Obama '08?

Very interesting and accurate assessment.

American Narcissus
The vanity of Barack Obama
Jonathan V. Last

http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/american-narcissus_516686.html

FYI, I dont support slavery of any kind.

Like I said okie.. you weren't really a farm kid.

We knew all about safety. One would have to be incredibly unlucky or incredibly stupid to get stuck in a baler when baling hay. There is no reason to be running it when you aren't on the tractor and in the field. You simply start the pto as you pull up to the hay row. The pto shaft is the most dangerous thing for any piece of equipment because it is there when you get on and off the tractor if it is running. When baling, you turn it off when you are going to get off the tractor. I am guessing the son of a family you know that was killed was probably older and attempting to fix a baler that wasn't working. Adults stick their hands in snow blowers all the time without realizing they need to make sure it is shut off before doing so. Stupidity or carelessness, either of which can get you injured.

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There you go to your practice of twisting the truth. I spent far more than 2 weeks on a farm. What is your game here, parados, to intentionally make stuff up and distort my posts?

So you say but your words are not the words of someone that really knew farming which is why I refer to it as someone that spent 2 weeks. It is a phrase okie that illustrates your lack of knowledge.

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Since Montana and South Dakota are adjacent, and the fact that the settlers may be similar in heritage,

South Dakota is a large state okie. I lived 8 miles from Minnesota and about 350 miles from Montana. Your statement would be like saying everyone in Oklahoma is like people in New Mexico.

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It has in fact seemed rather unbelievable that South Dakota could send people like Daschle to D.C. I get your point, parados.

Do you okie? Do you really understand that people are just people and they can have differing opinions without being unpatriotic or out to destroy the country? I doubt you do understand my point okie.

Stupid, ignorant myseryman, revel suggested republicans would rather go back to slavery and you support that.
I point out that PrezBO would love to see slave labor again and you whine like a little girl.
Republicans are the anti-slavery party.
Democrats are the pro-slavery party.
I guess slave labor is fine with you as long as it's the republicans.

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Stupid, ignorant myseryman, revel suggested republicans would rather go back to slavery and you support that.
I point out that PrezBO would love to see slave labor again and you whine like a little girl.
Republicans are the anti-slavery party.
Democrats are the pro-slavery party.
I guess slave labor is fine with you as long as it's the republicans.

I am going to have to advise you and hope you let up on mysteryman, H2OMAN. I believe mm is a good man and has credible opinions.

To be fair to you, I have told folks like plainoldme that the Democrats control of minority votes, such as the 90% of the black vote, I have compared it to the Democrat party keeping them on their plantation, as they will continue to give out government favoritism to the black community as long as the black community delivers their votes in every election. Sort of like we will feed you as long as you work for us. However, that scenario is a political parallel to slavery, but not real slavery.

Either the bales were tied too loosely or too tight, so the operator would get back there and adjust and observe the baler, sometimes as they manually fed hay into the baler. I am not real familiar with balers, but this is what I observed, and I also heard the guys talking about the dangers of it.

You should know, that is if you are from South Dakota, that many of the Europeans that settled South Dakota and North Dakota, they also went on over into Montana. In fact, I had a relative from Denmark that went into Montana, and I have read about the Scandanavians settling in North and South Dakota as well. Oklahoma and New Mexico are much different in their cultural makeup, with Oklahoma having many indian tribes, plus settlers homesteading in the land runs of 1889 and 1893. In contrast, I believe New Mexico was settled earlier, primarily by the Spanish. Of course you have the Navajo as well as other tribes, including many pueblo indians in New Mexico, far different than Oklahoma.

All I can tell you, parados, is that your opinions are pretty radical, especially for a farm kid. At least that is my opinion, and that is all I can offer you here.

Not only that, your claims about no haylofts in cowbarns and all of that,

I can tell you that I would have a tough time finding any farmers around the area of Oklahoma I grew up in, that would have much in common with your views. Farms are just not hot breeding grounds for flaming liberals, not from what I have observed anyway.

Wow.. talk about not knowing the first thing about balers.
Adjusting the tightness of the baler is done with the baler NOT moving. The adjustments for that are on the BACK of a baler. If the baler isn't picking up hay which it can't if it isn't moving, then there isn't really anything moving at the back of the baler. It is possible to tighten the springs when the baler is in motion but you are more at risk of tripping and being run over by a trailer behind the baler. You can't really get any body part into the moving parts because the hay prevents it.

Your comments about the baler is a perfect example of why I say you worked 2 weeks on a farm. You talk about balers but have no clue as to how they operate. They are really pretty simple machines.

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You should know, that is if you are from South Dakota, that many of the Europeans that settled South Dakota and North Dakota, they also went on over into Montana. In fact, I had a relative from Denmark that went into Montana, and I have read about the Scandanavians settling in North and South Dakota as well. Oklahoma and New Mexico are much different in their cultural makeup, with Oklahoma having many indian tribes, plus settlers homesteading in the land runs of 1889 and 1893. In contrast, I believe New Mexico was settled earlier, primarily by the Spanish. Of course you have the Navajo as well as other tribes, including many pueblo indians in New Mexico, far different than Oklahoma.

You certainly know how to pretend you know stuff when you don't okie. Most of eastern South Dakota was settled by Germans.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_American
45% of South Dakotans claim German ancestry while only 21% of 27% of Montanans do. My great-grandfather came from Germany before homesteading in SD. The most common name in SD may be Schultz or Schwartz.

As for Scandinavian ancestry -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandinavian_American
It's 21% for SD and only 14% for Montana.
Even the tribes are different from Mt to SD. All of SD is the Sioux tribe while MT is mostly Crow and Blackfoot.

This is so typical of you okie. You feel you can extrapolate your one person you know to be the same as everyone while ignoring the reality.

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All I can tell you, parados, is that your opinions are pretty radical, especially for a farm kid. At least that is my opinion, and that is all I can offer you here.

All you ever offer is opinion okie. You certainly don't base anything on facts.

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Not only that, your claims about no haylofts in cowbarns and all of that,

It isn't my claim okie. It's pretty much a fact. No farmer would build a cow barn today with a hayloft. It would be stupid because you could never recoup the expense. I wonder about your claim to run a business because you don't seem to understand return on investment.

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I can tell you that I would have a tough time finding any farmers around the area of Oklahoma I grew up in, that would have much in common with your views. Farms are just not hot breeding grounds for flaming liberals, not from what I have observed anyway.

And yet reality shows you that SD elected George McGovern and Tom Daschle multiple times but that just doesn't seem to register with what you want reality to be so you just claim no farmer would ever be a liberal. I guess you are evidence that most farm kids are stupid, eh?