cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Sun 15 Nov, 2009 05:33 pm
@dyslexia,
okie approves of frauds like Madoff who gets rich through pyramid schemes, because it doesn't help the poor and middle class. It only affects the rich who can afford to spread the wealth, and okie wants them to pay less taxes to restrict wealth redistribution.
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teenyboone
 
  1  
Sun 15 Nov, 2009 05:45 pm
@mysteryman,
So where did you fight the SAME war? Ground? Air? Sea? How do you know Rev. Wright killed anyone? Tell me, what did you like about Bush/Cheney/Rice and company? What did they do that was open and transparent? Didn't they use 9-11 as the run up to the 2 current wars that they "effed" up! Aren't THEY responsible for the deaths of over 3000 Americans? Aren't THEY the reason the US is bankrupt? When was the first stimulus for the banks approved September 2008? When was Obama elected? What did he inherit? Pass THAT SAT and get a "get out of jail card", free!
teenyboone
 
  1  
Sun 15 Nov, 2009 05:47 pm
@snood,
Take your pick! They're all living in that Rethuglican Group Home on C St.
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cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Sun 15 Nov, 2009 05:49 pm
@teenyboone,
Deaths of over 4,000 Americans, and untold tens of thousands of innocent lives in Iraq. They lack conscience, but no new taxes for the rich. They love politics and wars, and many Americans follow in their footsteps.

They now want to defeat universal health care for the American people, but want to enlarge our troops in Afghanistan, so they can come back in coffins or permanently wounded for the rest of their lives.
teenyboone
 
  1  
Sun 15 Nov, 2009 05:52 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Just gave to Howard Deans group to fight the right! Women who don't get the right to determine their own health care should ask that no men be able to buy viagra with federal funds or be able to have vasectomies, either!
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okie
 
  0  
Sun 15 Nov, 2009 06:26 pm
@DrewDad,
DrewDad wrote:

ican711nm wrote:
I do know that Obama told "Joe the Plumber" "we should spread the wealth around."

And I'm trying to understand what's wrong with that. "Spread the wealth" means (to me) "make more people wealthy".

You won't get wealthy by stealing it from others. In case you missed it, communism didn't work, and does not work. As JFK pointed out, you need to lift all boats, instead of pulling some boats down in efforts to lift others up.

If you want to use the analogy of a classroom, penalizing the achievers and giving it to the non-achievers, it does not work.

Ho hum, it gets tiresome to have to point out the obvious. What happened to our educational system? How come so many people are so uninformed and ignorant of basic common sense or economics 101?
dyslexia
 
  1  
Sun 15 Nov, 2009 06:33 pm
@okie,
drewdad
Quote:
Ho hum, it gets tiresome to have to point out the obvious.

what i want to know is
Quote:
How come so many people are so uninformed and ignorant of basic common sense or economics 101?
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Sun 15 Nov, 2009 06:35 pm
@dyslexia,
It's obvious that okie is clueless.
dyslexia
 
  1  
Sun 15 Nov, 2009 07:01 pm
@cicerone imposter,
not at all ci, okie took econ 101 when he was getting his university degree prior to his being drafted as an officer in the big red one.
Diest TKO
 
  1  
Sun 15 Nov, 2009 07:42 pm
@okie,
okie wrote:
You won't get wealthy by stealing it from others.

And yet, this is exactly how so many of the wealth became wealthy.

T
K
O
okie
 
  0  
Sun 15 Nov, 2009 08:19 pm
@Diest TKO,
If there are crooks, prosecute them. Why is Franklin Raines still walking free? And why is Tim Geithner still holding a job in this government? Why is Chris Dodd still a senator?
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Sun 15 Nov, 2009 08:24 pm
@okie,
Why are you still considered a human?
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Diest TKO
 
  1  
Mon 16 Nov, 2009 12:52 am
@okie,
With the ways Wal-mart exploits its employees here and abroad to fix prices and manipulate the market, how do they exist?

T
K
O
Eorl
 
  1  
Mon 16 Nov, 2009 05:18 am
@okie,
okie wrote:

DrewDad wrote:

ican711nm wrote:
I do know that Obama told "Joe the Plumber" "we should spread the wealth around."

And I'm trying to understand what's wrong with that. "Spread the wealth" means (to me) "make more people wealthy".

You won't get wealthy by stealing it from others. In case you missed it, communism didn't work, and does not work. As JFK pointed out, you need to lift all boats, instead of pulling some boats down in efforts to lift others up.

If you want to use the analogy of a classroom, penalizing the achievers and giving it to the non-achievers, it does not work.

Ho hum, it gets tiresome to have to point out the obvious. What happened to our educational system? How come so many people are so uninformed and ignorant of basic common sense or economics 101?


You live in a country so afraid of communism. I live in a country that has a universal taxpayer funded health care and we are a hell of a long way towards the "right". Where did this fear of wealth-sharing come from? You already pay some tax, don't you? The rest of the world sees your attitude as pure selfish greed. Why am I bothering? I have never seen you listen to anything anyone has ever said. Ever. Go on then, rebut and justify to the end of time...
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Mon 16 Nov, 2009 08:41 am
@Diest TKO,
okie doesn't know his history and how the Rockerfeller's (charged with monopoly), Rothschild (conspiracy), and even the George W Bush (fraud: giving the wealthy tax cuts while increasing the national debt).

okie doesn't want to tax these wealthy folks, because it'll then become the "redistribution of wealth." It's okay to transfer the national debt on our children and grandchildren, because that's not wealth transfer. okie has no concept of logic.

DrewDad
 
  1  
Mon 16 Nov, 2009 08:53 am
@okie,
Who said anything about stealing? That's you putting words in Obama's mouth, out of your fear.

"There's a black man! He's gonna take my money!"

lulz
Advocate
 
  1  
Mon 16 Nov, 2009 09:10 am
Karl Rove, the scum of the earth, blames Obama's lawyers for Bush's failure to prosecute the Muslim terrorists.

http://www.newshounds.us/2009/11/14/karl_rove_blames_obama_administration_lawyers_who_do_not_love_america_for_bush_administrations_failure_to_prosecute_khalid_shaikh_mohammed.php
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Mon 16 Nov, 2009 10:08 am
@Advocate,
The first paragraph on your link says it all:
Quote:
I don’t know about you but when it comes to matters of terrorism and national security, Karl Rove is not exactly at the top of my list of credible experts. Political experts, maybe, certainly experts on dirty tricks, but it’s hard to forget that this is the same guy who played a role in the outing of CIA agent Valerie Plame and who served as the right-hand man of the Bush administration which, despite their posturing about national security, ignored the President’s Daily Brief of August 6, 2001, titled “Bin Laden determined to strike in US” and started a war in Iraq based on faulty evidence.
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okie
 
  -1  
Mon 16 Nov, 2009 10:27 am
@Eorl,
Eorl wrote:

You live in a country so afraid of communism.

Rightfully so, as that idealogy has been responsible for a monumental amount of suffering, starvation, and death.
Quote:
I live in a country that has a universal taxpayer funded health care and we are a hell of a long way towards the "right". Where did this fear of wealth-sharing come from? You already pay some tax, don't you? The rest of the world sees your attitude as pure selfish greed.

Thats your problem. We live better than most of the world, even the poorest among us. And we send more money and help to the rest of the world than probably any other country. When a disaster happens, we are there.
Quote:
Why am I bothering?

Probably because you don't know what you are talking about.
Quote:
I have never seen you listen to anything anyone has ever said. Ever. Go on then, rebut and justify to the end of time...

Yes, I am going to defend this country, because I believe it is probably better than most, after all people are kicking in the doors trying to come here. If it was so terrible, that would not be happening. I am frankly sick and tired of people like you living somewhere else, criticizing us for how we conduct our business here. By the way, I have a relative living in Australia, from Great Britain actually, but they are not all that bragadochious about your health care and all the rest of it there. But hey, I kind of like John Howard for a few things, if you get tired of him, send him over here.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Mon 16 Nov, 2009 10:34 am
@okie,
okie can't decipher the difference between a democracy and communism. He also probably doesn't understand that law of the land called the Constitution.

His fears are as extreme as his imagination will take him; a dodo bird in human clothing.
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