ican711nm
 
  0  
Fri 24 Dec, 2010 09:59 am
http://sandrarose.com/2009/11/george-soros-plot-to-create-a-new-world-order-through-the-destruction-of-the-us-economy/
George Soros is a self-confessed traitor and should be indicted and tried for treason.
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Fri 24 Dec, 2010 10:30 am
@ican711nm,
ican, You not only don't understand the laws of our country, but have no clue about our Constitution. You're more a traitor to this country than Soros for your ignorance.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
  1  
Fri 24 Dec, 2010 02:24 pm
The differences betwee George Soros and the average America Hater are large:

1) Billions of dollars of personal wealth
2) A level of intelligence, cunning, and ruthlessness that enabled him to achieve such a fortune

He's actually someone who can help implement the radical ideas he espouses.

If you buy into his radical idea, he's a selfless hero.

There are many, like Barrack Obama, who believe they can use George Soros to their benefit without accepting and helping to implement his radical ideas.

Soros, obviously, isn't an idiot and is well aware that the politicians he works with see him as a source of money, and not a partner in the goal of establishing his New World Order. As they try to mainupulate and use him, he is trying to manipulate and use them. He will have to gain something if their alliance is to continue. The question for Americans should be whether there are aspects of his vision that seem worth implementing and are there aspects which seem to promise nothing but disaster.

If there are none of the former, then beware politicians who ally themselves with him because he is not going to be duped; he will see some portion of his vision advanced.

If there are any of the latter, then we should really be concerned about our political leaders allying with him, because, again, he is not going to be duped; he will see some portion of his vision advabced.


JTT
 
  0  
Fri 24 Dec, 2010 03:13 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Quote:
Yet although he has written that he indulges his "messianic fantasies" through his giving, he is shrewd and sensitive enough to the rules of democracy not to try to impose his views directly. Instead, he uses his money to foster debate about his agenda, hoping that an educated public will agree with him.


Good luck with that, George. Remember, you've got many the likes of Finn; remember the 54 odd million who in 2004, reelected a dunce as president.

Quote:
George Soros in the News:
The New York Times
December 17, 1996

A GIVER'S AGENDA: A special report;
With Big Money and Brash Ideas, A Billionaire Redefines Charity (Correction Appended)

By Judith Miller

At the peak of a storm last February, several of the nation's most gifted philosophers and political scientists met for a weekend at the Westchester County estate of George Soros, the Hungarian-born billionaire financier. As the wind rattled the windows, Mr. Soros raised a glass in honor of his guests and gave them a challenge: if they were to advise him on how to spend more money each year than the Ford Foundation does on philanthropy, much of it in the United States, what would they suggest?

"It was an astonishing session, as well as the most expensive philosophical tutorial anyone has ever had," said Alan Ryan, at the time a professor at Princeton and now the warden of New College at Oxford.

The philosophers' weekend debate, one of several "Soros retreats," as one participant called them, was pivotal in shaping the latest phase of Mr. Soros's extraordinary philanthropic career. For after spending $1.1 billion, most of it since 1989 trying to transform the former Soviet bloc into thriving capitalist democracies, or what he calls "open societies," Mr. Soros, deeply concerned that America's own open society is eroding, is bringing his philanthropy home. Along the way he is shaking up the philanthropic world.

A man who often seems to donate millions on impulse, Mr. Soros plans to devote half his annual giving -- more than $350 million last year, almost all of it overseas -- to five domestic issues: immigrants' rights, death and dying, drugs, education and criminal justice. While other foundations and philanthropists are more comfortable healing the sick, housing the poor or feeding the hungry, Mr. Soros is unabashed in pursuing a political agenda.

Almost singlehandedly, for instance, Mr. Soros financed successful ballot initiatives this fall in Arizona and California to permit the use of marijuana for medical purposes. The support brought furious criticism from many conservatives, government officials and drug experts, who called it an arrogant social experiment that they fear is a disastrous first step toward full legalization of marijuana and other drugs.

But Mr. Soros, who amassed most of his net worth of $2 billion by taking huge risks in the currency and other financial markets, is undaunted by any fury. He says the philosophers' weekend reinforced his determination to greatly increase his domestic giving -- since 1994, he has committed $90 million -- out of concern that the conservative drift in the United States has bred indifference to genocide abroad and to suffering and injustice at home.


http://www.sorostrading.com/art12_16_96.html

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mysteryman
 
  3  
Fri 24 Dec, 2010 03:50 pm
@ican711nm,
Before you do that, you need to actually read the constitution. Treason is defined there, and nothing George Soros has done even comes close to the definition.
Don't let your hatred of the man allow you to ignore the constitution.
ican711nm
 
  -1  
Sat 25 Dec, 2010 01:09 pm
@mysteryman,
mysteryman wrote:
Before you do that, you need to actually read the constitution. Treason is defined there, and nothing George Soros has done even comes close to the definition.

We disagree! Much of what George Soros has done fits the Constitution's definition of treason to the USA.
Quote:
Article III. Section 3. Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.
The Congress shall have power to declare the punishment of treason, but no attainder of treason shall work corruption of blood, or forfeiture except during the life of the person attainted.

George Soros is adhering to the enemies of the USA, giving them aid and comfort, whose objective is the distruction of the U.S. economy.
Quote:

http://sandrarose.com/2009/11/george-soros-plot-to-create-a-new-world-order-through-the-destruction-of-the-us-economy/
George Soros’ Plot To Create a New World Order Through the Destruction of the U.S. Economy

For those of you who don’t know this man, his name is George Soros and he is a multibillionaire Globalist whose millions in political contributions financed Barack Obama’s campaign for president.
He is Obama’s biggest benefactor.

In this video, Soros basically tells America to stop resisting a New World Order and he’s hoping that China will lead the New World Order once the American economy is destroyed.

In other words, he’s telling us we should not resist the destruction of our economy! Who needs Bin Laden when we have Soros?

I’m posting the highlights from his interview below in case you don’t have the time to watch the video. Did I mention that Soros’ millions helped put Obama in the White House?

“…an orderly decline of the dollar is desirable”
“It’s ill-considered on the part of the United States to resist…”
“It is not necessarily in our interests to have the dollar as the sole world currency.”
“A decline in the value of the dollar is necessary in order to compensate for the fact that the U.S. economy will remain rather weak…”
“China will emerge as the motor replacing the U.S. consumer..”
“China will be the engine driving (the New World Order) forward, and the U.S. will be actually a drag that’s being pulled along through a gradual decline in the value of the dollar.”


cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Sat 25 Dec, 2010 01:13 pm
@ican711nm,
What's your definition of "aid and comfort to the enemy?" Is it anything like the US backing of Saddam during the Iraq-Iran war?
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ican711nm
 
  -1  
Sat 25 Dec, 2010 01:20 pm
@ican711nm,
EXAMPLES OF THE METHODOLOGY OF GEORGE SOROS TO SUBVERT THE USA
Quote:
In April 2005 the Soros funded Campus Progress web site posted this headline: "An Invitation to Help Design the Constitution in 2020" (This was an invitation to a Yale law School Conference on "The Constitution of 2020: a progressive vision of what the Constitution ought to be.")


Sam Hananel in his associated Press article, December 10, 2004, wrote:
On December 9, 2004, Eli Pariser, who headed Soros's group Moveon PAC, boasted to his members, "Now the Democratic Party is our party. We bought it, we own it."


Quote:
Soros … pushed for the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act of 2002 which was intended to ban "soft money" contributions to federal election campaigns. Soros has responded that his donations to unaffiliated organizations do not raise the same corruption issues as donations directly to the candidates or political parties.

cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Sat 25 Dec, 2010 01:28 pm
@ican711nm,
Now, explain how those examples are against the US Constitution?
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ican711nm
 
  -1  
Sat 25 Dec, 2010 01:30 pm
@ican711nm,
Quote:

http://unabridged.merriam-webster.com/cgi-bin/unabridged?va=enemy&x=24&y=6
Main Entry: en·e·my
Pronunciation Guide
Pronunciation: enm, -mi
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural enemies
Usage: often attributive
Etymology: Middle English enemi, from Old French enemi, inimi, from Latin inimicus, from in- not + amicus friend -- more at UN-, AMIABLE
1 : one that seeks the injury, overthrow, or failure of a person or thing to which he is opposed : ADVERSARY, OPPONENT <the two brothers were political enemies>
2 : something injurious, harmful, or deadly <drink was his greatest enemy>
3 a : a military foe <the enemy was driven off> <meet the enemy on equal terms> -- sometimes plural in constr. <the enemy were in large force> b : a hostile unit, ship, tank, or aircraft <after a running battle the enemy was sunk by a direct hit at 1000 yards> c plural enemy : a member of a hostile force <30 to 40 enemy engaged a friendly patrol -- New York Times>
synonyms ENEMY and FOE both signify a thing, person, or group that is hostile to one. ENEMY usually stresses antagonism manifest in a desire to harm or destroy although it may suggest only an active dislike or habit of preying upon <to amass adequate air power to deter our enemies from immediate attack> <let the teacher appear always the ally of the pupil, not his natural enemy -- Bertrand Russell> <time is at once the enemy and the ally of life and of love -- F.B.Millett> <the mortal enemies of man are ... the aspects of the physical world that limit or challenge his control -- W.C.Allee> <germ-bearing insects and other enemies of mankind> FOE generally implies active warfare, usually figurative <the intransigent foe of hypocrisy and false standards -- Gene Baro> <laughter is by no means a foe of reason -- H.A.Overstreet> <the representative from Michigan has a reputation as a foe of waste, particularly in the armed services -- Current Biography> In application to an opponent in war, ENEMY is the common word and FOE is chiefly poetic or rhetorical <he had fresh troops and superior numbers and forced the enemy back until they abandoned the field -- C.H.Lanza> <donning his sword and buckler to fight the foe>
ican711nm
 
  -1  
Sat 25 Dec, 2010 01:40 pm
@ican711nm,
Quote:

http://unabridged.merriam-webster.com/cgi-bin/unabridged?va=adhering&x=20&y=4
Main Entry: ad·here Pronunciation Guide
Pronunciation: adhi()r, d-, -i
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): -ed/-ing/-s
Etymology: Middle French or Latin; Middle French adhérer, from Latin adhaerre, from ad- + haerre to stick -- more at HESITATE
intransitive verb
1 : to hold, follow, or maintain loyalty steadily and consistently (as to a person, group, principle, or way) <the agrarian party, to which he adhered to the end of his life -- V.L.Parrington>
2 obsolete : to be consistent or in accord <nor time nor place did then adhere -- Shakespeare>
3 a : to hold fast or stick by or as if by gluing, suction, grasping, or fusing <paper adhering to the wall> b : to become joined (as in pathological adhesion ) <the lung sometimes adheres to the pleura>
4 : to agree to join : bind oneself to observance (as of a treaty) <other tribes adhered to the pact -- P.M.Angle>
5 Scots law : to cohabit as husband or wife
6 botany : to display adhesion
transitive verb : to cause to stick fast <paper that had been adhered to a surface with glue>
synonyms STICK, CLING, CLEAVE, COHERE: adhere is a general term somewhat more bookish in suggestion than STICK to indicate any holding to, especially steadily and over a period of time <the glue adhering to the frame> <dried blood still adhering to the cloth> <to revise our ideas and not to adhere to what passes for respectable opinion -- J.H.Robinson> STICK, more familiar and forceful, may more strongly indicate close tenacious holding to, as though fixed in, embedded, glued <the barb stuck in the flesh> <the molasses stuck to his fingers> <both sides sticking obstinately to their old positions -- New Statesman & Nation> CLING suggests a hanging on or holding to tenaciously as though in danger or fear of losing one's grip <tall spruce, their roots clinging tenaciously to the few inches of soil, crown the summit -- American Guide Series: Maine> <throwing men and women into the sea with a ship to cling to and a chance of reaching another country -- G.B.Shaw> <hopes which Huxley cherished and to which many still cling -- J.W.Krutch> CLEAVE, a rather literary word, implies a close sticking or holding of or as if of flat layers glued or plastered together, a very close, lasting, and indissoluble attachment <the soaked shirt cleaving to his shoulders> <to love one maiden only, cleave to her, and worship her by years of noble deeds -- Alfred Tennyson> COHERE may indicate either a physical sticking together in a mass or an abstract common principle or general consistency that facilitates joining or uniting; it applies to the holding together of like things, of parts of a whole <the mortar will cohere to the bricks> <the parts of the exposition do not cohere>
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Sat 25 Dec, 2010 01:50 pm
@ican711nm,
According to your definition for "adhere," Soros seems to have done so in spades. LOL

Can you, now, tell us how Soros broke any laws based on the US Constitution?
JTT
 
  1  
Sat 25 Dec, 2010 01:59 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
Can you, now, tell us how Soros broke any laws based on the US Constitution?


Not bloody likely, CI, but be prepared to read the entire M-W dictionary.
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ican711nm
 
  -1  
Sat 25 Dec, 2010 02:47 pm
Quote:
Article III. Section 3. Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.
The Congress shall have power to declare the punishment of treason, but no attainder of treason shall work corruption of blood, or forfeiture except during the life of the person attainted.

Anyone who adheres to enemies of the USA and gives them aid and comfort is committing treason against the USA. Committing treason against the USA is a violation of the "supreme law of the land" and is a crime no matter how nicely perpetrated.

Wow! It appears that there are at least two residents of the USA who actually believe that as long as one commits a crime nicely, it isn't a crime!

.....................................Merry Christmas! ................ Happy New Year!
Cycloptichorn
 
  3  
Sat 25 Dec, 2010 02:49 pm
@ican711nm,
The problem is that you define 'enemies of the United States' as 'anyone who disagrees with me.'

Cycloptichorn
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mysteryman
 
  2  
Sat 25 Dec, 2010 02:53 pm
@ican711nm,
In 1978, when I was a senior in high school, I took part in a meeting of high school seniors around the county.
Our stated purpose was to rewrite the Constitution based on the beliefs and traditions then.
Tell me, was I committing treason then?
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Sat 25 Dec, 2010 02:54 pm
@mysteryman,
Yeah, you belong in the pokie with Soros.
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realjohnboy
 
  1  
Sat 25 Dec, 2010 03:03 pm
@mysteryman,
What did you come up with, Mysteryman?
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ican711nm
 
  -3  
Sat 25 Dec, 2010 03:14 pm
@mysteryman,
Mysteryman, it is not a crime to write a constitution you think would be preferrable to the existing Constitution of the USA. It is a crime to violate the existing Constitution of the USA.

How does one violate the existing Constitution of the USA? One does that by violating one or more specific provisions of the Constitution of the USA. Here are two examples of such provisions that are currently being violated by the current Congress and the current President of the USA--it has been alleged that George Soros owns them both:
Quote:
Amendment V (1791)
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

Quote:
Amendment XIII (1865)
Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.
Section 2. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.
Cycloptichorn
 
  1  
Sat 25 Dec, 2010 03:16 pm
@ican711nm,
Quote:
it has been alleged that George Soros owns them both:


Nobody with an ounce of sense has made such an allegation.

Cycloptichorn
 

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