Obama '08?

@Gargamel,

Speaking of using the same puns over and over again.

Hope and Change ... Yes we can.

Bumper sticker slogans that herded the American sheeple right into the slaughter house.

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@teenyboone,

teenyboone wrote:

You just described the whole Bush Administration!

I described both the covetous Bush administration and the covetous Obama administration.

Obama clearly covets far more than Bush. But that's irrelevant. We have stopped being governed by the Bush administration. We have been governed by the Obama administration for only 10 months and his coveting IS costing our country dearly.

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@Gargamel,

My party? What party is that?

Anyway... see post # 3,839,174

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You liberals must be super proud of Americas 1st National Community Organizer.

http://www.foxnews.com/images/root_images/120809_obamapollfix_20091208_111527.jpg

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@Gargamel,

Gargamel wrote:

Youf found a SINGLE uninspiring speech, made by a man who gives at least ten of them per day?

It is more than uninspiring, it is creepy, by a guy with a creepy agenda. It must be stopped.

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@okie,

okie, Did you know you're more creepy than most in this country? You make more claims than any insurance company receives in a year without having paid any premium (evidence).

Obama talked about stimulating the economy by encouraging small businesses to hire - with tax cuts and other subsidies, the extension of COBRA, and public works investments. The republicans complained that it's more spending, but they don't provide any solution for the 15-million Americans now jobless.

The No Party is still at it, and I just wonder if those 15-million Americans will be voting for any republican in 2010?

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@okie,

okie wrote:

Gargamel wrote:
Youf found a SINGLE uninspiring speech, made by a man who gives at least ten of them per day?

It is more than uninspiring, it is creepy, by a guy with a creepy agenda. It must be stopped.

Agreed! Obamaisim is a cancer and it must be cut out of the body.

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@Cycloptichorn,

Cycloptichorn wrote:

You need to come up with another stupid acronym, Ican, the one you have doesn't apply to me.

The word "covet" is not an acronym. The word "coveter," a person who "covets," is not an acronym.

You are a coveter whether or not you are willing to admit it or not, because you covet what others have. You desire that those who have more than you have less. You are a coveter whether or not you want what others have for yourself or for others. You are a coveter whether or not you personally take away what others have or you support candidates for government office who pledge to do that for you. You are a coveter whether or not you personally take away what others have or you support a government that does that for you.

God's Tenth Commandment: "Thou shalt not covet ... anything that is thy neighbour’s."

Yes, you are a Goddamn coveter!

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@ican711nm,

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You are a coveter whether or not you are willing to admit it or not, because you covet what others have.

No, I do not covet what others have. I don't know how much clearer I can be with you on this issue.

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You desire that those who have more than you have less.

I have different opinions of tax policy than you, yes. But that doesn't mean that I covet 'what the rich have.'

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You are a coveter whether or not you want what others have for yourself or for others. You are a coveter whether or not you personally take away what others have or you support candidates for government office who pledge to do that for you. You are a coveter whether or not you personally take away what others have or you support a government that does that for you.

None of this logically follows. If I 'coveted' what the rich have, that would mean I wanted what they currently have. I don't, not for myself and not for others. I just have a different opinion of tax policy than you - and I would add that my beliefs about tax match our country's actual policies, whereas yours most certainly do not.

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God's Tenth Commandment: "Thou shalt not covet ... anything that is thy neighbour’s."

Yes, you are a Goddamn coveter!

You're just looking to call people names, because you have reached a point where your arguments have been exhausted. Nobody agrees with your arguments on taxation in either party; nobody is representing your views nationally. You can call people whatever you like, but it's better to face reality: we have a tiered, redistributive tax system here in America, and taxes on the wealthy ARE going up from their current historical lows.

So, you keep calling people names; and I'll keep watching the tax policies I support continue unabated. And which one of us, do you think, will be happier at the end of the day? Laughing

Cycloptichorn

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@ican711nm,

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Obama clearly covets far more than Bush.

Well clearly Obama is at least part negro ergo has more to covet than Bush.

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@H2O MAN,

H2O MAN wrote:

You liberals must be super proud of Americas 1st National Community Organizer.

Due in no small part to the mess left by that ree-ree with the 86% under his ugly mug.

Again, while I realize your intellectual faculties are limited, lining the current President up next to his predecessor who, at the same time during his tenure was riding America's raging poast-9/11 I Love Uncle Sam hard-on, is stupid. Bush probably thanks Baby Jesus each night for 9/11, as he would have been even more clueless as to what to do with four whole years in that great big Oval Office otherwise.

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@Gargamel,

Gargamel, Any idiot would know that comparing those three past presidents to Obama is like comparing apples and kumquats. There is absolutely no comparison for people who really understands how GW Bush destroyed our country - and many other developed countries.

It just goes to show that conservatives are all deaf, blind, and speak with forked tongue.

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@Gargamel,

Gargamel wrote:

Due in no small part to the mess left by that ree-ree with the 86% under his ugly mug.

Due in no small part to overcoming the mess left by that Fat Frat Boy with 52% under his ugly womanizing mug.

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@Cycloptichorn,

Cycloptichorn wrote:

What do you look at, and see Palin winning? What data points are informing your opinion? Or is it just a case of wishful thinking in a vacuum - there really isn't anyone else right now, the only viable candidate I can see coming along is Marc Rubio, and he's not ready yet.

I look at the crowds that have turned out to hear Sarah Palin speak. I look at her speeches. I look at her performance in a city council, governing a town and subsequently governing a state. I look at her book, "Going Rogue."

I then look at the crowds that have turned out to hear Barak Obama speak. I look at his speeches. I look at his performance in the US Senate, governing a ??? and subsequently governing a ??? and subsequently governing our country. I look at his books, "Audacity of Hope," and "Dreams of My Father."

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@ican711nm,

Your "looking" just proves how blind you are!

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Obama was manufactured and sold to the dumb masses. He is a tool.
He is not his own man, he is working on behalf of those that created him not for those that voted for him.

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@Cycloptichorn,

You are a coveter whether or not you want what others have for yourself or for others. You are a coveter whether or not you personally take away what others have or you support candidates for government office who pledge to do that for you. You are a coveter whether or not you personally take away what others have or you support a government that does that for you.

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Cycloptichorn wrote:

No, I do not covet what others have. I don't know how much clearer I can be with you on this issue.

The clarity of your statements is not relevant. It is the truth of your statements that is relevant. Your statements that you do not covet are false.

I have different opinions of tax policy than you, yes. But that doesn't mean that I covet 'what the rich have.'

You most certainly covet what the rich have, because you want the rich to be taxed at a higher rate than they are now taxed. That results in taking away that which the rich will lawfully earn and giving it away to others who will not lawfully earn it.

If I 'coveted' what the rich have, that would mean I wanted what they currently have. I don't, not for myself and not for others. I just have a different opinion of tax policy than you - and I would add that my beliefs about tax match our country's actual policies, whereas yours most certainly do not.

Because you want the rich to pay taxes at a higher rate than they are currently taxed, you are coveting the rich. Yes, your opinion is different from mine. You covet what the rich will earn and I do not.

we have a tiered, redistributive tax system here in America, and taxes on the wealthy ARE going up from their current historical lows.

A tiered, redistributive tax system is a covetous tax system. A tiered, redistributive tax system that increases its tiered, redistribution of taxes is also a covetous tax system.

You are a coveter whether or not you want what others have for yourself or for others. You are a coveter whether or not you personally take away what others have or you support candidates for government office who pledge to do that for you. You are a coveter whether or not you personally take away what others have or you support a government that does that for you.

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@ican711nm,

Basically, your opinion is that I am covetous, because you say so. This is a false position which I reject, and just a sad attempt on your part to make everyone fit into your worldview, which cannot conceive of motivations other than greed.

Cycloptichorn

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@Cycloptichorn,

Cycloptichorn wrote:

Basically, your opinion is that I am covetous, because you say so. This is a false position which I reject, and just a sad attempt on your part to make everyone fit into your worldview, which cannot conceive of motivations other than greed.

Cycloptichorn

ican is onto something here with the covetous business. Cyclops, Democrats started the whole thing about greed, and in fact that is how many of the despots and dictators come to power, they accuse capitalists of greed, and your own hero, Obama loves to talk about greed of businesses, corporations, and people that earn it, but it is you and the liberal Congress, and Obama that are trying to rob the people of what they have earned, to give it away to their voters to earn more votes so that they can maintain power. I say ican is absolutely correct. It is the Democrats that are greedy and covetous of money and of power. They want to take away our rights and liberties so that they can exert more power over the people. And it also involves taking away peoples money so that they can give it away to their voters that will vote for their ability to gain and maintain office or power.

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@okie,

okie, How many times must I repeat myself? You are an idiot; Obama has included TAX CUTS in his stimulus plan. You really don't know anything, do you?

From the WSJ:

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* JANUARY 5, 2009

Obama Eyes $300 Billion Tax Cut

By JONATHAN WEISMAN and NAFTALI BENDAVID

WASHINGTON -- President-elect Barack Obama and congressional Democrats are crafting a plan to offer about $300 billion of tax cuts to individuals and businesses, a move aimed at attracting Republican support for an economic-stimulus package and prodding companies to create jobs.

The size of the proposed tax cuts -- which would account for about 40% of a stimulus package that could reach $775 billion over two years -- is greater than many on both sides of the aisle in Congress had anticipated. It may make it easier to win over Republicans who have stressed that any initiative should rely more heavily on tax cuts rather than spending.

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