Obama '08?

Both answers are clearly yes, though I'm sure you understand that I don't consider my positions to be 'radical.'

I would have done a variety of things differently than Obama; and practically everything I would have done is to the left of what he actually did. Believe me, I've been plenty pissed at the guy over the last several months, as he takes these namby-pamby centrist positions...

Because I answered your questions, please respond in kind: what actual actions has Obama taken, which are 'radical socialist' in any fashion?

Are you sure you aren't exaggerating slightly, for effect, Okie? I think you will have a hard time naming anything.

Cycloptichorn

So, let us explore this, do you consider extreme socialism radical? Is communism or Marxism radical? is Fascism radical?

Please answer my question to you, before we move on with the conversation; it's only polite to match an answer with an answer.

Cycloptichorn

Okay, here goes. I do not think that Obama has been able to do a whole lot that is radical socialist. However, I believe that Obama believes in the practice of incrementalism, by instituting policies that will lead closer to more radical possibilities, and also by instituting policies that have "triggers" embedded into them, which will trigger further regulatory and legislative action that will lead closer to or be in fact more radical in the future.

With that said, although I recognize that Republicans, including Bush started the ball rolling with TARP, and taking over the car companies, and all of that, I view those things as not necessarily all the way radical, but definitely in the leftward direction, toward more radical government, and Obama has taken advantage of those things to go in the direction he would like. As government becomes more heavy handed and in bed with corporations, it becomes more fascist like. I also believe Obama wants to do more along those lines, obviously, with his control of the medical insurance industry, the medical industry as a whole, etc. I also think a takeover of more control of the energy industry is in the works and definitely on the horizon, and cap and trade was one piece of that puzzle that he is working on. We are also aware of initiatives in the planning stage or stage of formulation, in regard to the press, talk radio, and things like that.

Hey, Obama has not been in office long enough to institute all of his agenda, and we have institutions that oppose him being able to do all of it, starting with Congress, the people, the constitution, etc.

So a quick answer would have been he hasn't been able to do that much, but that does not mean he doesn't want to do alot more and will not try to do a whole lot more, and could do alot more if not opposed and prevented from it at every turn.

I forgot to mention also that he is most assuredly hoping and planning to try to shore up his re-election chances to be as ironclad as possible, and that might not work out, but anyway that is a part of the formula for him to be able to enact much more of his radical agenda that I believe he has in his head, by the end of 8 years or even longer, instead of just 4 years. Actually, I think there are grounds to impeach the man now, but it would never happen.

Please list out for us all of Obama's "radical agenda?"

All of PrezBO's agenda is radical and dangerous.

black comedian patrice oneal said he hoped that obama became all of white americas nightmare, he would have loved to see him take the oath dressed in traditional african garb and one hand one the bible and the other turning a spit, roasting a white baby

i guess he got his wish, sort of, he's certainly become some american's worst nightmare, of course so was the previous guy, and the one before that, and the one before that and.........

PrezBO is well on his way to earning the distinction of being the worst president in American history.

i'm sure america will go on long enough for there to be somebody worse

jeb bush might run

Frankly, I am certain that Obama has had associations with people on the right. Thus, I don't trust him at all. He may be a Manchurian candidate planted by the right.

Advocate, I'm sure you have better imagination than that! Maybe, that'll include Palin and several other conservatives who congratulated Obama on his speech in Stockholm. LOL

If he had lots of associations on the right and if his policies and campaign promises were in fact much more conservative, and if I thought he was a credible person, I would in fact have voted for him, but I would probably no longer support him, for lots of reasons, including the fact that he has appointed several tax cheats and radicals. If he had appointed reasonable and law abiding citizens, and if he was not pushing a socialistic agenda as he is now, I probably would still be supporting him.

Hey, okie, you ever hear about the catholic church? They had many priests who molested and raped children, and those who attend that church still support their "leaders" who hid these atrocities from their members and the world.

Shouldn't you be trying to destroy the Catholic church now? They have by association also are molesters and rapers of children, even after they learned of those sins. When are you going to begin destroying this dangerous organization?

No, it is Massagat. If you have any cojone and do not urinate in your trousers when you are challenged, like most limp wristed lefties, you can ignore evidence, but, I always said that liberals had no intellect only emotion.

Do you have any evidence to back up your claims, djjd2? What has President Obama done since he has been in office? Please point out his successes. Please give a rationale for the fact that his Job Approval Rating has fallen from Eighty to just below fifty percent in eleven short months. Please tell us how the incredibly expensive stimulus plan has put millions back to work. Please explain how some of the feedback regarding alleged job creation has been found to be bogus. Please tell us why the Health Plan is not sailing through Congress EVEN THOUGH THE DEMOCRATS CONTROL BOTH HOUSES. Please let us know why the Copenhagen Congress on Global Warming is proving to be a total mess and a defeat for the Obama initiative. Please let us know why Obama's choices in Virginia and New Jersey were steamrollered by new Republican governors. Instruct us as to why many Democrats currently in the Senate and House are trailing in the polls which predict November 2010's outcomes.

I'll bet that as a clueless liberal, you are not even able to address three of the questions above.

If you can't don't waste the space printing absurdities which have no relation to the points at hand..How about some evidence and documentation rather than meaningless diatribes?

Okie, You do HATE Obama. You must HATE Obama. Because you have criticized his policies. The liberals have tossed their race card at you. But, don't worry about the emotional liberals who have no argument except emotion. You are in good company since the American People, just eleven short months after Obama was elected, disapprove of his Job Performance. Keep posting with statistics, facts and documentation.

Cyclops wrote:

In that case, everything bad said about Republicans is also an accurate description. See how that works?

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Absolutely illogical, as usual. Charges are not viewed as factual unless proven.

An accurate description? Do you really want an accurate description?

What about a Gallup Poll which shows that eleven short months after the presidential election, over half of the populace is negative about his Job Approval.

I know you won't answer this, Cyclops, because you are afraid of me, but others will read it.

I am not sure that Cyclops has done much reading. He obviously is unaware that President Obama, as a community organizer in Chicago, worked for an organization whose philosophy and tactics were directly based on the writings of Saul Alinsky.

Now, it is possible that President Obama was completely intellectually untainted by working with such a group, however, I certainly do not think that anyone running for President for the Republicans could run if he had had ANY CONNECTIONS with the "Federalist Society" But, such strictures could not be applied to President Obama. Even if he worked for a Saul Alinsky group, that was not important because, he was the Messiah. And if you didn't believe that, why, you were just a racist!

no lib here
i'm an equal opportunity hater (or disliker) here

if anything i was calling out the folks who are calling the conservatives haters, because of obama's race, i stated i'm sure some feel that way, i'd be willing to bet that some democrats had race issues if they were being completely honest

i addressed the post to teeny, and if you'd followed the flow you'd see that i was making my own opinions known and the topic had nothing to do with what obama has done in office or how i feel or what i know about his accomplishments, it was about the alleged conservatives feelings towards him on race, country of origin and qualifications

if you must know i've agreed with others on this forum that i believe him to be a failure, and think he's probably gone in 2012, at which point we'll start this **** all over agin with the conservatives saying "our guys great" and the democrats saying "your guy sucks"

looking forward to it, i loves me some pissing and moaning