Thomas wrote:okie wrote: You must be swayed by personalities a great deal, wow. Sanders is about as far from Libertarian as you can find here in this country.
Not so far from those of us who think the greatest imminent threats are currently to civil liberties, not to economic liberties. I can't speak for all of us, but six years of Bush have brought this libertarian to a peculiar point: At the moment I can easily live with a president who raises taxes, if only he refrains from starting gratuitous wars, cuts back on Patriot Act powers, quits imprisoning Americans without a trial, and closes down Guantanamo Bay and its cousins around the world. Given where America is at, Bernie Sanders and Russ Feingold fit this libertarian's preferences better than many Republicans who sling around the word "freedom" while subverting its substance through their votes.
(PS: Sadly, Wikipedia tells me that Feingold decided in November 2006 not to run. <sigh>)
Well, for somebody in Germany, you are far more worried about Bush restricting my civil liberties than I am. I have not a taint of a threat as far as I can see. What Bush has done is less than 1% as bad as FDR locking up Japanese Americans in concentration camps by the thousands, plus reading soldiers letters. You have to understand most of the controversy around Bush is nothing but Democrats being mad about losing the Whitehouse. Clinton did much of the same stuff, and if a Democrat was in office, they would be doing the same or worse with hardly a hint of a problem whatsoever in the press.
As far as the war, Congress gave the go ahead, for which many of the same people act like Bush made the whole thing up. This has to be one of the worst periods of politics here that I've ever witnessed.