.002 trillion [BUSH41] average annual increase = 0.3503 trillion
2000.......$5.629 trillion [CLINTON] average annual increase = 0.2034 trillion
2008.......$9.654 trillion [BUSH43] average annual increase = 0.5031trillion
2010.......$10.954 trillion [OBAMA] as of November 2010, average annual increase for 1.917 years = 0.678 trillion


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JTT
 
  2  
Thu 23 Dec, 2010 04:18 pm
@ican711nm,
Everything that you posted of what he said screams "a person who is committed to change through peaceful democratic processes".

What part of freedom of speech, freedom of assembly do you not understand? [rhetorical question]
ican711nm
 
  0  
Thu 23 Dec, 2010 04:31 pm
@JTT,
JTT wrote:
Everything that you posted of what [Soros] said screams "a person who is committed to change through peaceful democratic processes".

FALSE!
What [Soros] said screams a change through VIOLATION of the Constitution of the USA as amended. Transfers of wealth from those who earned it to those who did not earn it are unlawful.

Redesigning the Constitution in 2020 is not amending the Constitution in 2009, 2010, 2011, and 2012.

Quote:
In April 2005 the Soros funded Campus Progress web site posted this headline: "An Invitation to Help Design the Constitution in 2020" (This was an invitation to a Yale law School Conference on "The Constitution of 2020: a progressive vision of what the Constitution ought to be.")
JTT
 
  1  
Thu 23 Dec, 2010 04:41 pm
@ican711nm,
Quote:
FALSE!
What [Soros] said screams a change through VIOLATION of the Constitution of the USA as amended. Transfers of wealth from those who earned it to those who did not earn it are unlawful.


You know that's false because such has been upheld by the highest court in the land. You also know that to be false because you don't have the slightest clue when it comes to constitutional law.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Thu 23 Dec, 2010 04:56 pm
ican is a dummy first class without any clues as to how our government works and about our own constitution. He's a brainless nitwit who makes claims without understanding how our country works; CLUE: it doesn't operate under one person or congress.
realjohnboy
 
  1  
Thu 23 Dec, 2010 05:14 pm
Good evening. I guess I should start my Christmas shopping tomorrow. Procrastination is an inherited gene from my father.
The Census Bureau says that there are 308M of us in America, with the rust belt losing people while the sun belt gains. There are certainly political ramifications to this.
Some of those are more complicated then I thought until I started to delve into the data released already with much more to follow. I have started to collect articles.
I am curious as to whether one of yall would be interested in starting a thread about the census data as it is released. I could do it but, as I may have mentioned, I and a couple of cohorts are working on a new A2K thread to be launched next week.

And, I must add, I hope everyone here has a fine weekend.
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ican711nm
 
  -1  
Thu 23 Dec, 2010 05:17 pm
@JTT,
Progressives--leftist liberals, statists, whatever you want to call 'em--have been corrupting our federal government since about 100 years ago. Obama and the 2007-10 Congress are the worst, but not the only such corrupters.

No where in the Constitution of the USA as amended is the federal government granted the power to transfer wealth from those who earned it to those who did not earn it. Such transfers of wealth are therefore unlawful.

No where in the Constitution of the USA as amended is the federal government granted the power to amend the the Constitution without the approval of three-fourths of the state legislatures.

Specifically, no where in the Constitution of the USA as amended is the US Supreme Court granted the power to amend the Constitution.

Quote:

http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/constitution_transcript.html
Article V
The Congress, whenever two thirds of both houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose amendments to this Constitution, or, on the application of the legislatures of two thirds of the several states, shall call a convention for proposing amendments, which, in either case, shall be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the legislatures of three fourths of the several states, or by conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other mode of ratification may be proposed by the Congress; provided that no amendment which may be made prior to the year one thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any manner affect the first and fourth clauses in the ninth section of the first article; and that no state, without its consent, shall be deprived of its equal suffrage in the Senate.

Quote:

http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/bill_of_rights_transcript.html
Amendment X
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.
ican711nm
 
  0  
Thu 23 Dec, 2010 05:30 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
ican is a dummy first class without any clues as to how our government works and about our own constitution. He's a brainless nitwit who makes claims without understanding how our country works; CLUE: it doesn't operate under one person or congress.

Cice, you post like employees of George Soros.
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JTT
 
  -1  
Thu 23 Dec, 2010 05:33 pm
@ican711nm,
You stupid ******* idiot! Nowhere in the Constitution does it say that the Federal or State governments can use asphalt to construct highways. Nor does it say that these governments can dam rivers or allow transmission lines to be built, or ... or ... or ... .
JTT
 
  -1  
Thu 23 Dec, 2010 05:34 pm
@ican711nm,
You stupid ******* idiot! Nowhere in the Constitution does it say that the Federal or State governments can use asphalt to construct highways or even to construct highways. Nor does it say that these governments can dam rivers or allow transmission lines to be built, or ... or ... or ... .
ican711nm
 
  0  
Thu 23 Dec, 2010 05:55 pm
@JTT,
JTT wrote:
You stupid ******* idiot! Nowhere in the Constitution does it say that the Federal or State governments can use asphalt to construct highways. Nor does it say that these governments can dam rivers or allow transmission lines to be built, or ... or ... or ... .

JTT, You too post like employees of George Soros.
ican711nm
 
  0  
Thu 23 Dec, 2010 06:03 pm
@JTT,
Quote:

http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/constitution_transcript.html
Article I
Section 8. Section 8. The Congress shall have power
To lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States; but all duties, imposts and excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
To borrow money on the credit of the United States;
To regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes;
To establish a uniform rule of naturalization, and uniform laws on the subject of bankruptcies throughout the United States;
To coin money, regulate the value thereof, and of foreign coin, and fix the standard of weights and measures;
To provide for the punishment of counterfeiting the securities and current coin of the United States;
To establish post offices and post roads;
To promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries;
To constitute tribunals inferior to the Supreme Court;
To define and punish piracies and felonies committed on the high seas, and offenses against the law of nations;
To declare war, grant letters of marque and reprisal, and make rules concerning captures on land and water;
To raise and support armies, but no appropriation of money to that use shall be for a longer term than two years;
To provide and maintain a navy;
To make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces;
To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions;
To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively, the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;
To exercise exclusive legislation in all cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten miles square) as may, by cession of particular states, and the acceptance of Congress, become the seat of the government of the United States, and to exercise like authority over all places purchased by the consent of the legislature of the state in which the same shall be, for the erection of forts, magazines, arsenals, dockyards, and other needful buildings;--And
To make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers, and all other powers vested by this Constitution in the government of the United States, or in any department or officer thereof.
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cicerone imposter
 
  0  
Thu 23 Dec, 2010 06:09 pm
@ican711nm,
JTT doesn't post like Soros, but you post like an idiot.
ican711nm
 
  -2  
Thu 23 Dec, 2010 06:34 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
JTT doesn't post like Soros, but you post like an idiot.

You too post like employees of Soros. You villify those who disagree with you rather than compose a rational rebuttal.
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Thu 23 Dec, 2010 06:35 pm
@ican711nm,
Show me when and where? YOu just can't make claims you are unable to support. That's a true sign of idiocy.
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