realjohnboy
 
  1  
Tue 15 Jun, 2010 04:13 pm
The President speaks tonight, in about 2 hours.
Will you be watching?
What do you hope/expect to hear?
Irishk
 
  1  
Tue 15 Jun, 2010 04:22 pm
@realjohnboy,
I'm wondering if he'll keep calling it "British Petroleum" instead of just BP.
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okie
 
  -2  
Tue 15 Jun, 2010 04:27 pm
@djjd62,
djjd62 wrote:

but he was still a politician, ie: scumbag of the highest order
Bush is no scumbag, in fact the man had class that Obama will never dream of having. Not only that, Mrs. Bush brought class to the Whitehouse that has not been seen since by the current First Lady.
Cycloptichorn
 
  -1  
Tue 15 Jun, 2010 04:28 pm
@okie,
okie wrote:

djjd62 wrote:

but he was still a politician, ie: scumbag of the highest order
Bush is no scumbag, in fact the man had class that Obama will never dream of having. Not only that, Mrs. Bush brought class to the Whitehouse that has not been seen since by the current First Lady.


LOL

Right, right. What about him screams 'class?' Nothing at all.

Cycloptichorn
okie
 
  -1  
Tue 15 Jun, 2010 04:32 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Cycloptichorn wrote:

Right, right. What about him screams 'class?' Nothing at all.

Cycloptichorn

You, the guy that thinks a rat or a worm has as much value as a human being, would not know class if you saw it, cyclops. Hang your head in shame, cyclops.
roger
 
  1  
Tue 15 Jun, 2010 04:33 pm
@realjohnboy,
No television, but I'm sure I'll hear all about it.
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Cycloptichorn
 
  1  
Tue 15 Jun, 2010 04:38 pm
@okie,
okie wrote:

Cycloptichorn wrote:

Right, right. What about him screams 'class?' Nothing at all.

Cycloptichorn

You, the guy that thinks a rat or a worm has as much value as a human being, would not know class if you saw it, cyclops. Hang your head in shame, cyclops.


There's a non-answer if I ever saw one. Why don't you stick to the topic at hand instead of attempting Ad Hominems against me? What about Bush says 'class' to you?

I am really saddened that you don't have the intellectual depth to comprehend my equality of life argument, by the way, Okie. It isn't difficult to understand but you've really managed to blow it.

Cyclotpichorn
okie
 
  0  
Tue 15 Jun, 2010 04:47 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
The truth hurts, doesn't it, cyclops? Seriously, Bush had more class, and still does than Obama will ever dream of having. Class implies a few things, like respect for human life, honesty, courage, and commitment to moral principles like freedom and liberty, and these are all things that Obama simply doesn't have, nor do you, and perhaps that is why you are so emotionally attached to Obama and will continue to defend the monumental failures of his presidency, no matter how low you will have to go.

I realize the last couple of posts have been hard hitting and brutally honest, but I think its time that decent Americans stand up to the pathetic Left in this country that have little moral grounding and want to drag the country down to nothing.
Cycloptichorn
 
  1  
Tue 15 Jun, 2010 05:03 pm
@okie,
okie wrote:

The truth hurts, doesn't it, cyclops?


That doesn't have much to do with your post, but I've never been afraid of the truth, Okie.

Quote:
Seriously, Bush had more class, and still does than Obama will ever dream of having. Class implies a few things, like respect for human life


Bush has no respect for human life. None. He threw countless lives away with his foolish invasion of Iraq, both American and Iraqi. He didn't give a ****.

Quote:
honesty


Snort, he lied as often as he opened his mouth. Just like all politicians. Only you believe differently.

Quote:
courage


Yeah, so courageous, he faced down tons of bad guys while doing a difficult half-tour in the Texas Air National guard. Real ******* courageous.

Quote:
and commitment to moral principles like freedom and liberty


This from the guy who said he didn't mind Dictatorships - as long as he was the dictator? Who cozied up and made pals with the Prince of Saud - a dictator!

Quote:
and these are all things that Obama simply doesn't have, nor do you, and perhaps that is why you are so emotionally attached to Obama and will continue to defend the monumental failures of his presidency, no matter how low you will have to go.

I realize the last couple of posts have been hard hitting and brutally honest, but I think its time that decent Americans stand up to the pathetic Left in this country that have little moral grounding and want to drag the country down to nothing.


Do you know what, Okie? You are not a decent American. You are a hateful person who has done everything he can to turn his political opponents into demons.

Damn near everything you espouse is bullshit. You use words like 'freedom' when what you really mean is greed. That's what you believe in more than anything else.

You have no clue what a hard-hitting post is, if that's what you think you're doing.

Cycloptichorn
Finn dAbuzz
 
  0  
Tue 15 Jun, 2010 05:03 pm
@realjohnboy,
What I want to hear:

"I'm sorry this thing has been screwed up to a fair-thee-well, and I said I was responsible from Day One, and the buck stops here, so I have no choice but to do the honorable thing and resign"

What I expect to hear:

"I know everyone is mad, hell, I'm mad. I'm mad at BP, I'm mad at Republicans, I'm mad at George Bush. It's all their fault. Them and those bastard insurance companies and those Tea Party schmucks because you have to believe they had their hands in this mess.

But don't worry, I got it covered.

First I'm going to kick the ass of that Limey SOB who runs BP, and if I have to I'm going to shove him down the leaking pipe. God, but I hate those imperialistic Anglo-saxons. It's their fault my father left me and my mother. Didn't they get the message when I send back the bust of their fat bulldog hero and gave their PM and even their effin Queen those cheesy gifts?

Next I'm going to take over BP, just seize all of its assets and give them to ACORN to pay all your claims. How they gonna stop me? Send Dr Who after me?

Then I'm going to take about a trillion in tax dollars and spend it on federal programs to replace fossil fuel energy with windmills and a solar panel that covers the entire state of Arizona - damned racists don't deserve to be Americans.

Finally, I'm going to nationalize the auto industry, health insurance, and student loans - Wait? Didn't I already do that?

In closing, stop listening to all those damned Talking Heads who want to make me look bad. You know I'm your guy. I stood out in the rain with fisherman for Chrissakes! Next time some pollster calls you to get your opinion on how I'm doing, remember I'm the one you were waiting for, and that the good looking Beatle loves me!

God bless me, and God bless me again. "
djjd62
 
  2  
Tue 15 Jun, 2010 05:04 pm
@okie,
don't get offended, it's nothing personal against bush

he was/is a politician, therefore he was/is a scumbag, same as obama, same as palin, same as clinton (mr. & mrs.), same as every politician who ever lived or will live, the sooner the rubes figure out the carnies run the midway, the better you'll all feel about things
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Cycloptichorn
 
  -3  
Tue 15 Jun, 2010 05:07 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
You're a sad ******* person, John.

Cycloptichorn
realjohnboy
 
  1  
Tue 15 Jun, 2010 06:20 pm
A very short speech.
Obama did not talk about kicking BP's ass.
He mentioned the ongoing effort to clean up the damage in the Gulf.
He devoted a lot of the 18 minutes to reducing dependence on fossil fuel.

That is what I heard. How about yall?
Butrflynet
 
  1  
Tue 15 Jun, 2010 06:26 pm
@realjohnboy,
There's a question and answer session with Robert Gibbs following Obama's speech. Here's a link to the live stream which is supposed to begin in about 5 minutes or so.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/live/open-questions-robert-gibbs-takes-public-s-questions-bp-oil-spill
realjohnboy
 
  1  
Tue 15 Jun, 2010 06:28 pm
@Butrflynet,
Thanks B'net.
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Cycloptichorn
 
  0  
Tue 15 Jun, 2010 06:31 pm
@realjohnboy,
realjohnboy wrote:

A very short speech.
Obama did not talk about kicking BP's ass.
He mentioned the ongoing effort to clean up the damage in the Gulf.
He devoted a lot of the 18 minutes to reducing dependence on fossil fuel.

That is what I heard. How about yall?


That is what I heard, and that is the long term solution; so.

Cycloptichorn
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Butrflynet
 
  1  
Tue 15 Jun, 2010 06:34 pm
@realjohnboy,
BP-related points from the speech:

He will instruct BP officials “set aside whatever resources are required to compensate the workers and business owners” harmed by the Gulf oil spill, and he named Navy Secretary Ray Mabus to develop a long-range plan to “restore the unique beauty and bounty of this region.”

Obama said he had asked Secretary Mabus, a former Mississippi governor, to consult with states, local communities, tribes, fisherman, business owners and conservationists to develop a plan as quickly as possible.

“Make no mistake: we will fight this spill with everything we’ve got for as long it takes,” Mr. Obama said. “We will make BP pay for the damage their company has caused. And we will do whatever’s necessary to help the Gulf Coast and its people recover from this tragedy.

Obama promised that BP would soon accelerate its cleanup. In the coming days, he said, the company will be able to capture up to 90 percent of the oil leaking out of the well.

He outlined his plans to revamp the Minerals Managemnt Service, the agency in charge of overseeing oil drilling, and he named Michael R. Bromwich, a seasoned investigator and former Inspector General of the Justice Department, to take the lead in that effort.
realjohnboy
 
  1  
Tue 15 Jun, 2010 07:19 pm
@Butrflynet,
The Gibbs' thing was interesting. I am always a bit perturbed about how politicians tend to say something like "We are going to be studying..."
Gibbs, like President Obama, talked about alternative energy. That is great but it strikes me as a deflection from the current reality.
One question caught my ear. Early on in this spill, countries like Norway, Iceland, perhaps even Russia, offered their expertise but were dismissed as having nothing to offer. Arrogance. Expensive arrogance, perhaps.
roger
 
  2  
Tue 15 Jun, 2010 07:26 pm
@realjohnboy,
I seem to recall in the Katrina aftermath, Sweden I believe, offered to sent a mobile water purification plant. I guess we didn't need that, either.
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Butrflynet
 
  1  
Tue 15 Jun, 2010 07:33 pm
@realjohnboy,
Quote:
One question caught my ear. Early on in this spill, countries like Norway, Iceland, perhaps even Russia, offered their expertise but were dismissed as having nothing to offer. Arrogance. Expensive arrogance, perhaps.


At the time, based on the early estimates from BP on the amount of oil that was erupting from the site, the Administration probably thought that the offers of aid from other countries would be overkill and there would be too many cooks in the soup trying to mop up a small spot of oil.
 

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