Obama '08?

Another observation here, after thinking about all of this pork spending, I think the stimulus bill is a trojan horse ploy, sort of like right after taking office you give everyone a big box of candy. Republican governors are threatening to turn it down, but ultimately I suspicion virtually everyone, Democrats and Republicans alike, will accept all of this pork, happily with their hands out. What this accomplishes is that every almost every politician, and citizen is now indebted to Lord Obama. This is all by design, to be capitalized on later by Obama.

Among the really rotten ideas in his speech last night, I heard about his community service idea for young people, this is another ploy like the above, if you volunteer community service, then he will help you go to college, pay for your college or give you cheap loans, I don't know which. My immediate thought on this is: Hello ACORN. All of his little brownshirt ACORN volunteers out there registering phony voters, intimidating voters, etc. that is what he envisions and loves, to perpetuate his power.

We have a really bad apple for president, folks.

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OMB defines earmarks as funds provided by the Congress for projects or programs where the congressional direction (in bill or report language) circumvents Executive Branch merit-based or competitive allocation processes, or specifies the location or recipient, or otherwise curtails the ability of the Executive Branch to manage critical aspects of the funds allocation process.

Cycloptichorn

Cycloptichorn wrote:

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OMB defines earmarks as funds provided by the Congress for projects or programs where the congressional direction (in bill or report language) circumvents Executive Branch merit-based or competitive allocation processes, or specifies the location or recipient, or otherwise curtails the ability of the Executive Branch to manage critical aspects of the funds allocation process.

Cycloptichorn

Translation, if the president comes up with pet projects its not an earmark, but if Congress does, it is. Ha ha, cyclops, thats funny. Its pork, or lets callit a presidential earmark instead of a congressional earmark.

Cyclops, You are trying to claim no earmarks. The term, "earmarks" is really a useless term. What you need to focus on is the spending, not whether it is allocated as something technically termed an earmark. The fact is the spending is very much like one huge pile of earmark type spending. It matters not to the country whether Congress put it in, or the president put it in, it is still wasteful pork spending, just like a huge pile of earmarks. You are not going to fool all of us with trickery of terms. And when Obama says there are no earmarks, he assumes we are all fools, even though alot of people apparently are.

Earmarks are pet projects, and this bill is loaded with pet projects. I don't personally care whether a congressman ordered it or Obama ordered it, okay? Or if a congressman told Obama's staffer to tell Obama to order it, or sign it, after Congress wrote the bill full of pet projects, okay?

Obama said in his Monday night press conference that the stimulus "does not contain ... a single pet project, not a single earmark, and it has been stripped of the projects members of both parties found most objectionable."

The “pet projects” may not have been so easily identifiable in the House bill, but watchdog groups picked out some in the Senate version. "To say there are no earmarks, would not be an accurate statement. There are very few," said Citizens Against Government Waste President Tom Schatz, "[M]embers [of Congress] have gotten much more creative."

Revel points out one FactCheck story that refutes some of the outrageous stretching of the truth various GOP pundits have claimed are in the stimulus bill, but another FactCheck story supports Okie's statment that there is pork (and earmarks) in the Stimuls bill.

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Obama said in his Monday night press conference that the stimulus "does not contain ... a single pet project, not a single earmark, and it has been stripped of the projects members of both parties found most objectionable."

The “pet projects” may not have been so easily identifiable in the House bill, but watchdog groups picked out some in the Senate version. "To say there are no earmarks, would not be an accurate statement. There are very few," said Citizens Against Government Waste President Tom Schatz, "[M]embers [of Congress] have gotten much more creative."

What's good for the goose is good for the gander...If you're going to call Repubs on the carpet for stretching the truth, then Obama is guilty of the same.