Obama '08?

@old europe,

Yeah I pulled up that same graphic OE and, because I can't dispute it, I did modify my earlier observation. No reason to think it isn't accurate.

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@Foxfyre,

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So far it seems to be a top secret issue where President Obama's entourage will land

Stansted, tomorrow, I believe. (We couldn't afford to lose Heathrow again, not even for the Anointed One)

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@McTag,

It's going to land in a big argument from what I've heard.

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@spendius,

Frankly I doubt that the UK or any of the nations attending will provide us much for all our tax dollars they're spending to have this conference. Especially when it appears that the argument will extend well beyond whatever airfield is Obama's destination.

With today's technology, every country could have hooked up via closed circuit network and hashed it out from their respective administrative offices. How many billions do you suppose they would have saved had they done that? How many carbon credits?

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@Foxfyre,

They can solve the problem of jetsetting by planting trees when they get home, Foxfyre. But when the trees die and start rotting, then what? Disaster for sure.

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One of the interesting ironies of the forthcoming G-20 meeting is that President Obama will likely discover the divergence of interests between the US and Europe, that had been so widely associated in the public media with the Bush Administration, is still very much a paramount issue. Moreover, a good deal of it cannot be remedied by any feasible new policies or actions on our part.

With this in mind it will be interesting to observe whether Obama has the wisdom to recognize what cannot be remedied (or at least what isn't worth the effort ), and act accordingly.

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@McTag,

McTag wrote:

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So far it seems to be a top secret issue where President Obama's entourage will land

Stansted, tomorrow, I believe. (We couldn't afford to lose Heathrow again, not even for the Anointed One)

IMHO, the moniker "anointed one" would much better fit the former president than the present one - seeing as he was the one who was chosen for his first term by the SCOTUS, and Obama was actually elected by a clearand undeniable majority of both popular and electoral votes. But enjoy your haterade.

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W. apparently did think he was the "anointed one", since he told several people that he thought god wanted him to be president. God sure blew that one.

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@snood,

Not guilty, Snood, I'm an Obama supporter. Ask anyone.

British irony, that's all.

Peace?

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@McTag,

McTag wrote:

Not guilty, Snood, I'm an Obama supporter. Ask anyone.

British irony, that's all.

Peace?

Of course. I guess I haven't had much occasion to become accustomed to British humor, come to think of it.

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http://rlv.zcache.com/obama_socialism_trickle_up_poverty_bumper_sticker-p128090821727791821trl0_400.jpg

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Annointed or not the encounter between our new President and the European leaders should be interesting (except fot the near certainty that at this stage they will paper over any differences with bland assurances the G-20 will pursue both new regulation of financial markets and short term economic "stimulus") .

My impression is the European political leaders (particularly on the continent) see President Obama's "stimulus" plan as merely the same old borrow and spend they have been seeing for the past one or two decades, but this time with the government doing most of the borrowing - not much real difference, merely treating a new flavor of the same poison as a cure. I suspect at heart they are no more willing to cooperate now over difficult issues than they were eight years ago.

The apparent new harmony over the Global Warming issue will provide both sides an ample opportunity to expose their hypocrisy.

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@georgeob1,

georgeob1 wrote:

Annointed or not the encounter between our new President and the European leaders should be interesting (except fot the near certainty that at this stage they will paper over any differences with bland assurances the G-20 will pursue both new regulation of financial markets and short term economic "stimulus") .

My impression is the European political leaders (particularly on the continent) see President Obama's "stimulus" plan as merely the same old borrow and spend they have been seeing for the past one or two decades, but this time with the government doing most of the borrowing - not much real difference, merely treating a new flavor of the same poison as a cure. I suspect at heart they are no more willing to cooperate now over difficult issues than they were eight years ago.

The apparent new harmony over the Global Warming issue will provide both sides an ample opportunity to expose their hypocrisy.

Perhaps Obama will inform them that they can get on board, or we'll let all their banks fail. That may light a fire under them.

Cycloptichorn

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Do you think PrezBO has the guts to meet with this guy while in Europe?

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@snood,

Mac wrote-

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Stansted, tomorrow, I believe. (We couldn't afford to lose Heathrow again, not even for the Anointed One)

To which snood objected which in turn caused Mac to bottle it with some specious excuse about "British irony".

But Mac was correct. Air Force One is in the air as we speak. On it, amid a great deal of stuff, are supplies of blood suitable for transfusions for Mr Obama in the event of him needing them. There are many other people on board, not least the pilot, and if he, and the others, are not similarly provided with such facilities then it is obvious that the biological life of Mr Obama resides on a higher plane of humanity than the man, and I'll bet it is a man, into whose skilful hands Mr Obama has placed his destiny for a few hours.

I imagine that a need for a transfusion in the circumstances could only be a personal one as any other is equally likely to be applicable to others on the plane.

Thus, and it seems logical to me, Mr Obama is, officially, an "annointed one".

I also noticed in the footage of him boarding AF1 that the First Lady walked towards the steps three paces behind him, or Him perhaps I should say from now on, and at the bottom of the steps he turned around to wave at us lesser beings whilst His lady resolutely displayed her back view to us. I will admit, however, that she was permitted to join Him in a joint wave at the top of the steps just before he nursed her through the door as if she wouldn't have been able to enter the craft without His tender but firm guidance.

If you are quick they might still be showing this sequence of events on the News but there's a big story here raging about how our elected representatives are all thieves and brigands who have been enthusiastically engaged for a number of years in ripping off the taxpayers who elected them to protect these taxpayers from predation and bushwhacking.

If I remember correctly Mr and Mrs Carter used to skip gaily along holding hands.

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@Cycloptichorn,

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Perhaps Obama will inform them that they can get on board, or we'll let all their banks fail. That may light a fire under them.

What a very silly thing to say. It represents, and gratuitously, the very worst sort of American hubris which the world is showing distinct signs of rejecting.

From a supposed liberal it is utterly ridiculous. It's the sort of thing Stalin said. "How many divisions has the Pope?" stuff.

And it's empty too. With any content it is likely to lead to a response in kind.

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@spendius,

Alas, it is not hubris confined only to USA policy I'm afraid. As you correctly noted, not only is the 'annointed one' given messiah like adoration here, but his most devoted disciples, who follow him so slavishly, seem to suggest he should also be god of the world. President Bush managed to make himself so deeply unpopular that the majority of people here as well as much of the world so far seem to be willing to forgive President Obama much.

But let's hope that it is soon obvious if it indeed turns out that the emperor has no clothes. There are some really bad ideas being pushed out there that won't be so easily undone if they gain legs.

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@spendius,

spendius wrote:

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Perhaps Obama will inform them that they can get on board, or we'll let all their banks fail. That may light a fire under them.

What a very silly thing to say. It represents, and gratuitously, the very worst sort of American hubris which the world is showing distinct signs of rejecting.

From a supposed liberal it is utterly ridiculous. It's the sort of thing Stalin said. "How many divisions has the Pope?" stuff.

And it's empty too. With any content it is likely to lead to a response in kind.

Unfortunately for you, European banks would fail if the US wasn't propping up AIG and sending them money. See, your moneylenders made many of the same bad choices ours did. So in a very real sense what I said was absolutely true.

Cycloptichorn

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@Cycloptichorn,

Our banks failing is not the worst thing that could happen. That might save us from the encroachments of rabid socialism which seem to be gathering pace the more we prop up these so called enterprises.

We have been in a lot worst **** than this before.

Why didn't you address my comparison between your liberalism and that of Stalin's. All you have is an assertion.

And "in a very real sense" conjures up the notion that there might be "a very unreal sense." It's the sort of phrase one often comes across in liberal discourse.

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@spendius,

spendius wrote:

Our banks failing is not the worst thing that could happen. That might save us from the encroachments of rabid socialism which seem to be gathering pace the more we prop up these so called enterprises.

We have been in a lot worst **** than this before.

You went from claiming I was wrong, to saying 'well, worse things have happened.' That's the same thing as admitting you were wrong in the first place. I'm not interested in your anti-socialism arguments.

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Why didn't you address my comparison between your liberalism and that of Stalin's. All you have is an assertion.

I'm not interested in discussing this either, for you are a fool and this is just drunken muttering. Unworthy of my time.

Cycloptichorn

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