Obama '08?

Cycloptichorn wrote:

Lash wrote:

...that he's not running...? LOL

Nice non-answer.

You were ga-ga about Giuliani a while back iirc. Switched horses quick enough tho.

What positive platform issues are Republicans going to run on this cycle?

Cycloptichorn

Your completely erroneous statement about me "switching horses" is on par with all your other claims hereablouts.

What's going on with you? You've been talking to blatham too much.

nimh-- I am my own source on this. I feel like I know the general mood of the party, even when I don't necessarily agree with them. Sometimes, these things take a while to show up in polling. Nobody has hit McCain as a traitor hard, but wait until primaries. You'll see what I mean.

The Gang of 14 thing will have ramifications. People consider that he has screwed the party on more than one occasion. He's given ideological loyalists lots of ammunition.

But, as always, we'll eventually see.


Giuliani tops polls.

Nimh: "McCain win the Presidency? You wanna bet on that?"

I'm with you on that. No way will McCain win.

OCCOM BILL wrote:

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JPB hit the nail on the head. I too cared not a bit who Clinton slept with. I did care that the leader of our land disobeyed a Supreme Court order and lied to a grand jury about it. Giuliani won't suffer the same blowback, because he won't tell ridiculous lies. I agree that the GOP doesn't want him... but suspect they may be forced to admit he's there only hope by the time the day arrives. Unless something changes; no Bush clone has a shot and that would include Romney. McCain appears unlikely to regain his popularity, because of his flip-flopping. You here Liberals who've disowned him for his views on Abortion even as Republicans disown him for his views on Abortion. Some fences can't be straddled. He's given up the only cards that could get him forgiven for his War stance, and hasn't even succeeded in convincing the people he's pandering to. For now; that leaves Rudy... who'll hit you with "sorry you disagree, but that's how I feel... let's focus on what we can agree on". In my book he is like a third party candidate and the Right gets to choose between that and losing. Ideal situation if you ask me.

Wonderful response. I agree completely.

If we do, he'll (McCain will) win.

All he has to do is survive the primaries.

Cycloptichorn wrote:

OCCOM BILL wrote:

McCain is actually polling better that Giuliani right now. The was in response to "Even if that is true, they are all miles ahead of the Republican candidates - none of which has a clear and real shot of winning!" which is utter and COMPLETE nonsense. :wink:

He has no money and half the Republican party hates his guts. I really, really hope that they do nominate him. Really.

Cycloptichorn

If we do, he'll win.

All he has to do is survive the primaries.

Lash wrote:

Cycloptichorn wrote:

OCCOM BILL wrote:

McCain is actually polling better that Giuliani right now. The was in response to "Even if that is true, they are all miles ahead of the Republican candidates - none of which has a clear and real shot of winning!" which is utter and COMPLETE nonsense. :wink:

He has no money and half the Republican party hates his guts. I really, really hope that they do nominate him. Really.

Cycloptichorn

If we do, he'll win.

All he has to do is survive the primaries.

I thought you were talking about Rudy.

That was a lot of wrangling for such a mild comment.

Your intended subject wasn't clear.

I think McC is a fruit basket turn over.

PS, cyclo--

I apologize for being rude to you. I was a little frustrated with our conversation. I hope you'll overlook it.

Lash wrote:

PS, cyclo--

I apologize for being rude to you. I was a little frustrated with our conversation. I hope you'll overlook it.

I as well, sorry

Cycloptichorn

ps - I am happy we get along better these days. I've been working on moderating my tone, but it is difficult and one of my failings.

I think McC is a fruit basket turn over.

Monday April 9, 2007

Imus: "How about Senator Barack Obama raising twenty-five million dollars?"

Tim Russert, NBC News: "That's pretty interesting and for lots of reasons. One, it's a hundred thousand donors, half of those on the internet, which means that he has a guaranteed revenue stream from now until the end of the primary campaign process. What we learned about the internet is that when people give one-hundred, or one-hundred fifty dollars to a candidate they are a very fertile group to go back to on a regular basis, and you can give up to twenty-three hundred dollars. So, since his numbers were announced it appears he's raised a couple more million dollars because of the excitement generated by this announcement. Secondly, it appears that he has raised more for the primary campaign, and you have to have two accounts, one for the primary, and if you're the nominee one for the general, than perhaps Hillary Clinton in this latest go-round and we should know that on April 15th, and also cash on hand. He very well may have a very significant amount of cash on hand. Make no mistake about it, Hillary Clinton raised a lot of money too, but any sense of inevitability or of a coronation is over. Barack Obama is going to be a well-funded, extremely competitive candidate for the democratic nomination."

Imus: " I've had people tell me, who don't agree with him politically, and who are not, and who are not, patronizing him because he's an African American, tell me that they like him, so."

Tim Russert: "Well, it is something--you know, when you watch campaigns the way I try to I have not seen excitement, raw excitement generated by this in a long, long time. The size of the crowds, the enthusiasm of the crowds, and if you talk to college kids--you know my son happens to go to college, but you talk to college kids, no matter what they're ideology or political philosophy, they are intrigued by him. I had a young kid yesterday say to me that they were watching Tiger Woods play in the Masters, and there's an interesting notion that America in 2007, when you have Tiger Woods, who's African American and Asian American and you have Barack Obama with a white mom and a black dad and having grown up in Hawaii and lived in Indonesia that is--that has appeal to young Americans. It's an America that they're very comfortable with, and the fact that someone like that is running for President of the United States with a Harvard education, and the United States Senator of Illinois, I think really does connect with people."

(note sure why this is dated for Monday)

"I understand MSNBC has suspended Mr. Imus," Obama said in an interview with ABC News, "but I would also say that there's nobody on my staff who would still be working for me if they made a comment like that about anybody of any ethnic group. And I would hope that NBC ends up having that same attitude."

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