Gala
 
  1  
Thu 3 Dec, 2009 09:22 am
@okie,
Quote:
Nazis were fascists, and more akin to liberal than they were conservative. They were big government all the way, seizing private property, nationalizing industries, government public works, not far from what Obama is doing right now.

Obama and Nazis, right. The last time I checked Obama was not only seizing private party he was demanding the gold crowns from the mouths of Wall St. employees. All those not in compliance were executed on the spot.
okie
 
  -1  
Thu 3 Dec, 2009 11:05 am
@parados,
parados wrote:

Quote:
What is clear is that the 9/11 Commission report totally discounts the Sudanese claims. Unless further evidence arises, that has to be the final word.

http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_bill_clinton_pass_up_a_chance_1.html

Boy... we wouldn't want to take the word of the 9/11 commission over okie..

Parados, there is alot of evidence he was offered to us, but then again if you wish to believe later parsing of his own words by a man that made that a common practice, such as once talked about the meaning of the word, "is," then of course you will defend any Democrat, regardless of the overwhelming common sense conclusion of the matter. As George said, your debate style requires the discarding of common sense at times, and I think that this is clearly a clearcut case of that. Also, the problem that the 9/11 Commission also has is that we can actually go to the evidence ourselves and make common sense judgements by connecting the obvious dots alot better than a few partisan hacks who had high on their list as defending their own lousy party even when the guilt was obvious. The chance for Clinton to get Osama Bin Laden is but one example, another huge one was Jamie Gorlick who whitewashed the fact that she was involved in "the Wall," which hindered the sharing of intelligence between agencies, which also can be traced to our failure of identifying the conspirators. And Obama is now repeating one of the basic mistakes made by Clinton leading up to 9/11, terrorists were treated as garden variety criminals instead of enemy conspirators or terrorists as they should be. Such is not only stupid, it defies common sense, so I have to wonder if Parados is any different than alot of liberals including those making policy in the Whitehouse right now, they lack basic common sense about alot of things, including the economy, terrorism, energy, climate, and the list goes on.

The only way to straighten this out is to have enough people to see the light so that this bunch will be thrown out of office next election.
H2O MAN
 
  -1  
Thu 3 Dec, 2009 11:34 am
@Gala,
Gala wrote:

Quote:
Nazis were fascists, and more akin to liberal than they were conservative. They were big government all the way, seizing private property, nationalizing industries, government public works, not far from what Obama is doing right now.

Obama and Nazis, right. The last time I checked Obama was not only seizing private party he was demanding the gold crowns from the mouths of Wall St. employees. All those not in compliance were executed on the spot.


You have seen the future.
djjd62
 
  1  
Thu 3 Dec, 2009 11:39 am
@H2O MAN,
H2O MAN wrote:

Gala wrote:

Quote:
Nazis were fascists, and more akin to liberal than they were conservative. They were big government all the way, seizing private property, nationalizing industries, government public works, not far from what Obama is doing right now.

Obama and Nazis, right. The last time I checked Obama was not only seizing private party he was demanding the gold crowns from the mouths of Wall St. employees. All those not in compliance were executed on the spot.


You have seen the future.


as long as they're wall street employees, i don't see the problem
okie
 
  0  
Thu 3 Dec, 2009 11:52 am
@djjd62,
djjd62 wrote:

as long as they're wall street employees, i don't see the problem

It will be a problem when its you, wherever you work.
djjd62
 
  1  
Thu 3 Dec, 2009 11:55 am
@okie,
well sure, but until then, have at it
okie
 
  0  
Thu 3 Dec, 2009 11:57 am
@djjd62,
So it doesn't matter as long as its somebody else, is that it?
djjd62
 
  2  
Thu 3 Dec, 2009 12:00 pm
@okie,
it doesn't matter, since it's just part of your paranoid delusion, if you must know the truth

i'm not a huge fan of fascists in real life

i do however have a particular hatred for bankers (lawyers and politicians as well)
H2O MAN
 
  -1  
Thu 3 Dec, 2009 12:04 pm
PrezBO is the master of creating the illusion the he is actually doing something.
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cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Thu 3 Dec, 2009 12:05 pm
@okie,
okie, You are always not only blind to facts, but have the skill to be inconsistent in your claims and opinions. If Clinton had a chance to get Osama bin Ladin, then what happened to Bush's eight years in office after Clinton? Bush changed the target from Afghanistan/Pakistan to Iraq to start his illegal war, and took troops out of Afghanistan to send more troops and equipment to Iraq. You forget all these facts to spread your bull ****.

Since you can blame Clinton, you give a pass to Bush? Where's your common sense?
0 Replies
 
dyslexia
 
  1  
Thu 3 Dec, 2009 12:07 pm
@okie,
Bill Clinton was the best republican president of the 20th century.
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old europe
 
  1  
Thu 3 Dec, 2009 12:10 pm
@okie,
okie wrote:
Also, the problem that the 9/11 Commission also has is that we can actually go to the evidence ourselves and make common sense judgements by connecting the obvious dots alot better than a few partisan hacks [...]


That's exactly the argument the 9/11 truthers are making....
okie
 
  0  
Thu 3 Dec, 2009 12:12 pm
@djjd62,
djjd62 wrote:

it doesn't matter, since it's just part of your paranoid delusion, if you must know the truth

i'm not a huge fan of fascists in real life

i do however have a particular hatred for bankers (lawyers and politicians as well)

Hatred for bankers? What kind of nuttiness is that? I happen to like bankers, honest ones, after all I trust them with my money so that I can write checks and all of the other convenient services they offer. Bankers are every bit as valid as you are I would bet, I have no idea what you do, but would you appreciate people hating you for no logical reason, would you? Same with lawyers and politicians, we need them, but we need honest ones, and I think we would do better with them both if we did not combine them as often, in otherwords we do not need as many lawyer politicians, because we have completely overdone the numbers of laws and the types of laws that we now have, probably because we have way too many lawyers elected to office. We instead need more economists, business owners, engineers, geologists, and all manner of other professions in our government so that we could achieve more balance and common sense to the way we are governed.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Thu 3 Dec, 2009 12:16 pm
@okie,
okie trusts bankers who have been raising all sorts of rates to keep your money in their banks. Banks pay very low interest rates on savings, and consumers pay very high rates on loans.

Yeah, okie trust bankers. There's no cure for stupid.
0 Replies
 
okie
 
  -1  
Thu 3 Dec, 2009 12:18 pm
@old europe,
old europe wrote:

okie wrote:
Also, the problem that the 9/11 Commission also has is that we can actually go to the evidence ourselves and make common sense judgements by connecting the obvious dots alot better than a few partisan hacks [...]


That's exactly the argument the 9/11 truthers are making....

But common sense is required, not simply claimed, oe, you must have forgotten that? You need to be a sensible person with common sense, not a whacko. I do not tend to believe whackos, I hope you don't. For example, I think we all saw the planes fly into the towers, didn't you? And in regard to Bin Laden, we do have Clinton on tape, on record, for what happened, and so its sort of like the planes, we saw them, and we also heard Clinton, it is an indisputable part of the record, as is what Jamie Gorlick did, and as to how terrorists were treated by the Clinton administration as criminals instead of terrorists. Sorry oe, but history is history, that is the point, and so you can attempt to rewrite it but some of us still remember the facts.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Thu 3 Dec, 2009 12:22 pm
@okie,
Don't you understand yet, oe? You're a whacko who lacks common sense. End of argument.
0 Replies
 
dyslexia
 
  2  
Thu 3 Dec, 2009 12:27 pm
@okie,
okie wrote:

djjd62 wrote:

it doesn't matter, since it's just part of your paranoid delusion, if you must know the truth

i'm not a huge fan of fascists in real life

i do however have a particular hatred for bankers (lawyers and politicians as well)

Hatred for bankers? What kind of nuttiness is that? I happen to like bankers, honest ones, after all I trust them with my money so that I can write checks and all of the other convenient services they offer. Bankers are every bit as valid as you are I would bet, I have no idea what you do, but would you appreciate people hating you for no logical reason, would you? Same with lawyers and politicians, we need them, but we need honest ones, and I think we would do better with them both if we did not combine them as often, in otherwords we do not need as many lawyer politicians, because we have completely overdone the numbers of laws and the types of laws that we now have, probably because we have way too many lawyers elected to office. We instead need more economists, business owners, engineers, geologists, and all manner of other professions in our government so that we could achieve more balance and common sense to the way we are governed.
Absolutely right Okie and that's just another reason I put djjd on ignore so many years ago. Djjd has not a wit of common sense. I have strong evidence he's not even american.
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Gala
 
  1  
Thu 3 Dec, 2009 12:43 pm
@djjd62,
Quote:
i'm not a huge fan of fascists in real life

i do however have a particular hatred for bankers (lawyers and politicians as well)

You're not a fan of fascists? What kind of nuttiness is this? Obama is a fascist, no wait, he's a Nazi.

Hatred for bankers? What kind of nuttiness is this? If it weren't for banks charging you $39 for every over draft, how would you ever know you were low on cash? It's a service these honest people have devised to alert you, the consumer they so cherish. I happen to love bankers, especially the altruistic ones, the ones that auhtorized subprime loans, and credit card rate hikes. Convenience, I personally cannot live without.

djjd62
 
  1  
Thu 3 Dec, 2009 01:07 pm
@okie,
you'd be amazed how little i care about what others think of me or what i do for a living, i determine my self worth

as for bankers, lawyers and politicians, i guess they have every right to exist, as long as i don't have to be one or live next door to one, i'm willing to to let them be
okie
 
  0  
Thu 3 Dec, 2009 01:15 pm
@djjd62,
djjd62 wrote:

you'd be amazed how little i care about what others think of me or what i do for a living, i determine my self worth

as for bankers, lawyers and politicians, i guess they have every right to exist, as long as i don't have to be one or live next door to one, i'm willing to to let them be

It might be news to you, but bankers, lawyers, and politicians have a right to live next door to you if they want to and can afford the housing. Like or lump it, it is their right to do that, so get over your hatreds, okay? Man, if I have ever seen a bigot, you are one, and I certainly hope your ilk don't ever run the country, but sadly maybe they are now?
 

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