Cycloptichorn
 
  1  
Wed 5 Aug, 2009 01:16 pm
@okie,
okie wrote:

Striking Similarity of tactics by lefties here, folks!

"Chavez Calls Attack on Opposition TV Station 'Anarchist'"

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,537000,00.html?test=latestnews

"DNC: GOP 'inciting angry mobs' of 'rabid right wing extremists'"

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2308299/posts?page=134


Be specific; what is the similarity of tactics?

I would also note that the DNC release is basically accurate. The right-wing astroturfed mobs we've seen at various 'town hall' meetings have not come to discuss but to shout down. They are not interested in hearing any point but their own and have been instructed to 'get in the face of' and 'intimidate' the politicians. Hardly democratic behavior by these people.

Cycloptichorn
okie
 
  0  
Wed 5 Aug, 2009 01:32 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Let me get this right, when Obama tells organizations like ACORN, that are partially funded by taxpayer dollar, a pseudo Democratic Party organization, when he tells them to get into people's faces, it isn't an angry mob, but when everyday citizens gathering at a town meeting to demand answers, that is an angry mob? Besides that some of these meetings are Democratic meetings, with Democrats asking questions. These are virtually all good citizens that pay their taxes that are wanting some answers about what is trying to be ramrodded down their throats, and I sympathize with them.

"Astroturfing" is Axelrods skill, not ours.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Wed 5 Aug, 2009 01:34 pm
@okie,
There is no such thing as a "psuedo political organization." They all must follow the laws of the land.
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Cycloptichorn
 
  2  
Wed 5 Aug, 2009 01:36 pm
@okie,
okie wrote:

Let me get this right, when Obama tells organizations like ACORN, that are partially funded by taxpayer dollar, a pseudo Democratic Party organization,


Woah chief. ACORN is not a psuedo-Dem party organization in any way.

Quote:
when he tells them to get into people's faces, it isn't an angry mob, but when everyday citizens gathering at a town meeting to demand answers, that is an angry mob?


When did Obama tell who, what? I don't know what you are alleging here.

Quote:
Besides that some of these meetings are Democratic meetings, with Democrats asking questions.


Which ones? I think you are making this up. And the problem isn't questions, it's bad behavior by the Republicans in the crowd - shouting, chanting, and shutting down meetings, threatening Representatives, etc.

Quote:
These are virtually all good citizens that pay their taxes that are wanting some answers about what is trying to be ramrodded down their throats, and I sympathize with them.


Virtually all? How do you know? You don't. And they don't want answers, they aren't interested in what the representatives have to say at all.

When you are interested in hearing what someone has to say, do you yell at them, Okie? Do you chant while they are trying to talk? Do you try and shut meetings down, insult people, or hang effigies of them outside of meetings? These are the behaviors your ideological brethren are engaging in.

Cycloptichorn
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okie
 
  0  
Wed 5 Aug, 2009 01:38 pm
What we citizens are mad about is that not only we have to pay for ACORN to get into peoples faces, we are called an angry mob when we simply want an answer to good questions at a town hall meeting. You guys are really going to overextend your attempt to take over and convert the country into some leftist system you have been dreaming about for decades. People are dumb, but maybe not as dumb as you think.

We are mad that a Chicago street thug styled politician wants to govern the entire country in the same way.
okie
 
  -2  
Wed 5 Aug, 2009 01:40 pm
@okie,
Again, this is obvious:
okie wrote:

Striking Similarity of tactics by lefties here, folks!

"Chavez Calls Attack on Opposition TV Station 'Anarchist'"

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,537000,00.html?test=latestnews

"DNC: GOP 'inciting angry mobs' of 'rabid right wing extremists'"

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2308299/posts?page=134


Do not let the Democrat thugs govern like Chavez.
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DontTreadOnMe
 
  2  
Wed 5 Aug, 2009 01:41 pm
@okie,
okie wrote:

We are mad that a Chicago street thug styled politician wants to govern the entire country in the same way.


now you know how i felt about eight years of the same, courtesy of the Texas Mafia.
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Debra Law
 
  2  
Wed 5 Aug, 2009 01:44 pm
@okie,
okie wrote:

What we citizens are mad about is . . . .


Speak for yourself, okie. I'm a citizen, but I didn't elect you to be my spokesperson. You're just angry because Republicans have lost public support and you're lashing out by spewing manufactured hysteria.
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okie
 
  -2  
Wed 5 Aug, 2009 01:47 pm
IMPEACH OBAMA

http://trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2009/08/cornyn-to-white-house-quit-col.html

"Sen. John Cornyn, accusing the White House of compiling an "enemies list" on health care, is asking President Barack Obama to cease a new program to have Americans send "fishy" information on health care to the White House."
DontTreadOnMe
 
  2  
Wed 5 Aug, 2009 01:49 pm
@okie,
okie wrote:

IMPEACH OBAMA

http://trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2009/08/cornyn-to-white-house-quit-col.html

"Sen. John Cornyn, accusing the White House of compiling an "enemies list" on health care, is asking President Barack Obama to cease a new program to have Americans send "fishy" information on health care to the White House."



why are you worried, okie? aren't you proud of your positions and statements and demands?

i mean, "if you haven't done anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about."
okie
 
  0  
Wed 5 Aug, 2009 01:52 pm
@DontTreadOnMe,
Difference: Obama is not looking for terrorists, he is looking for anyone that opposes his agenda. The man is turning out to be one bad apple. The sooner we sweep some of these people out of office, the better.
Foxfyre
 
  1  
Wed 5 Aug, 2009 01:54 pm
Well, I will admit that occasionally President Obama is sometimes blamed for stuff that isn't his fault.

Today he's being chided for his really tacky birthday cake sporting 44 (he's the 44th president) instead of his accurate age of 48.

But really, wouldn't you think the leader of the entire free world would be on top of something like this? (Kidding).

It is tacky though

http://media.nbcwashington.com/images/410*307/obamacake.jpg
DontTreadOnMe
 
  1  
Wed 5 Aug, 2009 01:59 pm
@okie,
okie wrote:

Difference: Obama is not looking for terrorists, he is looking for anyone that opposes his agenda. The man is turning out to be one bad apple. The sooner we sweep some of these people out of office, the better.


any proof of ol' cornball's accusation? or is it another missive delivered from on low via his butt?

i wonder? would you be so outraged if the obama white house were to announce that; somebody was sending out e-mails claiming that "Okie is planning to come over and take a big crap in all o' y'all's barbecues, so you best shoot him on sight.", and if you receive one of these false pieces of low down, no good lying liar messages of total dog doo, would you please be so kind as to let us see them so we can stamp out these lying liar varmints.
DontTreadOnMe
 
  1  
Wed 5 Aug, 2009 02:00 pm
@Foxfyre,
it really is.. Laughing looks like a totally cheap high school ring on first glance. "what the hell is that???"
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cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Wed 5 Aug, 2009 02:55 pm
@DontTreadOnMe,
Obama is not looking for terrorists; he's just bombing the **** out of the locations in Pakistan and Afghanistan where our military leaders think they are hiding.
DontTreadOnMe
 
  1  
Wed 5 Aug, 2009 04:57 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

Obama is not looking for terrorists; he's just bombing the **** out of the locations in Pakistan and Afghanistan where our military leaders think they are hiding.


see that just proves it. why isn't he looking in Switzerland???
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Wed 5 Aug, 2009 05:09 pm
@DontTreadOnMe,
Yea, good question. Maybe some of these MACs-conservatives have an answer.
spendius
 
  1  
Wed 5 Aug, 2009 05:15 pm
@cicerone imposter,
You had no answer to my remarks on the Universal Healthcare thread ci.

Were you stupmed?
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revel
 
  1  
Sun 9 Aug, 2009 05:45 am
Quote:
Nearly 54 percent of the Blue Dog PAC’s haul this year comes from the energy, financial services and health care industries, up from 45 percent in 2004, according to analysis of CQ MoneyLine data by the Center for Public Integrity.


These contributions poured in as President Barack Obama and the Democratic Congress have been making a major push to reform health care, develop a new energy policy and restructure oversight of the banking sector.


Clearly, these Dogs are having their day.


The Power of the PAC


As individuals, the 52 Blue Dogs have received the plurality of their 2009 campaign contributions from a traditional Democratic ally: organized labor. Labor political action committees have filled the Blue Dog campaign coffers with more than $1 million so far this cycle.


But it’s the Blue Dog PAC that reveals the most about how the coalition operates. As Blue Dog clout has expanded, fundraising has grown accordingly " and not just from traditionally Democratic contributors.


In the 2008 election cycle, as fundraising for the National Republican Congressional Committee declined by roughly one-third from 2006 and fundraising for the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee grew by just 26 percent, the Blue Dog PAC more than doubled its take (from $1,239,516 to $2,636,273).


And it raised more than $47,000 per Blue Dog from other political action committees " more than twice the $22,000-per-member total from the 2004 cycle.


Some of that cash came from interests that aren’t necessarily in sync with labor or even with traditional Democratic constituencies. In just the first half of 2009, all told the Blue Dog PAC took in $1,058,750 in contributions from other PACs, including health care PACs, which have already kicked in $297,500; energy PACs, $162,500; and financial services PACs, $134,500.




source



Quote:
New poll numbers from NBC/Wall Street Journal produce two major and potentially conflicting story lines when it comes to the Obama administration's efforts for a health care overhaul. On the one hand, the American public overwhelmingly favors a choice between getting insurance coverage either through the private market or a government run option. Indeed, 76 percent of respondents said it was either "extremely" or "quite" important to "give people a choice of both a public plan administered by the federal government and a private plan for their health insurance."

With the public option being such a lightning rod in the current health care debate, progressive activists are already emailing around these numbers as evidence that voters are way ahead of the politicians. Certainly, the findings provide a boost of sorts to President Obama, who has stood by the public plan even as Republican opposition has crystallized.

That said, the president still has his work cut out for him. In the same NBC/WSJ poll, only 33 percent of respondents said they thought the president's health care plan, to the extent they knew of it, was a "good idea;" 32 percent said it was a bad idea.


source
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Sun 9 Aug, 2009 08:20 am
@revel,
revel, The NBC/WSJ poll shows us that most Americans don't have a clue on the "real" health plan being developed by congress, because the health insurance industry and the republicans are using misinformation and lies to defeat it.

What is so amazing about this phenomenon is that republicans hare trying to stop a health care system that will help everybody with lies such as "no choice, the government will take over health care, and they are going to tell you how to die."

Amazing!
 

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