plainoldme
 
  0  
Wed 27 Oct, 2010 05:08 pm
@JPB,
Quote:
I'm always baffled when one member tries to tell everyone else how they should (or shouldn't) interact with another member. You think it's time that everyone should ignore ican? Who the hell are you?


It looks like you are the same person I am.

I am offering an adult alternative.

How many participants here have written asking other posters not to feed the trolls? THere is no difference between what I wrote and that request, and neither is telling anyone else what to do.
plainoldme
 
  0  
Wed 27 Oct, 2010 05:11 pm
Thanks to rabel22 and advocate.
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JTT
 
  2  
Wed 27 Oct, 2010 05:13 pm
@plainoldme,
Quote:
The adult thing to do is to ignore him.


That's one choice, that an adult or a child for that matter, can make. If you recall, the portion of your quote that I selected had nothing to do with ignoring someone.

I specifically selected "voting someone down". Children are not taught to taunt someone anonymously, for very good reason. That is what is chickenshit.

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JTT
 
  2  
Wed 27 Oct, 2010 05:15 pm
@plainoldme,
Quote:
I am offering an adult alternative.


Exhorting the crowd to burn the witch is not an adult alternative.
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spendius
 
  1  
Wed 27 Oct, 2010 05:21 pm
But, according to Evelyn Waugh, ignoring what others say is the only way the educated elite in the USA can get along with each other. He considered it a generous trait that nobody expects to be listened to.

I certainly don't. I'm just giving my ego a good frigging.
JTT
 
  1  
Wed 27 Oct, 2010 05:25 pm
@spendius,
Quote:
ignoring what others say is the only way the educated elite in the USA can get along with each other.


Don't know about them, Spendi, but it's surely the only way the people can get along with their consciences.
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ican711nm
 
  0  
Wed 27 Oct, 2010 05:39 pm
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LEFTIST LIBERAL SELF DEFENSE ignore their opposition
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H2O MAN
 
  0  
Thu 28 Oct, 2010 06:49 am
Poll: Most Want Obama Fired In 2012

revelette
 
  2  
Thu 28 Oct, 2010 07:57 am
@H2O MAN,
It's a tea party poll.

Presentation of Tea Party Poll Results
H2O MAN
 
  0  
Thu 28 Oct, 2010 08:27 am
@revelette,
And it reflects how the majority of Americans feel.
JPB
 
  1  
Thu 28 Oct, 2010 09:45 am
@rabel22,
Hello. Have we met?
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squinney
 
  1  
Thu 28 Oct, 2010 10:45 am
@parados,
parados wrote:

Quote:
However, since 2007, the income gap has grown far more rapidly as businesses became smaller,

You shouldn't guess ican. It only makes you look stupid.


No kidding. That reasoning is so bassackwards it took several readings for me to even try to understand the mind twists required to try to justify the reasoning.

If a business becomes smaller, it doesn't pay the % more to its top executive that we have seen in income disparity of the wealthy. It can't because it isn't doing as much business. It is smaller.

Having fewer people employed, which is what Ican seems to mean by businesses becoming smaller, does not mean the executive now making 10 million as compared to 500,000 X number of years ago, is now doing the job of all of the people laid off and therefore deserves all of the extra pay.

The disparity is not because the number of people in the bottom income levels has become greater due to businesses paying higher tax rates and having to lay people off, become smaller. If that were the case, the $ amounts paid to the top tier would not have jumped as it has... unless you believe the executives are now doing the factory floor jobs of all the unemployed, and are working their manicured fingers to the bone 36/7.
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revelette
 
  1  
Thu 28 Oct, 2010 11:02 am
@H2O MAN,
No it does not. It reflects 56% out of 1000 "likely voters." Probably was conducted in friendly tea party groups.
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okie
 
  1  
Thu 28 Oct, 2010 11:07 am
One proposed solution:
Eliminate all income tax for businesses and corporations. At the same time, institute higher marginal tax rates for individuals, the details and numbers could be argued about and worked out, but perhaps about 2.5% on anything up to 50K, 5% on 50K to 100K, 10% on 100K to 150K, 15% on 150K to 200K, 20% on 200 to 300K, 30% on 300 to 400K, 40% on 400 to 500K, 50% on 500K to 1 million, and 75% on everything after that.

Remember also that we are already paying 15% of our income for social security and medicare. If we don't pay it, the employer does, but I would propose ending the payments by employers, it should all come from employees, the entire 15%.

I would favor instead a national sales tax and total elimination of all income tax entirely, but given the fact that we probably will never agree upon that, my next best solution to hopefully satisfy the liberals would be the above. At least it would tax the bejeebers out of their entertainment buddies in Hollywood, and it would cut down on some of the abuse by executives in corporations and sports stars making obscene salaries.
parados
 
  1  
Thu 28 Oct, 2010 11:09 am
@okie,
Why haven't you proposed going to the JFK tax structure? You seemed to like what he said just not the tax structure? Huh.. that seems like you were using him for partisan purposes okie.
okie
 
  1  
Thu 28 Oct, 2010 11:16 am
@parados,
I agreed with his basic premise in regard to lowering tax rates to increase the economy and tax revenues, but that does not mean I endorse every single number of the tax rates during his tenure. In fact, I don't even know what they are.
JPB
 
  1  
Thu 28 Oct, 2010 11:19 am
Obama on Jon Stewart's Daily Show last night.

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-october-27-2010/barack-obama-pt--3?xrs=eml_ral
okie
 
  1  
Thu 28 Oct, 2010 11:31 am
@JPB,
I watched the whole thing, almost gagged, but I made it. Is there any question this man is in way over his head?

By the way, his "21st Century regulatory regime," is there any question this man is a dictator wannabe?
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parados
 
  1  
Thu 28 Oct, 2010 11:36 am
@okie,
okie wrote:

I agreed with his basic premise in regard to lowering tax rates to increase the economy and tax revenues, but that does not mean I endorse every single number of the tax rates during his tenure. In fact, I don't even know what they are.

If you don't know what the tax rates were then how can you agree with him? You aren't agreeing with him at all okie. You are merely trying to make his words agree with you.
okie
 
  1  
Thu 28 Oct, 2010 11:40 am
@parados,
JFK stimulated the economy by lowering tax rates, parados. Did you not know that? I thought you knew more history than you apparently do? I also favor that action when I feel that tax rates are overburdensome and are dampening the economy from what it could be.
 

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