Cycloptichorn
 
  1  
Thu 29 Jan, 2009 05:51 pm
@okie,
okie wrote:

So if this was Bush, and Bush stared him down, this would be no big deal, Frank? I am just pointing it out, filing it away, so that if more of this side of Obama comes out, just don't claim I did not point it out, thats all.

I saw a glare during one of the debates with Hillary, that did not receive any press, but listen, you don't hang around angry people if you are not angry yourself. Just pointing it out, thats all. And I know cyclops will always defend Obama, no matter what he does until the day he dies, but I am posting interesting things like this for people that are willing to consider that Obama may not be what the press claims he is.


Hey, I don't always defend Obama.

For example, I'm pissed he's hiring an economic team with too many ties to companies on wall street I don't like.

I'm annoyed that he seems to be reluctant to put the screws to those who were running the financial institutions. I hope fervently that the FBI is just quietly building cases against lots of those fuckers.

I think he should not have hired lobbyists if he said he wasn't going to. I understand that not every lobbyist is a bad guy, and what 'lobbying' means is sometimes fungible; but it would have been better to just cut it off altogether, there are plenty of smart, capable people out there, just pick someone else.

But, on to the important part of your post:

Quote:
So if this was Bush, and Bush stared him down, this would be no big deal, Frank? I am just pointing it out, filing it away, so that if more of this side of Obama comes out, just don't claim I did not point it out, thats all.


You never would have seen Bush stare anyone down. Yaknow, that's an important difference between the two of them; Bush was a fake tough guy, and Obama is the real deal. Glad you pointed that out.

Cycloptichorn
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Thu 29 Jan, 2009 05:53 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Spot on! He tells the world that the same old bank honchos gave themselves 19 billion in bonus from the bailout money, and he doesn't say anything about prosecuting those SOBs, just a rap on their hands. Naughty, naughty...
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Setanta
 
  1  
Thu 29 Jan, 2009 05:58 pm
Compare this to Vice President Nelson Rockefeller giving the press the finger during a rally for Bob Dole in 1976.

http://www.ooze.com/finger/assets/images/rockefeller.jpg

Perhaps this might be a case of whose ox has been gored.
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okie
 
  1  
Thu 29 Jan, 2009 07:43 pm
@old europe,
It was a flash of anger, a second or a split second but he immediately reinstated his fake smile, but no, it was dismissed by the press, or ignored, you had to be watching closely, but I saw it. Hillary did attack him on a few occasions, and it was on one of those occasions. I watched virtually all of the debates closely, oe, as Obama was an unknown, and I was interested in trying to read his personality or demeanor. As time goes on, I could be wrong, but I think people will begin to see he does not like dissent from his opinion at all. He doesn't take it very well, not after he has made up his mind on things he really cares about.
Setanta
 
  1  
Thu 29 Jan, 2009 07:48 pm
@okie,
So you saw, or imagined you saw, a glare from Obama, and that means that you can state to a certainty that: ". . . he does not like dissent from his opinion at all" and that: "He doesn't take it very well, not after he has made up his mind on things he really cares about."

You got all 0f that from a brief look that you might not even have seen, but only imagined.

When it came to dissenting opinions, the former President was one of the worst we've ever had. You jokers are clutching at straws. This administration has just gotten on its feet, but all the conservative clowns are running around clutching at anything to attempt to come up with a reason to criticize Mr. Obama. You should go join Baldimo in his Medal of Honor thread. You could really howl there.
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okie
 
  1  
Thu 29 Jan, 2009 07:50 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Cycloptichorn wrote:

You never would have seen Bush stare anyone down. Yaknow, that's an important difference between the two of them; Bush was a fake tough guy, and Obama is the real deal. Glad you pointed that out.

Cycloptichorn

Bush is a pleasant guy, not vindictive. Bush is authentic, real, not a fake, certainly not a fake tough guy. What a crock, cyclops, Obama is the real deal, what? He is a fake, he is not the Messiah. He is a greenhorn that somehow convinced everyone he knew everything, and he hardly knows anything, not even where the door is at the White House.
Butrflynet
 
  1  
Thu 29 Jan, 2009 08:02 pm
Okie, the man went down the stairs to say hello to some reporters. Nothing more, nothing less. When a reporter tried asking him a bunch of questions, he said he wasn't there to answer questions, he was just there to greet them and say hello and that there would be a press conference later. They guy kept pushing at it. Obama said no again. The guy tried again. Obama was rather polite in his version of "what about 'no' did you not understand?"

If Obama had answered the guy's questions, you can bet that the Fox News folks would be crying foul over unfair, unequal access to the President for the "liberal media" reporters who happened to be hanging out in the room.
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Butrflynet
 
  1  
Thu 29 Jan, 2009 08:05 pm
@okie,
I thought that White House door gaff was hilarious. It showed how much time he'd spent on getting to work on the nation's business and not on taking tours of the White House to learn where all the doors are.
old europe
 
  1  
Thu 29 Jan, 2009 08:43 pm
@okie,
okie wrote:
It was a flash of anger, a second or a split second but he immediately reinstated his fake smile, but no, it was dismissed by the press, or ignored, you had to be watching closely, but I saw it.


Uh, yeah. Sure.

Not only did you see what nobody else saw - you're also a professional psychologist, and you therefore conclude that Obama is an Angry Black Man with some kind of sinister agenda and secret, dark motives.

cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Thu 29 Jan, 2009 08:46 pm
okie is famous for making mountains out of mole hills and mole hills out of mountains. This description is accurate to the meter.
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okie
 
  1  
Thu 29 Jan, 2009 09:14 pm
@old europe,
old europe wrote:

okie wrote:
It was a flash of anger, a second or a split second but he immediately reinstated his fake smile, but no, it was dismissed by the press, or ignored, you had to be watching closely, but I saw it.


Uh, yeah. Sure.

Not only did you see what nobody else saw - you're also a professional psychologist, and you therefore conclude that Obama is an Angry Black Man with some kind of sinister agenda and secret, dark motives.

I really do not know, oe, as I've posted many times, Obama is a bundle of contradictions, an enigma, who is Obama? We are beginning to find out, and as time goes on, we will all get a better idea. It does seem he is careening leftward pretty quickly, oe, that is not a big surprise, but yes, I do think he harbors anger. I am not a head shrink, but I see some troubling things, whether they are serious or just me fearing the worst, I do not know. I do not find him to be an open straightforward type of guy, no, I do not. I do not find him trustworthy at all. He says some wonderful things sometimes. His talk on the stimulus package, he sounded almost reaganesque, but he contradicted his own words not long ago. He is inconsitent and not genuine.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Thu 29 Jan, 2009 09:37 pm
@okie,
okie is genuine ..........
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Advocate
 
  1  
Thu 29 Jan, 2009 11:00 pm
It is important to note that O did not pull out a knife.
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maporsche
 
  2  
Fri 30 Jan, 2009 05:54 am
@Butrflynet,
Butrflynet wrote:

I thought that White House door gaff was hilarious. It showed how much time he'd spent on getting to work on the nation's business and not on taking tours of the White House to learn where all the doors are.


You really see his presidency through rose colored glasses don't you?
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okie
 
  1  
Fri 30 Jan, 2009 10:32 am
Will Obama listen to Castro? I am sure he will lend a sympathetic ear.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,485589,00.html
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Setanta
 
  1  
Fri 30 Jan, 2009 10:33 am
Okie, you are a source of endless mirth . . .
okie
 
  0  
Fri 30 Jan, 2009 10:34 am
@Setanta,
Just observing, Setanta, thats all. Obama wants change, and I am sure he would not want us to be an imperialist power that abused other nations. And Obama probably agrees with Castro in terms of us propping up Israel to the extreme, don't you think?
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Fri 30 Jan, 2009 10:58 am
@okie,
Who cares whether Castro agrees or disagrees with Obama on any issue?
spendius
 
  1  
Fri 30 Jan, 2009 11:04 am
@cicerone imposter,
All his most eager followers might very well do ci.

I'm quite sure nobody cares about mealy-mouthed mutterings like your's.
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okie
 
  1  
Fri 30 Jan, 2009 12:10 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

Who cares whether Castro agrees or disagrees with Obama on any issue?

I care. Thats why I voted against Obama and argued that he would be a poor choice for president.
 

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