@Foxfyre,
Foxfyre wrote:There is a state in Marxist concepts that does not differ all that much from Facism and there are those who apply socialist philosophy in a way that is virtually indistinguishable from core components of Marxsm, Facism, Nazi-ism. It would probably be helpful to agree on a defintiion of socialism before attempting to claim or deny that such concepts are being put into practics now.
As a matter of note, Foxfyre, I've been reading Hitler's Mein Kampf, and the 25 points of the Nazi Party, and the main difference I see between Hitler and Marx, is that Hitler hated Jews and he thougtht the Marxists were accomplishing things, only to have the Jews rule the world or some such imagination. Hitler was a confused man, and so are his writings, and after reading it, I wonder how could anyone believe in this guy, let alone an entire country?
At any rate, it is clear when you read the doctrine, the "Folk State" that Hitler wanted and talked about endlessly, means the "Peoples State." And the State was to rule supreme, a strong central government, from the top down, all for the "common good," as ensured by the central authority. Newspapers transgressing the common welfare was to be suppressed, property and profits could be confiscated for the common good, and so on. It was clearly a socialistic state, as ensured by a strong central authority, not much different than what you see today, in communist states or very socialistic states.
Actually, it is eerie to read some of this stuff, because it sounds eerily similar to tactics used now by the left. One of Hitler's basic approaches was - do not become bogged down in details, simply outline broad principles with sloganeering, etc., with broad appeal, to obtain a wide following among the masses. Hide the details and don't even give out the details to people that don't need to know them. He despised endless political debate and wrangling over the details.
Interesting how its like pulling hens teeth to get any details of Obama's policies until he actually does them. All we had were slogans and broad plans. Note here to all the libs, I am not comparing Obama to Hitler, but I am comparing the leftist tactics to leftist tactics used in history, and there is absolutely no doubt after reading more of this stuff, it reinforces the fact that Hitler was a leftist, at least in context with modern American politics.