parados
 
  4  
Sun 9 Aug, 2009 08:58 am
@Foxfyre,
It's horrible that Obama had to decorate his own cake. And he was tacky about how he decorated it.

IMPEACH OBAMA.. Presidents are not authorized to decorate birthday cakes under the constitution.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Sun 9 Aug, 2009 09:24 am
@parados,
parados, Thanks for my laugh for the day!
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Advocate
 
  1  
Sun 9 Aug, 2009 09:28 am
@parados,
I agree that Obama should be called out for decorating the cake. The constitution does not authorize this, and it certainly diminishes the office of the president.

Also, Bill Clinton should lose his status as an ex-president for his unofficial trip to extract beautiful women from N. Korea.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Sun 9 Aug, 2009 09:52 am
@Advocate,
They are "beautiful" compared to "that woman." LOL
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okie
 
  0  
Thu 13 Aug, 2009 11:06 am
"Overall, 47% of voters say they at least somewhat approve of the President's performance. That’s the lowest level of total approval yet recorded. "
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/var/plain/storage/images/media/obama_total_approval_graphics/august_2009/obama_total_approval_august_13_2009/240235-1-eng-US/obama_total_approval_august_13_2009.jpg

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Thu 13 Aug, 2009 11:10 am
@okie,
The Ras poll isn't even comparable to "all the others" to poll Obama's performance. Your bias is showing!
spendius
 
  1  
Thu 13 Aug, 2009 11:54 am
@cicerone imposter,
A President can hardly help his approval ratings going down in his first years in office. He obviously needs to squeeze the pips a bit to pay for the rise in those ratings before the next election. All he needs is a thick skin.

That's considered here to be just the way the cookie crumbles.

Mr Obama's ratings are holding up quite well I would have said. Americans are very reluctant to give up positions once they get them fixed.

Mrs Thatcher hit 23% and won the next election. She won the Falkland Islands back for us don't you know? She was shown stuck out of the top of a tank at full speed on a level part of Salisbury Plain with a Che Guevara bandanna fluttering round her neck and wearing Ghengis Khan goggles. There was a hell of a row over the victory parade. Mrs T wanted to lead it astride a white charger waving a sword. But they talked her down eventually. She's still furious about it.

At least a respectable number of you laughed when Mr Bush pulled the aircraft carrier stunt. I saw that live. The News people had been tipped off so we got a first class view of it all. It was great. Amazing logistics. When I see scenes like that I think first of that swirling mass of ambitious hot-shots with all their kit. And I thought of Mr Bush looking at the ship from 30,ooo ft. and 5 miles off and gulping a bit and then seeing the deck going up and down by a fairly alarming amount and hearing the pilot say "hook down" in that casual way they do and so I was watching him closely to see if he was trembling or anything. Not a tremor. Like going to the bathroom calm. I thought he should get a third term there and then.

Anyhoo--the public is quite fickle and ratings are worthless at this stage.
spendius
 
  1  
Thu 13 Aug, 2009 12:28 pm
As a matter of fact I have studied pre-election booms over a number of years. And I've noticed, apart from the obvious stuff, that they get shorter as they pass which suggests that persuasion techniques are getting better and/or the public's attention span is narrowing and not from a particularly wide position either if one takes ci's signature as something to go by. As we all do.

Maybe Einstein didn't know that it was a commonplace in Homer's day, probably earlier, before records began, and all down the line to where he was. He did have his head in a shed at the time.

Einstein lookalikes have appeared in a number of mad-violinist ads. It's a typecast part now. What was the NCSE doing to let that happen to their standard bearer on their watch.

Obviously ci. doesn't know it was a fossil commonplace because presenting a commonplace of such longevity as that hoary old chestnut as a profundity, at which we should all sit up and take notice, and post after effing post constitutes a thrumming finger-wagging, is as stupid, crass and insulting to A2Kers as telling them that you have found a new way to sharpen a pencil with Mom's carving knife.

Turn it up ci.

Cyclo's signature line is more interesting.
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georgeob1
 
  1  
Thu 13 Aug, 2009 12:34 pm
@spendius,
spendius wrote:

At least a respectable number of you laughed when Mr Bush pulled the aircraft carrier stunt. I saw that live. The News people had been tipped off so we got a first class view of it all. It was great. Amazing logistics. When I see scenes like that I think first of that swirling mass of ambitious hot-shots with all their kit. And I thought of Mr Bush looking at the ship from 30,ooo ft. and 5 miles off and gulping a bit and then seeing the deck going up and down by a fairly alarming amount and hearing the pilot say "hook down" in that casual way they do and so I was watching him closely to see if he was trembling or anything. Not a tremor. Like going to the bathroom calm. I thought he should get a third term there and then.

Anyhoo--the public is quite fickle and ratings are worthless at this stage.

I agree that few things are as impressive and - cool - as a carrier landing. It was a great moment for me to watch that one too, and Bush did indeed handle it well. (We don't say 'hook down" on the radio, instead in daylight we try to do it all in radio silence. That was Royal Navy stuff from the old days when they still had real carriers - I have a few traps on old Arc Royal in Buccaneers.)

However just as Bush lost his momentum (and public support) with his single-minded approach to Iraq and the ill-named "War on Terror" the same thing may be beginning now for another president.
revel
 
  1  
Thu 13 Aug, 2009 12:52 pm
@okie,
Real Clear politics has Obama at an average of 53.1%, about the same as they have been these last few weeks. Not too good, I admit.

President Obama Job Approval

okie
 
  0  
Thu 13 Aug, 2009 12:55 pm
@revel,
If the main stream media would be ragging on Obama as they did Bush, Obama would be near 30 to 35% and sinking fast, already.
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spendius
 
  1  
Thu 13 Aug, 2009 01:11 pm
@georgeob1,
I notice George that you haven't told me that I've lost my marbles with that post of mine you've quoted as you did the other day when you found one less agreeable.

I meant "hook down" over the intercom in the cockpit as I had realised that radio silence was necessary in the circumstances I was referring to. Reassurance from the pilot that he could pull up in time.

Quote:
However just as Bush lost his momentum (and public support) with his single-minded approach to Iraq and the ill-named "War on Terror" the same thing may be beginning now for another president.


There's always something going to be happening. These days don't have that charm associated with the late fifties.

I read that a Prime Minister at that time had agreed to open something or other in a municiple building. There was a party of local worthies to welcome him and he pulled out of the traffic and stopped next to them with his wife at the wheel. I seem to remember that it was an Austen 7. When he had done the business he came out, got in the car, gave them a wave, and his wife put her indicator out, an orange arm, and at the first safe gap in the traffic rejoined the fray.

There was rationing and austerity at the time. People accepted their lot. Now we are miles better off we are permanently pissed off.

It's hard to know what to think.
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realjohnboy
 
  2  
Mon 17 Aug, 2009 02:29 pm
@realjohnboy,

realjohnboy wrote:


Good afternoon. Every couple of weeks since the 1st of March, I have been posting polling results on President Obama's approval ratings as gathered by the polltaker Rasmussen. Here is the latest update:
The 1st set of numbers is the % of respondents who STRONGLY APPROVE of Mr Obama's performance vs the % who STRONGLY DISAPPROVE. The 2nd number is the index obtained by subtracting the DISAPPROVE from the APPROVE. The 3rd set is the % of folks who APPROVE vs DISAPPROVE, dropping the word "STRONGLY."

3/1/09: (38%-30%) = +8 (58%-40%)
3/15/09: (37%-31%) = +6 (56%-43%)
4/1/09: (37%-29%) = +5 (56%-44%)
4/14/09: (35%-32%) = +3 (55%-44%)
5/2/09: (33%-32%) = +1 (54%-45%)
5/16/09: (34%-30%) = +4 (56%-43%)
5/31/09: (36%-26%) = +10 (58%-41%)
6/16/09: (36%-32%) = +4 (56%-43% )
6/30/09: (31%-33%) = -2 (54%-46%)
7/15/09: (29%-36%) = -7 (52%-47%)
7/31/09: (28%-39%) = -11 (48%-51%)
8/17/09: (33%-40%) = -7 (49%-50%)

cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Mon 17 Aug, 2009 02:47 pm
@realjohnboy,
rjb, I believe these polls are influenced by the people who do not understand there are misinformation being spread by the republicans and health insurance industry against the health plan.

Those who challenge the sponsors of most of the town hall meetings are making charges not in the current planning for our health care, but that takes center stage on how our media covers current events.

When they hear "death panel" and "letting grandma die" from her illness, that's what sticks in people's brains and not what the response was for those ridiculous charges.

People can't see that the dam is broken, and the flood of water is rushing in to drown them because they fail to understand anything about what the health plan is about. They're crying for "more of the same."
roger
 
  1  
Mon 17 Aug, 2009 04:25 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

People can't see that the dam is broken, and the flood of water is rushing in to drown them because they fail to understand anything about what the health plan is about. They're crying for "more of the same."


Beautiful. That is exactly why it is so popular. Nobody seems to know what is in any of the four bills under consideration, which will be accepted, what the final version will look like, but some things they are sure of -- A Democratic congress with a Democratic president is looking out for the Peeple, and the Folks back home. Whoever pays for whatever it is, it won't be the Peeple and the Folks. That much we seem to be sure of.
dyslexia
 
  1  
Mon 17 Aug, 2009 04:27 pm
@roger,
and I was shattered when I saw how everything's exactly as it seems.
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mysteryman
 
  1  
Mon 17 Aug, 2009 06:04 pm
@cicerone imposter,
And thats the same thing Bush did, and you said he wasnt looking for terrorists.

Whats the difference?
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mysteryman
 
  1  
Mon 17 Aug, 2009 06:07 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
revel, The NBC/WSJ poll shows us that most Americans don't have a clue on the "real" health plan being developed by congress, because the health insurance industry and the republicans are using misinformation and lies to defeat it.


How do you know?
You keep saying that since there is no bill, and since there is no health plan yet, nobody knows what the plan is.

So, since nobody knows what the plan is, how do you know who is ultimately lying or not?
mysteryman
 
  1  
Mon 17 Aug, 2009 06:14 pm
Now this is interesting...and legal.
But how many Obama supporters are going to get upset about it...

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/2009/08/man-carrying-an-assault-rifle-and-pistol-outside-obama-event.php

Quote:
(Late update: CNN now reports that there were two men carrying assault rifles, reportedly AR-15s, outside President Obama's event in Phoenix.)

(Late late update: The Associated Press reports that there were about 12 people with guns outside the event.)

A man was seen carrying an assault rifle and a pistol outside the VFW Convention in Phoenix where President Obama spoke today, a local newspaper reports. (Click through for a photo.)

Local police said it's legal under Arizona law, but two officers kept close by him.



So, since it was legal, will those on the left complain about it?
realjohnboy
 
  4  
Mon 17 Aug, 2009 06:35 pm
@mysteryman,
I am a liberal, MM, so if it legal, it is legal.
Legal, but pretty damn stupid.
What was the point? I am going to an event where the President will be? So...I need to take my gun with me.
Can you explain the thought process, as you see it, going through their heads?
Thank you.
 

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