Butrflynet
 
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Mon 16 Apr, 2007 10:55 pm
Phoenix32890 wrote:
Quote:
While shunning lobbyists money, the Obama campaign still has relied on political and policy advice from Washington lobbyists and does accept donations from lobbyists spouses.


Did anybody read that sentence?


One should not assume that this is a subterfuge for passing lobbyist money to the campaign. There is a slippery slope here; if a lobbyist's husband or wife is not allowed to contribute, how about parents? Uncles and aunts? Third cousins?


If a lobbyist is violating campaign contribution laws by gifting monies to his or her spouse for donation to the Senator, the lobbyist is in the wrong. The Senator is rightfully refusing money from lobbyists. Obama does not seek to control what goes on behind closed doors between spouses. He does and will continue to openly refuse contributions from federal lobbyists.

As for donations from his grassroots supporters, here's a summary:

The National Numbers:

*Over 100,000 donors

*Over 4,000 My.BarackObama.com Groups

*Over 9,000 My.BarackObama.com Blogs

*Over 50,000 My.BarackObama.com Members

*Over 5,000 community meetings and house parties were held on March 31st all over the United States.

*Over $25 million raised nationwide

*Over $23.5 million is eligible for use in the primary

*Over $6.9 million was raised over the Internet

The Obama campaign reports that nationwide, 90% of the donations were in increments of $100 or less, with 60% in increments of $25 or less. No PAC dollars accepted or included. On average, the $25 million represents a total of $250 given by each of the 100,000 donors. That still leaves a lot of room for growth in fundraising activities before people reach their $2,300 per person maximum as mandated by the FEC election laws.
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snood
 
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Tue 17 Apr, 2007 02:50 am
I was going to express that same thought about whether or not accepting a lobbyist's spouse's donationg was necessarily indicative of something bad, but felt myself getting all defensive, so didn't pursue it. But since you mention it, if my spouse works at Halliburton, would any support I gave to a candidate be considered de facto support from Halliburton? A potential slippery slope, indeed.
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Ethel2
 
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Tue 17 Apr, 2007 10:43 pm
Lola wrote:
Miller wrote:
cicerone imposter wrote:
Just for a moment, there, I thought Obama was going to be different.


If he's different, then he won't need $25 million+.


Well, that's a bit like arguing that for you, miller, to be a different sort of a2k poster, you'll rise to the occasion and simply cease posting.


My my, I do seem to write with both hands.......

The Obama people called me and I donated $50.00. I can give more as time goes on. Obama has raised a lot more money than is yet on record. All of Obama's small donors can and will give more. It's in the bank. I know they'll be calling to remind me as often as is necessary.
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Butrflynet
 
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Tue 17 Apr, 2007 11:54 pm
Please take about 10 minutes of your time, on a broadband connection, to listen to Michelle Obama's speech at the recent kick off of the Women for Obama initiative.


It doesn't get any more grassroots than this. She spoke from the heart to and for every woman and parent in the country. It is unfortunate that it occurred on the same day as the Virginia shootings. It isn't getting any exposure in the media, only on his website. People need to hear her talk about her husband and how this is our window of opportunity to make changes in our country and, at the same time, elect him as our next president.


You'll also find a news article and photo gallery from the event here.
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blatham
 
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Wed 18 Apr, 2007 03:50 am
We remember this...
Quote:
As Media Matters for America noted, in a December 18, 2006, online post headlined "Barack Hussein Obama: Once a Muslim, Always A Muslim," Schlussel argued that because Sen. Barack Obama's (D-IL) middle name is Hussein, his late, estranged father was of Muslim descent, and he has shown interest in his father's Kenyan heritage, Obama's "loyalties" must be called into question.


Then, two days ago, Debbie Schlussel wrote...
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Schlussel wrote, "The murderer has been identified by law enforcement and media reports as a young Asian male," adding, "The Virginia Tech campus has a very large Muslim community, many of which are from Pakistan." Schlussel continued: "Pakis are considered 'Asian,' " and asked, "Were there two [shooters] and was this a coordinated terrorist attack?" Schlussel asserted that the reason she was "speculating that the 'Asian' gunman is a Pakistani Muslim" was "ecause law enforcement and the media strangely won't tell us more specifically who the gunman is." Schlussel claimed that "[e]ven if it does not turn out that the shooter is Muslim, this is a demonstration to Muslim jihadists all over that it is extremely easy to shoot and kill multiple American college students."
http://mediamatters.org/items/200704170006
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snood
 
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Wed 18 Apr, 2007 04:03 am
Geez, that Schlussel seems like a big horse's ass.

Here's some dish about Edwards that won't make supporters happy...


ROB CHRISTENSEN, Staff Writer
Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards may be campaigning as a populist, but when he's in L.A., he gets a $400 haircut from a Beverly Hills stylist.

Edwards' presidential campaign reported twice paying $400 for haircuts at Torrenueva Hair Designs, according to reports filed this week with the Federal Elections Commission.

That was even pricier than the $200 haircut that another L.A. stylist, Christophe, gave to President Clinton in 1993, which caused a ruckus.
The Edwards campaign did not return calls Tuesday seeking comment.
But Joseph Torrenueva said one reason the haircut was pricey was because he went to Edwards rather than having the former senator come to his shop a block off Rodeo Drive.

"I do cut his hair and I have cut it for quite a while," Torrenueva told The Associated Press.
Edwards has spent a considerable time in California raising funds.
Edwards' campaign also reported spending $250 in services from Design Works Salon in Dubuque, Iowa, and $225 in services from the Pink Sapphire in Manchester, N.H.

Ariana Franggos, owner of the Pink Sapphire, said she was hired by the Edwards campaign to apply TV makeup for an Edwards television appearance. She said she has done the same thing for "quite a few" other presidential candidates.


http://www.newsobserver.com/114/story/565321.html
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sozobe
 
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Wed 18 Apr, 2007 07:22 am
Oh, I've never gotten the haircut stuff.

If it was, I dunno, $40,000 maybe I'd see it. But everyone knows he's got money, $400 just doesn't bother me that much in the scheme of things.

You're right that it might dent the "populist" image for the general electorate though, dunno.

Butrflynet, I don't suppose there's a transcript for Michelle's remarks?
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Thomas
 
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Wed 18 Apr, 2007 07:49 am
You just wait until some radio host reveals that Hillary Clinton leaked all this -- again! Twisted Evil
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Butrflynet
 
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Wed 18 Apr, 2007 03:50 pm
sozobe wrote:
Butrflynet, I don't suppose there's a transcript for Michelle's remarks?



No, but it is short enough that I'll spend some time typing out a transcript for you. Give me a few days to get this done. I am on dial-up and it takes several hours for the 10-minute video to load so I can view it. :::grr!:::

It is worth doing and I will post it here and send it to the campaign when finished so they can post it on their website too.
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Foxfyre
 
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Wed 18 Apr, 2007 04:02 pm
In case anybody wants Schlussel's version instead of the George Soros funded "Media Matters" version, here's the website:

http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2007/04/who_is_the_asia.html
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au1929
 
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Wed 18 Apr, 2007 04:07 pm
We can't elect a guy to the presidency that takes $400 haircuts. Can we? :wink:
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Foxfyre
 
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Wed 18 Apr, 2007 04:09 pm
Have we elected a bald president since Eisenhower? Who would have thought good hair would be a qualifying characteristic?
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Butrflynet
 
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Wed 18 Apr, 2007 04:11 pm
In case nobody wants to patronize her website, here's a copy and paste of the blog entry:

Quote:
April 16, 2007
Who is the "Asian" Mass Murderer at Virginia Tech? UPDATE: Shooter is S. KOREAN
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By Debbie Schlussel

**** UPDATE #3, 04/17/07: The shooter has now been identified as a South Korean national, who is a permanent resident. ****

**** UPDATE #2: The shooter has now been identified as a Chinese national here on a student visa. Lovely. Yet another reason to stop letting in so many foreign students. ****

**** UPDATE: Shootings appear professional, says expert; VTU Alum on school's "Asian" Population; 2nd Amenment-Free Campus/VTU lobbied against students having guns on campus for personal protection ****

Here's what we know about the murderer of at least 32 students and maimer of at least 28 more at Virginia Tech, today:

* The murderer has been identified by law enforcement and media reports as "a young Asian male."

* The Virginia Tech campus has a very large Muslim community, many of which are from Pakistan (per terrorism investigator Bill Warner).

* Pakis are considered "Asian."

* There were 2 attacks at least half a mile apart.

* There have been at least two bomb threats to this campus in the last two weeks.


How could there be only one shooter--who was able to go a half mile away to commit a second set of shootings? Were there two and was this a coordinated terrorist attack?

So who is the shooter? What is the shooter's nationality? What is the shooter's religion? Waiting to find out. And wondering why the police and media are referring to the shooter as "Asian" and not by specific nationality.

If I were Asian, I'd be legitimately upset with this broad generalization of the mass murderer's identity.

Why am I speculating that the "Asian" gunman is a Pakistani Muslim? Because law enforcement and the media strangely won't tell us more specifically who the gunman is. Why?

Even if it does not turn out that the shooter is Muslim, this is a demonstration to Muslim jihadists all over that it is extremely easy to shoot and kill multiple American college students.

Posted by Debbie at April 16, 2007 02:57 PM
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eoe
 
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Wed 18 Apr, 2007 04:11 pm
I don't know about how serious you guys are but $400 is pretty pricey for a haircut. Especially for a man. Shocked
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au1929
 
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Wed 18 Apr, 2007 04:15 pm
eoe wrote:
I don't know about how serious you guys are but $400 is pretty pricey for a haircut. Especially for a man. Shocked


This is an equal opportunity election. How much do you think Hillary spends for her primping? Rolling Eyes

In any event if you got it why not flaunt it.
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mysteryman
 
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Wed 18 Apr, 2007 04:46 pm
au1929 wrote:
eoe wrote:
I don't know about how serious you guys are but $400 is pretty pricey for a haircut. Especially for a man. Shocked


This is an equal opportunity election. How much do you think Hillary spends for her primping? Rolling Eyes

In any event if you got it why not flaunt it.


Because he claims to be "a man of the people", "one of you",and an "average person".

Average people dont get $400 haircuts.
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Wed 18 Apr, 2007 04:53 pm
I just googled breck hair $400. Laughing People sure like to rant about silly stuff.
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snood
 
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Wed 18 Apr, 2007 04:58 pm
mysteryman wrote:
au1929 wrote:
eoe wrote:
I don't know about how serious you guys are but $400 is pretty pricey for a haircut. Especially for a man. Shocked


This is an equal opportunity election. How much do you think Hillary spends for her primping? Rolling Eyes

In any event if you got it why not flaunt it.


Because he claims to be "a man of the people", "one of you",and an "average person".

Average people dont get $400 haircuts.


Aw c'mon, man - you're leaning on this a little hard (I posted it knowing some would). Most of those heros on capitol hill and pennsylvania ave, including your boy the shrub (especially him), try to portray themselves as being "one of the regular folks". You know damn well it wouldn't be hard to dig up their excesses. Don't pop a vein over it.
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mysteryman
 
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Wed 18 Apr, 2007 05:07 pm
snood wrote:
mysteryman wrote:
au1929 wrote:
eoe wrote:
I don't know about how serious you guys are but $400 is pretty pricey for a haircut. Especially for a man. Shocked


This is an equal opportunity election. How much do you think Hillary spends for her primping? Rolling Eyes

In any event if you got it why not flaunt it.


Because he claims to be "a man of the people", "one of you",and an "average person".

Average people dont get $400 haircuts.


Aw c'mon, man - you're leaning on this a little hard (I posted it knowing some would). Most of those heros on capitol hill and pennsylvania ave, including your boy the shrub (especially him), try to portray themselves as being "one of the regular folks". You know damn well it wouldn't be hard to dig up their excesses. Don't pop a vein over it.


I'm not leaning on anything.
I made one comment about the haircut,nothing more.

At least he didnt force an airport to close so he could get his haircut on the runway.
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snood
 
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Wed 18 Apr, 2007 05:18 pm
another swwipe at another democrat... typical.

Just be as righteously indignant when we hear of one of your GOP boys' indulgences, 'kay?
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