@djjd62,
djjd62, Don't feel too out of it concerning okie's opinion about basic training vs service in Vietnam. He's one confused dude! I just got back from a trip to Vietnam, and visited the War Remnant's Museum in Saigon which has hundreds of pictures of the war. Not only dead babies and infants, but deformed babies and adults from agent orange, and the many dead bodies as a result of that war.
okie is a special case of confusion about reality. I've also talked to Vietnam vets when they returned from the war, and they told me about the atrocities there.
If okie feels basic training was tougher than Vietnam, he was probably based in one the safest zones at a desk job where he didn't lose any of his buddies.