Obama '08?

@H2O MAN,

The only question is which one is which? You know, H2OMAN, when Obama picked the goofy Biden, I had to wonder why, but I concluded then and I still believe he wanted somebody that would be a stooge that he wanted in that office, somebody that was totally clueless. Somebody that had more sense could cause him trouble in his agenda that he wanted to try.

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@okie,

There was no one more goofier than Sarah Palin for VP in the whole history of our country. She believes she has foreign experience because her state is between two foreign countries. How goofy is that?

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If ci ever had the golden opportunity to meet face to face with Palin he would surely pee his pants.

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Barack Obama, he covets the wealth of others, he lies about what others have said and done, and what he intends to do and has done, and he steals from those who he says have more and gives it to others he says have less.

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The Ten Commandments, Exodus 20:1 " 20:14

And God spoke all these words, saying:

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Thou shalt not steal.

Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.

Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s house; thou shall not covet thy neighbour’s wife, nor his man servant, nor his maid-servant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor anything that is thy neighbour’s.

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@okie,

Questions again for any liberal. So far, none can muster the spine to answer them. Cyclops started to try, but pretty much faded out, when asked for details. Instead, teeny launches into accusations of conservatives of things like draft dodging, even accusing Palin of being a draft dodger, now that was one I hadn't heard yet, that one is very bizarre. teeny needs to get a grip.

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What I am trying to determine here is what you liberals here actually believe about Obama. Is it A or B, as I have described in the following. This is not a test, but it is an effort to get you to answer honestly, and then we can discuss the answers as to what they mean about you.

A. Obama's associations, past history, comments, change mantra, and so on and so forth, they all mean nothing at all, he is really a centrist and has no leanings toward radical socialism.

or

B. You think his associations, past history, comments, change mantra, etc. do indicate he has sympathies toward radical socialism, but since you have similar sympathies, you therefore endorse him and will continue to do so.

Further, let us assume for the sake of discussion that there is in fact indisputable evidence recognized by everyone that Obama has strong sympathies toward Marxism and perhaps would like to incorporate facets of that idealogy in the United States? Let us assume for the sake of discussion here that this has been determined to be the case almost for sure. Cyclops, would that bother you? On a scale of 0 to 10, with 0 being you would have absolutely no concern whatsoever, to perhaps 5 being moderately concerned, and a 10 would be hey, lets vote the man out next election this is very serious, I do not want someone in office with those beliefs, what number between 0 and 10 would you be? And teeny, what number would you be?

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@okie,

okie wrote:

Questions again for any liberal. So far, none can muster the spine to answer them. Cyclops started to try, but pretty much faded out, when asked for details.

I didn't 'fade out;' I answered all the questions you asked of me.

Which, I should point out, are stupid questions to begin with, loaded questions which serve nothing more than to forward your idiotic viewpoint that Obama is some sort of 'socialist,' when his actions make perfectly clear that he is not.

You persist in this because you have a deep-seated insecurity about Obama, and feel the need to express it through constant condemnations of him.

Cycloptichorn

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This is scary, and one hell of a land grab by this administration, if it passes...

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/12/14/private-property-clean-water-restoration-act/

And here is a copy of the bill in question

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h110-2421

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@H2O MAN,

H2O MAN wrote:

If ci ever had the golden opportunity to meet face to face with Palin he would surely pee his pants.

and she no doubt would rub it all over herself and jump into a deer blind

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@okie,

So much for nuance.

There are many more choices than the two you've presented. So sad for you that you can only conceive of such limited choices.

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@mysteryman,

mysteryman wrote:

This is scary, and one hell of a land grab by this administration, if it passes...

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/12/14/private-property-clean-water-restoration-act/

And here is a copy of the bill in question

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h110-2421

What exactly is 'scary' about this?

If you have water on your land, and you dump evil **** in it, it affects others over time. It seeps into the groundwater, pollutes rivers, streams, runoff. It's the government's job to make sure that you don't **** up and affect me. How is this a problem?

Cycloptichorn

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@mysteryman,

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Fox News' Shannon Bream takes a fair and balanced look at the controversy in a three-part series.

Thanks for the laugh....

If they have to state at the beginning that it's "fair and balanced", it's pretty much guaranteed to be neither.

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@DrewDad,

DrewDad wrote:

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Fox News' Shannon Bream takes a fair and balanced look at the controversy in a three-part series.

Thanks for the laugh....

If they have to state at the beginning that it's "fair and balanced", it's pretty much guaranteed to be neither.

Too right!

I also thought the lede was funny -

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Upwards of 40 percent of all land in the United States is already under some form of government control or ownership -- 800 million to 900 million acres out of America's total 2.2 billion acres.

I wonder how many of those acres are desert? My guess is, half or more.

Cycloptichorn

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@Cycloptichorn,

THE SKY IS FALLING!!! THE SKY IS FALLING!!!

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@rabel22,

Most are probably national parks and grazing land.

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There should be some redistribution of wealth. Teddy Roosevelt carried this out, and possibly saved the country from massive discord. Wealth is wildly concentrated in a small number of families in the USA. It is even worse in Mexico, where the result is massive emigration, wide-spread poverty, high crime rate, etc.

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@Advocate,

There's an interesting article in today's WSJ about how officers of companies did not lose out on their 401k's in w008 based on guarantees they received from their companies while the workers for their company lost from 18% to over 30%.

If we must wonder why the middle class and poor are getting the shaft, it's obvious from the stock trades made by the officers and honchos of companies who "earn" millions of dollars in one trade while their workers struggle to keep their jobs. Add to that the guarantees they get on their 401ks.

Greed works at all levels at the top, and since they have all the power, the production workers see their wages stagnate in the world of inflation.

It's no different under Obama.

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@Cycloptichorn,

Cycloptichorn wrote:

I wonder how many of those acres are desert? My guess is, half or more.

Cycloptichorn

What difference should that make? Duh?

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@okie,

okie wrote:

Cycloptichorn wrote:

I wonder how many of those acres are desert? My guess is, half or more.

Cycloptichorn

What difference should that make? Duh?

Are you serious?

Why do you give a **** if the government owns acre after acre of Nevada desert? It isn't exactly commercially usable land. Nobody is being hurt by the government owning that land.

Cycloptichorn

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@Cycloptichorn,

Cycloptichorn wrote:

okie wrote:

Questions again for any liberal. So far, none can muster the spine to answer them. Cyclops started to try, but pretty much faded out, when asked for details.

I didn't 'fade out;' I answered all the questions you asked of me.

Not satisfactorily. You admit you are to the left of Obama, in your opinion, but the last question I posed - assuming Obama was in fact a Marxist at heart, on the scale of 0 to 10, how concerned would you be? I do not recall an answer.

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Which, I should point out, are stupid questions to begin with, loaded questions which serve nothing more than to forward your idiotic viewpoint that Obama is some sort of 'socialist,' when his actions make perfectly clear that he is not.

Stupid questions according to you, because you are uncomfortable in answering them, you are put on the spot and challenged to openly answer the questions honestly. An open and honest person that is proud of their political beliefs should have no problem answering them. In fact, many many people believe Obama is "some sort of extreme socialist," and so this gives you the chance to disagree with that, and to defend your reasons with valid evidence. I am merely asking for an honest answer, to try to better understand where you stand politically, and why. The questions I ask are immensely pertinent, and they are questions that every responsible voter should be able to answer.

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you persist in this because you have a deep-seated insecurity about Obama, and feel the need to express it through constant condemnations of him.

Cycloptichorn

I have no deepseated insecurity, but call it what you want, I do openly and honestly confess that I have a deep seated distrust of Obama, a man that I perceive as having never been open and honest about his true political beliefs. However I am beginning to more and more see this trait as a trait that is common to extreme leftists, it is difficult to get the full and honest answers out of them. The example of my questions not being answered at all or incompletely here, that is a great example of that trait.

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@Bi-Polar Bear,

Bi-Polar Bear wrote:

H2O MAN wrote:

If ci ever had the golden opportunity to meet face to face with Palin he would surely pee his pants.

and she no doubt would rub it all over herself and jump into a deer blind

You're projecting again ... I guess BI-Bear is into that sort of thing...

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