Obama '08?

Cycloptichorn wrote:

okie wrote:

Questions again for any liberal. So far, none can muster the spine to answer them. Cyclops started to try, but pretty much faded out, when asked for details.

I didn't 'fade out;' I answered all the questions you asked of me.

Not satisfactorily. You admit you are to the left of Obama, in your opinion, but the last question I posed - assuming Obama was in fact a Marxist at heart, on the scale of 0 to 10, how concerned would you be? I do not recall an answer.

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Which, I should point out, are stupid questions to begin with, loaded questions which serve nothing more than to forward your idiotic viewpoint that Obama is some sort of 'socialist,' when his actions make perfectly clear that he is not.

Stupid questions according to you, because you are uncomfortable in answering them, you are put on the spot and challenged to openly answer the questions honestly.

An open and honest person that is proud of their political beliefs should have no problem answering them. In fact, many many people believe Obama is "some sort of extreme socialist,"

and so this gives you the chance to disagree with that, and to defend your reasons with valid evidence. I am merely asking for an honest answer, to try to better understand where you stand politically, and why. The questions I ask are immensely pertinent, and they are questions that every responsible voter should be able to answer.

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you persist in this because you have a deep-seated insecurity about Obama, and feel the need to express it through constant condemnations of him.

Cycloptichorn

I have no deepseated insecurity

but call it what you want, I do openly and honestly confess that I have a deep seated distrust of Obama, a man that I perceive as having never been open and honest about his true political beliefs. However I am beginning to more and more see this trait as a trait that is common to extreme leftists, it is difficult to get the full and honest answers out of them. The example of my questions not being answered at all or incompletely here, that is a great example of that trait.

"...assuming Obama was in fact a Marxist at heart,...

Did you read the bill?
From the way its worded, it could include any water on my property, including the artificial pond I had built.
Since when is what I do on my land the govts business?

The Obama administration is locked into a perpetual campaign mode and one tactic is to say
whatever they think opponents want to hear... this includes lying about any and everything.

You will notice this tactic when they stand in front of a TV camera and profess that they are not
or will never do a certain thing knowing full well that they are and will do what they say they won't.

The Obama administration is using Smoke & Mirrors and Slight of Hand to hide the truth.

mysteryman wrote:

Did you read the bill?
From the way its worded, it could include any water on my property, including the artificial pond I had built.
Since when is what I do on my land the govts business?

Since the water which is on your land seeps into the groundwater, which seeps into the drinking water. You don't have the right to be a polluter, even on your own property, because you cannot contain that pollution. Actions you take on your own land which impact other people most certainly are the government's business.

Could you provide some examples of this lying, etc., by Obama. I have not seen this at all.

Could you provide some examples of this lying, etc., by Obama. I have not seen this at all.

Obama is compromising the future of this republic right before your eyes and you can't see it.

you can't provide any evidence for your claims.

WHO KNOWS where "0" is getting all this additional money he's bribing with..... Taxes and more taxes, into perpetuity, I guess. -dp

Subject: BEN NELSON - NE

Just wanted to make sure your blood pressure doesn't drop! This (alleged) bribe has secured his vote. -sn

The White House and Democrat Leadership in the Senate has [threatened] Senator Nelson they will close every military base in Nebraska [if he doesn't vote for ObamaCare] " a threat that is not credible, really " but they have also offered Senator Nelson between $300 million to $500 million in earmarks, according to key Hill healthcare operatives. These hundreds of millions will be available for whatever he wants to spend them on in Nebraska.

Given Senator Nelson’s hard core earmarking history as an appropriator, the word on the street is that this is the real carrot that could get Nelson to agree to some cover amendment that would allege to protect the innocent unborn from government funding of abortion, but, in fact, would not.

H2O MAN wrote:

The Obama administration is locked into a perpetual campaign mode and one tactic is to say
whatever they think opponents want to hear... this includes lying about any and everything.

You will notice this tactic when they stand in front of a TV camera and profess that they are not
or will never do a certain thing knowing full well that they are and will do what they say they won't.

The Obama administration is using Smoke & Mirrors and Slight of Hand to hide the truth.

Could you provide some examples of this lying, etc., by Obama. I have not seen this at all.