Obama '08?

They're like heroin . . . totally bad for you and totally bad for society but addictive.

is bad for you? I may have to do some rethinking. Next you'll be telling me Freud didn't use cocaine nor did he prescribe to to his patients.

It was that naughty Mauve Decade.

ican says:

That's probably because you haven't posted anything rational to rebut, ican.

Or, maybe its because the half-dozen things he posts over and over and over and over again have put us to sleep and we are ignoring his rants.

soporific, aren't they? if you really want to take an afternoon nap, there's nothing like an ican post to put you to sleep quickly.

YOU FAILED TO RATIONALLY REBUT ANY OF THIS FOLLOWING PREVIOUS POST OF MINE.

PRESIDENT BARACH OBAMA HAS UNLAWFULLY:

(1) taken private property from those persons and from those organizations who have lawfully earned it, and given it to those persons and organizations who have not lawfully earned it.

(2) exercised the authority of his office to take private property for public use in violation of the Fifth Amendment of the United States Constitution, which guarantees to the People that “private property shall not be taken for public use without just compensation,” and without “due process of law.”

(3) interfered with the management of private companies for the purpose of achieving government control of them, in violation of the Fifth Amendment of the Constitution.

(4) interfered with the economic rights of the people by imposing unreasonable impairments in the fulfillment of their intended contractual obligations, and their ability to enter into such contracts.

(5) attempted to change our fundamental economic system from one governed by the rule of law to one governed by presidential dictate.

(6) signed an unconstitutional health care bill that is not authorized by any power of Congress enumerated in the Constitution, not even by a very expansive reading of the power to regulate commerce among the several states.

(7) signed an unconstitutional health care bill that violates the Tenth Amendment by requiring state governments to force their citizens to purchase medical insurance they do not want to purchase.

(8) signed an unconstitutional health care bill that violates the Ninth Amendment by forcing state governments to force their citizens to be denied rights that are retained by the people.

(9) used public money to purchase private companies.

(10) given our public money to a foreign state to finance their state-run oil company while refusing to allow us to develop our own oil resources.

(11) violated the balance of powers among the Congress, the Judiciary, and the Presidency by appointing, without congressional approval, so called Czars with far reaching powers who are accountable to no one but himself.

(12) funded his election campaign with foreign contributions.

(13) permitted the justice department to implement a policy to not prosecute any civil rights or voting rights violations if perpetrated by a black or blacks against a white or whites.

Yes! I did not call for his impeachment at that time, because Congress had unlawfully delegated to President Bush the power to decide whether or not to wage war with Afghanistans and Iraq.

None the less, I should have called for Bush's impeachment at that time.

I'm scheduled to be perfect next Tuesday, but I'm way, way, ... way behind schedule.

Your arguments aren't rational to begin with ican.


You assume taxation is illegal. That not only violates the Constitution but it also violates court rulings on taxation.
I suggest you read the 16th amendment ican711. It makes income taxes legal under ALL circumstances.

Not only did you not call for his impeachment ican. You praised him for doing what he did. This isn't about you being perfect ican. This is about you realizing that you let your politics interfere with your rational thinking.

ican is capable of rational thinking? News to me!

You haven't made the points, ican, you've only asserted them. for the most part it's simply not true that they are against the Consitution or are crimes. they simply are not. They rely on right-wing fringe readings of law which have never had any validation legislatively or judicially. Which means basically that you';re just going round in teeny-tiny circles.

That claim about "rational thinking" from none other than the king apologist for radical and liberal Democrat politicians, chiefly Obama, and their lousy policies. It would be humorous if not so sad, Parados.

SO.. okie, do you think the income tax is illegal like ican does?

Do you think that someone that praises someone for their logic also despises the same action they just praised?

The best answer I can give is that I am aware that some believe the beginning of collecting income tax including the 16th Amendment were unconstitutional, but frankly I do not know all the legal arguments. I personally believe we have to tax ourselves in some way to pay for the government that our lawfully elected politicians have chosen to create with our permission, but at the same time I also believe much of the government that has been created and thus needs to be paid for, it has grown far beyond what has been constitutionally mandated.

I think our government has over reached far beyond what is constitutional, but I also believe the best remedy for that is to elect politicians that will repeal unnecessary laws and eliminate unnecessary bureaucracies that will reduce our tax burdens, rather than refusing to pay income tax. Do I have much realistic hope for that happening, no I do not, but count me as one that will vote whatever hopes that I do have every chance I get. In the meantime, I will continue to pay my hefty tax bill, and complain along with it.

okie, Believe it or not, the congress spends money as it is "mandated" to do so.

Listening to the 'tribute' to the late Senator Stevens, Republican from Alaska, on NPR this morning, it was obvious that Stevens cared not one whit about the budget or the economy, just for pork for Alaska.

While there is nothing wrong with taking care of your constituents -- after all, that is what government is about -- what is wrong is the hypocrisy of the AMerican right. Me, me, me! Talk about giving money to people who did not earn it, ican's favorite carp! Talk about big government!

I often think rational conservative and intellectual conservative are oxymorons. It is pretty obvious that honest conservative is as well.

There are no legal arguments on how the 16th amendment can be unconstitutional. The Constitution clearly states that all amendments are part of the Constitution. No sane person can argue that the Constitution is unconstitutional.

On their way to jail, a number of tax protestors have claimed that the tax system is unconstitutional. It is amazing that this crazy theory lives on.