Debra Law
 
  1  
Sat 11 Jul, 2009 11:41 am
@Foxfyre,
Foxfyre wrote:
It is really early yet though for President Obama's devoted disciples to suck it up and admit they goofed.


What do you mean by "goofed"? The voters had two choices for president: Obama or McCain. Are you saying that McCain would have been a better choice?

Quote:
Would McCain have done better? Who knows?


If you can't possibly know if McCain would have been a better choice for president than Obama, why do you assert that Obama supporters "goofed"?

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But I bet we'll have folks running in 2010 and 2012 who will.


You're making a prediction about the future, but your sentence is ambiguous. The folks running in 2010 and 2012 will do what? Will they do better than Obama? or will they know that McCain would have done better than Obama?

cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Sat 11 Jul, 2009 01:11 pm
@Debra Law,
That's what makes their positions a big joke; they assume they know how Obama will fare as our president, and can predict that those who run in the next presidential elections will be better qualified.

Is that some kind of MAC disease (of the brain)? LOL
H2O MAN
 
  -2  
Sat 11 Jul, 2009 01:24 pm
@cicerone imposter,


http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_MjdtULzbIHQ/STWj9VDNnYI/AAAAAAAABc0/6qJDKJyLdUg/s320/SUCKA+Drank+the+kool+aid+didnt+ya.jpg

Those of you that assumed that you knew how Obama would fare as our president must be pretty disappointed right now.
You are not alone.
There are millions of people experiencing voters remorse and they are quietly removing Obama stickers from their cars.
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H2O MAN
 
  -2  
Sat 11 Jul, 2009 01:34 pm
http://images7.cafepress.com/product/339160537v3_350x350_Front.jpg
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Sat 11 Jul, 2009 02:41 pm
@cicerone imposter,
This is hot off the press:

Quote:
Obama says stimulus plan to kick in later this year
By Tom Doggett Tom Doggett 1 hr 24 mins ago

WASHINGTON (Reuters) " President Barack Obama said Saturday more time was needed for his $787 billion stimulus package to work, predicting the spending would have a bigger impact on the economy later this year.

In an advanced text of his weekly radio speech, Obama said the stimulus plan approved by Congress and signed into law in mid-February "was not designed to work in four months -- it was designed to work over two years."

U.S. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner said it was too soon to decide whether the U.S. economy needed the help of a second-round of government stimulus to recover from recession.

"I don't think that's a judgment we need to make now, can't really make it now prudently, responsibly," he said in a taped interview with CNN that will air Sunday.

According to a transcript provided by CNN, Geithner said the "biggest thrust" of the stimulus package signed into law earlier this year would take effect in the second half of the year.


For MACs and conservatives: That means the stimulus plan will take effect beginning this month - not in February when it was signed into law.
Still looking for miracles? It can't happen until the money is spread around into our economy.
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Debra Law
 
  1  
Sat 11 Jul, 2009 03:05 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

That's what makes their positions a big joke; they assume they know how Obama will fare as our president, and can predict that those who run in the next presidential elections will be better qualified.

Is that some kind of MAC disease (of the brain)? LOL


Their crystal ball is working overtime.
Debra Law
 
  1  
Sat 11 Jul, 2009 04:12 pm
Lawmaker says CIA director ended secret program

By PAMELA HESS

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WASHINGTON (AP) " CIA Director Leon Panetta has terminated a "very serious" covert program the spy agency kept secret from Congress for eight years, Rep. Jan Schakowsky, a House Intelligence subcommittee chairwoman, said Friday.

Schakowsky is pressing for an immediate committee investigation of the classified program, which has not been described publicly. Rep. Silvestre Reyes, D-Texas, the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, has said he is considering an investigation.

"The program is a very, very serious program and certainly deserved a serious debate at the time and through the years," Schakowsky told The Associated Press in an interview. "But now it's over."

Democrats revealed late Tuesday that CIA Director Leon Panetta had informed members of the House Intelligence Committee on June 24 that the spy agency had been withholding important information about a secret intelligence program begun after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

Schakowsky described Panetta as "stunned" that he had not been informed of the program until nearly five months into his tenure as director.

Panetta had learned of the program only the day before informing the lawmakers, according to a U.S. intelligence official. The official spoke on condition of anonymity Friday because he was not authorized to discuss the program publicly....


Another secret program--so secret that the CIA didn't even notify its new director of its existence until many months after he took office?
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Sat 11 Jul, 2009 04:14 pm
@Debra Law,
It's so fogged up now, I wonder how she's able to still "read" it. LOL
JTT
 
  1  
Sat 11 Jul, 2009 04:16 pm
@Debra Law,
Would this be an example of the executive branch legislating where they have no such right to do so?
Debra Law
 
  1  
Sat 11 Jul, 2009 04:27 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

It's so fogged up now, I wonder how she's able to still "read" it. LOL


We might have to buy Foxy a new one. Do you think she'll like this model:

http://www.dailyraider.com/politics/fakeconservativemerchandise/crystal-ball.png
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Debra Law
 
  1  
Sat 11 Jul, 2009 04:34 pm
@JTT,
JTT wrote:

Would this be an example of the executive branch legislating where they have no such right to do so?


I think it's an example of the executive branch breaking the law and hiding that fact from Congress. At least Panetta put a stop to the secret program and told Congress as soon as he found out about it, but what was this program? How many secret dungeons and dragons and daggers still exist within the deep recesses of the CIA?
JTT
 
  0  
Sat 11 Jul, 2009 04:44 pm
@Debra Law,
Clearly, it is an example of law-breaking, Debra. Yet another Republican president who's a felon. They truly do seem to like 'em dumb, crooked and often malevolent.

I was alluding to the perpetual whine we hear from some conservatives/Repubs about the various branches, in this case, the courts, not respecting the position that the founders set for them.

Surely it's a MAC principle that what's good for judges is good for presidents.

JTT
 
  1  
Sat 11 Jul, 2009 04:51 pm
@Foxfyre,
Quote:
It is really early yet though for President Obama's devoted disciples to suck it up and admit they goofed. Some never will because they are too blindly partisan to care that he isn't delivering as advertised and some are too uninformed to realize it


Whoa, whoa! Has someone go a hold of your login info, Foxy? I'd suggest hypocrisy but it seems a much much more serious problem than that.

You know the worst thing here; you make out like you are informed.
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DontTreadOnMe
 
  1  
Sat 11 Jul, 2009 05:06 pm
i got the statement for my mutual funds yesterday.

it showed a sizable gain in the last quarter. first time in over 18 months.

i guess that president obama's stimulus package is beginning to take effect.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Sat 11 Jul, 2009 05:09 pm
@JTT,
They're dumb alright; their next favorite is Sarah Palin. Dumb and dumber seems to describe conservatives as the party of "no" and no brains.

Have they offered any solutions to any of our current problems? If they have, I want to hear about it/them.

They're giving Palin two years to prepare for the 2012 elections; she's not capable of getting up to speed on anything important. Foreign affairs, diplomacy, knowledge about past and current issues/events both domestic and foreign, handle budgets that exceeds several trillion dollars, and Constitutional law. There's an excellent article on Palin in the current WSJ. A sub-heading says "Palin was bad for the Republicans - and the republic." Some of the statements: "In television interviews, she was out of her depth in a shallow pool. She couldn't say what she read because she didn't read anything. Her presentations up to the end has been has been scattered, illogical, manipulative and self-reverence. She makes the republican party look stupid, a party of the easily manipuatd." And so it goes.

The republican party needs another Palin like a hole in the head.
JTT
 
  0  
Sat 11 Jul, 2009 05:11 pm
@DontTreadOnMe,
Send it to me, keep a small portion for yourself, of course, DTOM, and I'll see that the rest is distributed in keeping with constitutional guidelines.
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Debra Law
 
  1  
Sat 11 Jul, 2009 05:21 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

They're dumb alright; their next favorite is Sarah Palin. Dumb and dumber seems to describe conservatives as the party of "no" and no brains.

Have they offered any solutions to any of our current problems? If they have, I want to hear about it/them.


I think they suggested the same things they always suggest: Deregulating business, stripping down government (to the bare bones), lowering taxes, strengthening our military, threatening world leaders (cowboy style), and bombing Iran. Did I leave anything out?
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Sat 11 Jul, 2009 05:26 pm
@Debra Law,
"Strengthening our military" is one of the dumbest conservative meme; most of our allies gets a free pass while we spend billions every year protecting their lands and people, and they spend their own money to advance their own people and interests.

Conservatives don't use the brains god gave them. Maybe, it was their parents.

We represent only five percent of the world's population; simple math and logic tells us it's impossible for the US to protect all the countries of the world.

World security should be the responsibility of the world community.
spendius
 
  2  
Sat 11 Jul, 2009 05:32 pm
@cicerone imposter,
You get sillier ci. with every day that goes by.
hawkeye10
 
  1  
Sat 11 Jul, 2009 05:33 pm
@Debra Law,
Quote:
Did I leave anything out?


Yes, privatizing government functions so that their corporate class friends can conduct their skimming operations.
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