revelette
 
  1  
Wed 27 Oct, 2010 06:22 am
I am disappointed in the Obama administration when it comes to how they are dealing with the detainees and the rules that he is not only changing from the Bush administration but also going even further than Bush did.

The uniform issue also led to a scramble by the Obama legal team to rewrite commission rules on the eve of a hearing for Mr. Khadr.

I know that none of the other candidates would have done much different in this regard, but I expected much better from Obama given his statements before he became President.
djjd62
 
  1  
Wed 27 Oct, 2010 06:32 am
@revelette,
please feel free to keep mr. khadr, his family damaged him in childhood, you guys have damaged him through to adulthood, we don't want him back
revelette
 
  1  
Wed 27 Oct, 2010 06:44 am
@revelette,
Quote:
I am disappointed in the Obama administration when it comes to how they are dealing with the detainees and the rules that he is not only changing from the Bush administration but also going even further than Bush did.


I meant "rules that he is not only not changing..."
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revelette
 
  1  
Wed 27 Oct, 2010 06:47 am
@djjd62,
I am not sure how to reply to your post. From what I can see, Khadr was engaged in war for his side (just didn't have a uniform) on a field of battle. I would think you guys would want him back to get him out of our hands.
djjd62
 
  1  
Wed 27 Oct, 2010 06:48 am
@revelette,
if i'd had my way, i wouldn't have let the rest of the family back in Canada, i'd have stripped them of their citizenship
Advocate
 
  2  
Wed 27 Oct, 2010 07:35 am
@plainoldme,
plainoldme wrote:

I think it is time to not respond to ican. Simply ignore him or vote his posts down -- that serves as a great bookmark -- and continue to ignore him.


I suggested that a long time ago. He is a major spammer who never admits error.
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Advocate
 
  1  
Wed 27 Oct, 2010 07:36 am
@JPB,
JPB wrote:

I'm always baffled when one member tries to tell everyone else how they should (or shouldn't) interact with another member. You think it's time that everyone should ignore ican? Who the hell are you?


You have your orders. Now carry them out.
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H2O MAN
 
  -2  
Wed 27 Oct, 2010 08:26 am
@talk72000,
talk72000 wrote:



... the doctor is Barack Obama. The wounded man is the US economy.


The US economy will die on the operating table if Obama remains the doctor.
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H2O MAN
 
  -1  
Wed 27 Oct, 2010 08:27 am
@Advocate,
Advocate wrote:



Warren Buffet said that his secretary pays income tax at a higher rate than he does.


I bet most Obama democrats don't have a clue how that works.
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JTT
 
  1  
Wed 27 Oct, 2010 09:58 am
@djjd62,
Quote:
if i'd had my way, i wouldn't have let the rest of the family back in Canada, i'd have stripped them of their citizenship


One couldn't expect much more than this from an ignorant asshole?
H2O MAN
 
  -2  
Wed 27 Oct, 2010 10:05 am
@JTT,
JTT wrote:



One couldn't expect much more than this from an ignorant asshole?


What did PrezBO do now?
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djjd62
 
  0  
Wed 27 Oct, 2010 10:09 am
@JTT,
i don't believe that citizenship is sacrosanct even to those born in a country
JTT
 
  2  
Wed 27 Oct, 2010 10:29 am
@djjd62,
Quote:
i don't believe that citizenship is sacrosanct even to those born in a country


Then why aren't you out there making the same argument about the vast number of war criminals in the USA, the ones who, by their own admission, without having been brutally mistreated for what now, 8 years, have taken part in the butchering of millions?

Where do you propose to send the numerous US war criminals?

Again, the USA is the biggest hypocrite on the planet, so far ahead of anyone else that no one could ever possibly catch up.
ican711nm
 
  -2  
Wed 27 Oct, 2010 10:34 am
@parados,
2007………..….146 million [BUSH43] (Democrats become the majority in both houses of the Congress, and Bush goes a long with these Democrats to get along.)
2008………….. 145 million [BUSH43]
2009,……….....140 million [OBAMA]
2010.……………139 million [OBAMA] (as of September 2010 and not final year of term)

100% x (146-139)/146 = 4.7945205% or approximately 5%.

Shame on me! I incorrectly guessed that the job loss was approximately 10%!

It's obvious! That the approximately 5% private job loss caused the increase in the difference in average earned salary between the top and bottom of the private salary earners.
Cycloptichorn
 
  2  
Wed 27 Oct, 2010 10:51 am
@ican711nm,
Quote:
It's obvious! That the approximately 5% private job loss caused the increase in the difference in average earned salary between the top and bottom of the private salary earners.


It absolutely, 100% does not. I would remind you that this gap GREW during the last 8 years, in a period in which job losses were not a significant factor in personal wealth. You are asserting a falsehood.

Cycloptichorn
djjd62
 
  1  
Wed 27 Oct, 2010 11:09 am
@JTT,
as of now my government doesn't think like i do, i'm only saying how i feel, it's not likely i could ever persuade the Canadian government to see my position, there are however a few politicians here i'd see jailed for treason (at least one conservative and a couple of liberals), and treason is one crime i'd advocate stripping citizenship for
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ican711nm
 
  1  
Wed 27 Oct, 2010 01:49 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Cycloptichorn wrote:
It absolutely, 100% does not. I would remind you that this gap GREW during the last 8 years, in a period in which job losses were not a significant factor in personal wealth. You are asserting a falsehood.

Yes, during the 27 year period 1980 to 2007, the income gap grew as businesses hired more people, became larger, and became more profitable. However, since 2007, the income gap has grown far more rapidly as businesses became smaller, hired fewer people, and became less profitable. Particularly during the years 2008 t0 2010, the rapidly increasing size of the gap is due mostly to increasing unemployment. A private salary of zero is of course far less than a salary of $60,000 let alone a salary of several hundred thousand.

I, with an income of less than $50,000 per year, am happy and thankful for those business owners and investors whose incomes grow, because their businesses hire more people, become larger, and become more profitable. Such business owners and investors help us all including employees, other businesses, and our economy to grow.

Attempts to close the income gap by government redistributing wealth will serve at best to make private businesses shrink, hire fewer people, and become less profitable. The only people who are made better off--for a while--by such attempts are those in government seeking to make their power over other humans grow.

Quote:
ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/suppl/empsit.cpseea1.txt
Year……TOTAL US CIVIL EMPLOYMENT
1980……………..99 million [CARTER]
1988…………… 115 million [REAGAN]
1992…………….118 million [BUSH41]
2000……………137 million [CLINTON]
2007………..….146 million [BUSH43]
2008………….. 145 million [BUSH43]
2009,……….....140 million [OBAMA]
2010.……………139 million [OBAMA] (as of September 2010 and not final year of term)


parados
 
  2  
Wed 27 Oct, 2010 02:11 pm
@ican711nm,
Quote:
Shame on me! I incorrectly guessed that the job loss was approximately 10%!

Gosh.. you were only off by a little more than 100% ican.

(10-4.78)/5 x 100 = 104%

Perhaps you should stop guessing and actually find out the facts before you make statements.
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parados
 
  1  
Wed 27 Oct, 2010 02:12 pm
@ican711nm,
Quote:
However, since 2007, the income gap has grown far more rapidly as businesses became smaller,

You shouldn't guess ican. It only makes you look stupid.
plainoldme
 
  0  
Wed 27 Oct, 2010 05:06 pm
@JTT,
Quote:

That is chickenshit beyond belief, POM. If you don't have the cojones necessary to address him, then don't take the childish approach.


No,it is not. When I was in elementary school, children were taught to ignore those who behave as ican does here. It is not chicken-****, but, rather adult behavior. Were ican waving a gun, were he someone with a modicum of power, than the better part of valor would be to fight him. As it is, he is a less than logical, poorly educated man, who may not be totally sane, who writes inane things under a pseudonym.

The adult thing to do is to ignore him.

Ignoring him is akin to the Biblical advice to turn the other cheek and akin to forum advice to not feed the trolls.
 

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