Obama '08?

@Cycloptichorn,

Cycloptichorn wrote:

...debates between her and Obama would be an absolute slaughter.

Obama without his teleprompters would make for an absolutely easy kill. Advantage Palin.

@H2O MAN,

teenyboone wrote:

Can you spell H-A-R-V-A-R-D?

Good for you, you spelled that word correctly

Me:
Your answer SHOULD have been "Obama, Harvard Law Review"! THAT'S why his speech is so eloquent; not some "cowboy" cutting brush or fell on his head from chewing pretzels! One of the "fairy" tales Bush told after he got sloppy drunk on the RANCH!

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@cicerone imposter,

ci wrote:

Big difference; Palin is now a known quantity after her run in 2008. Obama was mostly known only in IL with much less national exposure without much potential outside of it.

Sounds remarkably like my sentiments on Hillary Clinton a four years ago...who was far more of a "known quantity" then Palin. If Hillary can turn herself from a conniving, ruthless, polarizing and ultra-leftwing feminist into a respected Senator and statesman over a few years, then there is no reason to feel Palin won't be able to do the same. In 2003 (according to this ABC Poll), only 44% had a favorable opinion of Hillary while 48% had unfavorable. But Hillary ended up doing pretty alright for herself despite the slings and arrows of the right. No reason to think Palin can't do the same.

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@teenyboone,

Thank you for telling me what my answer SHOULD have been, how very LIBERAL of YOU!

You SHOULD be ashamed of Obama and his dismal job performance, even his speeches are boring.

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@H2O MAN,

Dismal? He's the best President since Clinton. Now go fix my toilet, Kevin--I gave you your twenty dollars.

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@slkshock7,

You really don't have any clue about intelligence do you?

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@Gargamel,

Gargamel wrote:

Dismal? He's the best President since Clinton.

Best at doing what?

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@H2O MAN,

H2O MAN wrote:

You SHOULD be ashamed of Obama and his dismal job performance, even his speeches are boring.

His speeches have always been boring. Amazingly, the press trumped up his DNC speech as something wonderful, which shows something. What it shows is not that it was a good speech and that Obama is really an inspiring powerful speaker, because he is not, but it does show that the mainstream media can trump something up and there are alot of helpless dupes out there that will swallow the line. They are unable to think for themselves in a coherent manner. Obama can lie and smooth talk his way through a boring speech, and the people will swallow it, meanwhile the guy is a socialist and radical that never did anything notable in his life besides organize Chicago, whatever that means. We have found out part of what it means, it means using corrupt organizations like ACORN to register fictitious voters and win elections, also to get government money for your slumlord friends housing projects after they help you gain office, and after they get your wife a big paying job for a hospital that requires no work.

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@okie,

I always thought his speeches were quite inspiring. But now that you've said otherwise, I've changed my mind.

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@Gargamel,

PrezBO's speeches are specifically designed to inspire the dumb masses, people that can't or are unwilling to think for themselves.
These people are also known as sheeple.

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj93/Blacquenhard/Barack%20Obama/SHEEP.jpg

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@slkshock7,

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Sure she can do it.... Yes, she's misspoken (and been misinterpreted) and the left has and will continue to make hay of those gaffes. But so has Obama, Biden, and every other politician that's out there. Difference right now is that her polls are going up, while pretty much every other politician on the national scene is watching theirs go down.

Her polls are going up because she's on a book tour media spree. She's not currently active in politics so it's easy to see why people would have a more favorable view of her. Also, she's getting off the bus with her Downs Syndrome baby in her arms. A very impressive performance.

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At this point, it wouldn't seem that she needs to do anything, her polls are going in the right direction and momentum is building anyway. Of course remains to be seen if they keep moving upward...but foregoing any major gaffe or new scandal, she's on the right path. The mood of the country is changing rapidly against the Dems. If Obama can't turn things around she will be able to take a page from his book in 2012 i.e., lean heavily on her right-leaning base and ride to the presidency on a wave of discontent from those in the center.

I agree, her current tour keeps her visible and for now it's enough. I don't agree with you that she'll be able to do it on momentum alone. The only way she'll be able to win the presidency is if she tones down the maverick thing and starts to be more disciplined in her approach. That means reaching out beyond the hard-core base and swaying the more moderate Republicans and conservative Democrats. She's shown no sign of wanting to do that, yet.

I don't get a sense she's too curious about much beyond her world. Bush Junior set the standard for this, so in this sense, I guess a president no longer has to be well-rounded to get elected.

If she wins the presidency, whether it's in 2012 or another time, it will be the Democrats fault, I agree with you there.

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@H2O MAN,

H2O MAN wrote:

Cycloptichorn wrote:
...debates between her and Obama would be an absolute slaughter.

Obama without his teleprompters would make for an absolutely easy kill. Advantage Palin.

Did you hit your head after the 2008 elections?

Obama had many debates in the primaries and in the general election where he proved himself quite capable without a teleprompter. Unless you want to argue that everyone running for President in 2008 would be killed by Palin in a debate. Something I think even you can't believe.

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@slkshock7,

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If Hillary can turn herself from a conniving, ruthless, polarizing and ultra-leftwing feminist into a respected Senator and statesman over a few years,

So.. Hillary was elected to the Senate and served as a Senator where she earned the respect of those she worked with and the media that cover politics..

Palin is doing a book tour where 500-1000 adoring people show up and demand her autograph.

I don't really see much of a comparison there slkshock. Palin isn't doing anything that could earn the begrudging respect of those that disagree with her.

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@H2O MAN,

every politicians speeches are designed to inspire the dumb masses

in recent years, the conservatives did with fear of the "enemy", the liberals did with hope of free stuff, who wins depends on what the dumb masses want more

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@parados,

Were you in a drug induced coma in 2008 - PrezBO sucked back then and he sucks now.
The media never let the masses see the "not ready for prime time" side of him.

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@Cycloptichorn,

Cycloptichorn wrote:

In short, I don't understand what makes you think that she could win, at all.

If Palin decides to lead what is now called the Tea Party she or their nominee could win easily.

Tea Party outpolls Republicans

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@Gargamel,

Gargamel wrote:

I always thought his speeches were quite inspiring.

I think that says more about you than it does his speeches, when you can call a boring speech inspiring. Not only are they boring, they are highly irritating for his ignorance and talk of his dictator wannabe proposals, such as here:

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@okie,

Holy ****! Youf found a SINGLE uninspiring speech, made by a man who gives at least ten of them per day? Congratulations!

And I'm sorry I can't give you the ten minutes you wasted looking for that video back.

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@H2O MAN,

And intelligence consists of using the same puns--i.e."dumb masses," and "sheeple" (how original!) over and over, then posting some lameass picture you got from cockwipe.com, and then making a housecall to assisst some asshole whose water isn't exactly perfect.

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@H2O MAN,

H2O MAN wrote:

Were you in a drug induced coma in 2008 - PrezBO sucked back then and he sucks now.
The media never let the masses see the "not ready for prime time" side of him.

2008? Was that the year YOUR PARTY LOST the election, due to years of ineptitude and an often illegal and unamerican agenda?

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