Obama '08?

I merely speak the truth, they are not insults, but accurate descriptions.

Obama has a legacy that can be described and talked about, it should be common knowledge and something that he should be able to justify and defend. But he is not an open book, the man is cryptic, and that is why he is not to be trusted. That is not an insult, that is an honest opinion based upon real facts. I do not hate the man, but I do resent the fact that the man can have friends that are former terrorists and Marxists, and nobody thinks it is fair to point that out. The record is not made up, the man created his own track record, but it is his supporters that again want to interpret it as hatred, which is total and absolute crap, cyclops, and I think you know it.

It does speak a lot about your insecurities regarding the fellow, I must say.

Cycloptichorn

It is more than associations, cyclops, it is a pattern of tendencies.

Associations do mean things. Birds of a feather flock together, didn't you ever learn that?

this is not a matter of eating in the same restaurant as a Marxist, it is being close friends with, being mentored by them, admiring them, and assciating with them in various kinds of ways which clearly indicates a relationship of similar thinking. It is a clear situation of connecting dots, significant dots, quite a few dots.

Bulllllllll. I am very secure and very comfortable in my beliefs. It is Obama and his minions that have gone way out there into left field, and you are an example of someone that is supporting a very shaky and tenuous administration that does not deserve much confidence in what they are doing.

Is that your opinion or a consensus? Every time I respond someone brings in the word "racism". I urge you to wiki it, then look at the word "bigotry".
opinion, i know full well what the word means, i also know you're not gonna do away with it, i think it plays apart in obama's story, but it's not the be all and end all

#1 Barack Obama is generally thought of as "African-American" or Black. He IS in the truest since of the word an African-American and I don't have to define why.
no argument

#2 Blacks who descended from slave owners are also called African-Americans, but since most of us don't know which tribe we were taken from, call ourselves, Black.
no argument

#3 Right-winged/conservatives or whatever you call yourself are/were anti Barack Obama for various reasons but were careful never to refer to his "race".
granted, i'm sure some dislike him for his race, can't change it, never will, but it's his ideology as much anything that most object to, they fear what they think is socialism, you can't believe that folks don't want what he's pushing (and on healthcare i'm behind you 100%), but they don't

First, you wanted to SEE his birth certificate but no one else was asked, even though McCain, the Republican was born in the Canal-Zone of Panama, OUTSIDE The continental US, even though Hawaii where Obama was BORN is part of the United States, the 50th state in 1959. So WHO is the REAL American?
never wanted to see his birth certificate, could care less, pre 9/11, the isssue wouldn't exist, at least not in the guise of "he's a secret muslim", i mean sure you still have the whole born a citizen thing, but ti'm not even sure of that, let' say you elected governor arnold as president, you think he'd hand the US over to the Austrians?

Palin is NOT a native of Alaska, the 49th state and can't tell anyone what she reads! That's because she DOESN'T, (read, that is). All she is, is an EX-beauty queen, a college failure, forget how many schools SHE attended, compared to Obama, Occidental in California, Columbia and Harvard, ALL he graduated from.
who ever the republican candidate or winner is next time, democrats are going to dislike or disagree with them, i think it's the new way of politics,

You righties, don't want to "expose" your TRUE feelings, even though Obama possesses knowledge of at least 3 languages and a sterling educational background, when Bush's grades come from his rich father padding Yales pockets with cash to get his dumb ass through!
i quite like obabma as a person, and i think he's trying to do some good things, but not things that most americans are going to feel comfortable with now or perhaps never

Chris Rock said it best, "when you're white, it's alright"!
chris rock has said some very funny things, some of them about black people as well

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2051527/posts
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Partial History of U.S. Federal Income Tax Rates
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1971-1981: 15 tax brackets; min= 14%; max =70%
1982-1986: 12 tax brackets; min = 12%; max = 50%
1987-1987: 5 tax brackets; min = 11%; max = 38.5%
1988-1990: 3 tax brackets; min = 15%; max =33%
1991-1992: 3 tax brackets; min = 15%; max = 31%
1993-2000: 5 tax brackets; min = 15%; max = 39.6%
2001-2001: 5 tax brackets; min = 15%; max = 39.1%
2002-2002: 6 tax brackets; min = 10%; max = 38.6%
2003-2008: 6 tax brackets; min = 10%; max = 35%

Hey cyclops, I have a question, and to teeny as well if she cares to answer, or any other Obama supporter here for that matter.
What I am trying to determine here is what you liberals here actually believe about Obama. Is it A or B, as I have described in the following. This is not a test, but it is an effort to get you to answer honestly, and then we can discuss the answers as to what they mean about you.

A. Obama's associations, past history, comments, change mantra, and so on and so forth, they all mean nothing at all, he is really a centrist and has no leanings toward radical socialism.

or

B. You think his associations, past history, comments, change mantra, etc. do indicate he has sympathies toward radical socialism, but since you have similar sympathies, you therefore endorse him and will continue to do so.

Further, let us assume for the sake of discussion that there is in fact indisputable evidence recognized by everyone that Obama has strong sympathies toward Marxism and perhaps would like to incorporate facets of that idealogy in the United States? Let us assume for the sake of discussion here that this has been determined to be the case almost for sure. Cyclops, would that bother you? On a scale of 0 to 10, with 0 being you would have absolutely no concern whatsoever, to perhaps 5 being moderately concerned, and a 10 would be hey, lets vote the man out next election this is very serious, I do not want someone in office with those beliefs, what number between 0 and 10 would you be? And teeny, what number would you be?

I see no liberal has yet had the courage to answer the questions I posed.