@ican711nm,
ican, You not only don't understand the laws of our country, but have no clue about our Constitution. You're more a traitor to this country than Soros for your ignorance.
The differences betwee George Soros and the average America Hater are large:
1) Billions of dollars of personal wealth
2) A level of intelligence, cunning, and ruthlessness that enabled him to achieve such a fortune
He's actually someone who can help implement the radical ideas he espouses.
If you buy into his radical idea, he's a selfless hero.
There are many, like Barrack Obama, who believe they can use George Soros to their benefit without accepting and helping to implement his radical ideas.
Soros, obviously, isn't an idiot and is well aware that the politicians he works with see him as a source of money, and not a partner in the goal of establishing his New World Order. As they try to mainupulate and use him, he is trying to manipulate and use them. He will have to gain something if their alliance is to continue. The question for Americans should be whether there are aspects of his vision that seem worth implementing and are there aspects which seem to promise nothing but disaster.
If there are none of the former, then beware politicians who ally themselves with him because he is not going to be duped; he will see some portion of his vision advanced.
If there are any of the latter, then we should really be concerned about our political leaders allying with him, because, again, he is not going to be duped; he will see some portion of his vision advabced.
@Finn dAbuzz,
Quote:Yet although he has written that he indulges his "messianic fantasies" through his giving, he is shrewd and sensitive enough to the rules of democracy not to try to impose his views directly. Instead, he uses his money to foster debate about his agenda, hoping that an educated public will agree with him.
Good luck with that, George. Remember, you've got many the likes of Finn; remember the 54 odd million who in 2004, reelected a dunce as president.
Quote:George Soros in the News:
The New York Times
December 17, 1996
A GIVER'S AGENDA: A special report;
With Big Money and Brash Ideas, A Billionaire Redefines Charity (Correction Appended)
By Judith Miller
At the peak of a storm last February, several of the nation's most gifted philosophers and political scientists met for a weekend at the Westchester County estate of George Soros, the Hungarian-born billionaire financier. As the wind rattled the windows, Mr. Soros raised a glass in honor of his guests and gave them a challenge: if they were to advise him on how to spend more money each year than the Ford Foundation does on philanthropy, much of it in the United States, what would they suggest?
"It was an astonishing session, as well as the most expensive philosophical tutorial anyone has ever had," said Alan Ryan, at the time a professor at Princeton and now the warden of New College at Oxford.
The philosophers' weekend debate, one of several "Soros retreats," as one participant called them, was pivotal in shaping the latest phase of Mr. Soros's extraordinary philanthropic career. For after spending $1.1 billion, most of it since 1989 trying to transform the former Soviet bloc into thriving capitalist democracies, or what he calls "open societies," Mr. Soros, deeply concerned that America's own open society is eroding, is bringing his philanthropy home. Along the way he is shaking up the philanthropic world.
A man who often seems to donate millions on impulse, Mr. Soros plans to devote half his annual giving -- more than $350 million last year, almost all of it overseas -- to five domestic issues: immigrants' rights, death and dying, drugs, education and criminal justice. While other foundations and philanthropists are more comfortable healing the sick, housing the poor or feeding the hungry, Mr. Soros is unabashed in pursuing a political agenda.
Almost singlehandedly, for instance, Mr. Soros financed successful ballot initiatives this fall in Arizona and California to permit the use of marijuana for medical purposes. The support brought furious criticism from many conservatives, government officials and drug experts, who called it an arrogant social experiment that they fear is a disastrous first step toward full legalization of marijuana and other drugs.
But Mr. Soros, who amassed most of his net worth of $2 billion by taking huge risks in the currency and other financial markets, is undaunted by any fury. He says the philosophers' weekend reinforced his determination to greatly increase his domestic giving -- since 1994, he has committed $90 million -- out of concern that the conservative drift in the United States has bred indifference to genocide abroad and to suffering and injustice at home.
http://www.sorostrading.com/art12_16_96.html
@ican711nm,
Before you do that, you need to actually read the constitution. Treason is defined there, and nothing George Soros has done even comes close to the definition.
Don't let your hatred of the man allow you to ignore the constitution.
@mysteryman,
mysteryman wrote:Before you do that, you need to actually read the constitution. Treason is defined there, and nothing George Soros has done even comes close to the definition.
We disagree! Much of what George Soros has done fits the Constitution's definition of treason to the USA.
Quote:Article III. Section 3. Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.
The Congress shall have power to declare the punishment of treason, but no attainder of treason shall work corruption of blood, or forfeiture except during the life of the person attainted.
George Soros is
adhering to the enemies of the USA, giving them aid and comfort, whose objective is the distruction of the U.S. economy.
Quote:
http://sandrarose.com/2009/11/george-soros-plot-to-create-a-new-world-order-through-the-destruction-of-the-us-economy/
George Soros’ Plot To Create a New World Order Through the Destruction of the U.S. Economy
For those of you who don’t know this man, his name is George Soros and he is a multibillionaire Globalist whose millions in political contributions financed Barack Obama’s campaign for president.
He is Obama’s biggest benefactor.
In this video, Soros basically tells America to stop resisting a New World Order and he’s hoping that China will lead the New World Order once the American economy is destroyed.
In other words, he’s telling us we should not resist the destruction of our economy! Who needs Bin Laden when we have Soros?
I’m posting the highlights from his interview below in case you don’t have the time to watch the video. Did I mention that Soros’ millions helped put Obama in the White House?
“…an orderly decline of the dollar is desirable”
“It’s ill-considered on the part of the United States to resist…”
“It is not necessarily in our interests to have the dollar as the sole world currency.”
“A decline in the value of the dollar is necessary in order to compensate for the fact that the U.S. economy will remain rather weak…”
“China will emerge as the motor replacing the U.S. consumer..”
“China will be the engine driving (the New World Order) forward, and the U.S. will be actually a drag that’s being pulled along through a gradual decline in the value of the dollar.”
@ican711nm,
What's your definition of "aid and comfort to the enemy?" Is it anything like the US backing of Saddam during the Iraq-Iran war?
@ican711nm,
EXAMPLES OF THE METHODOLOGY OF GEORGE SOROS TO SUBVERT THE USA
Quote:In April 2005 the Soros funded Campus Progress web site posted this headline: "An Invitation to Help Design the Constitution in 2020" (This was an invitation to a Yale law School Conference on "The Constitution of 2020: a progressive vision of what the Constitution ought to be.")
Sam Hananel in his associated Press article, December 10, 2004, wrote: On December 9, 2004, Eli Pariser, who headed Soros's group Moveon PAC, boasted to his members, "Now the Democratic Party is our party. We bought it, we own it."
Quote:Soros … pushed for the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act of 2002 which was intended to ban "soft money" contributions to federal election campaigns. Soros has responded that his donations to unaffiliated organizations do not raise the same corruption issues as donations directly to the candidates or political parties.
@ican711nm,
Now, explain how those examples are against the US Constitution?
@ican711nm,
According to your definition for "adhere," Soros seems to have done so in spades. LOL
Can you, now, tell us how Soros broke any laws based on the US Constitution?
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:Can you, now, tell us how Soros broke any laws based on the US Constitution?
Not bloody likely, CI, but be prepared to read the entire M-W dictionary.
Quote:Article III. Section 3. Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.
The Congress shall have power to declare the punishment of treason, but no attainder of treason shall work corruption of blood, or forfeiture except during the life of the person attainted.
Anyone who adheres to enemies of the USA and gives them aid and comfort is committing treason against the USA. Committing treason against the USA is a violation of the "supreme law of the land" and is a crime no matter how nicely perpetrated.
Wow! It appears that there are at least two residents of the USA who actually believe that as long as one commits a crime nicely, it isn't a crime!
.....................................Merry Christmas! ................ Happy New Year!
@ican711nm,
The problem is that you define 'enemies of the United States' as 'anyone who disagrees with me.'
Cycloptichorn
@ican711nm,
In 1978, when I was a senior in high school, I took part in a meeting of high school seniors around the county.
Our stated purpose was to rewrite the Constitution based on the beliefs and traditions then.
Tell me, was I committing treason then?
@mysteryman,
Yeah, you belong in the pokie with Soros.
@mysteryman,
What did you come up with, Mysteryman?
@mysteryman,
Mysteryman, it is not a crime to write a constitution you think would be preferrable to the existing Constitution of the USA. It is a crime to violate the existing Constitution of the USA.
How does one violate the existing Constitution of the USA? One does that by violating one or more specific provisions of the Constitution of the USA. Here are two examples of such provisions that are currently being violated by the current Congress and the current President of the USA--it has been alleged that George Soros owns them both:
Quote:Amendment V (1791)
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
Quote:Amendment XIII (1865)
Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.
Section 2. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.
@ican711nm,
Quote:it has been alleged that George Soros owns them both:
Nobody with an ounce of sense has made such an allegation.
Cycloptichorn