Obama '08?

Cyclotroll is very angry that people are looking behind the curtain and seeing PrezBO, Pelosi and Reid for what they really are.

Cyclotroll is upset because even the dumbmasses are waking up to the fact that this huge spending plan is totally wrong for this nation.

Cyclotroll is pissed and I'm loving it!

http://www.athenswater.com/images/PrezBO.jpg

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@okie,

okie wrote:

Question, does Obama really believe this package will stimulate the economy, or is it an attempt to really run it into the
ground so that he can say capitalism is dead, now we need real CHANGE, the change I really wanted but did not explain?

PrezBO and his democrat demons will dance a celebratory dance on the ashes of dead babies the day capitalism is declared dead.

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@okie,

okie wrote:

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His stimulus package is akin to dipping into a stale lake and pouring out the water around the edge of the lake, as the lake continues to evaporate. He fails to see the spring needs to be revitalized that will feed the lake with lots more fresh water.

Now that you described the analogy, please explain what you mean? Your statements makes no sense; speak more directly to the stimulus plan and why your lake analogy is pertinent?

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@okie,

Again, okie, please explain your lake analogy to Obama's stimulus plan? Your criticism is meaningless without explain why.

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@cicerone imposter,

ci, it's not a stimulus plan!

PrezBO's plan amounts to a huge spending plan and a welfare handout.

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@H2O MAN,

You and some others may not want to call it a "stimulus plan," but the intent is there. Just because some of the plan is based on non-stimulus programs doesn't mean it's not a stimulus plan. It includes many "safety nets" for programs the Obama team feels are important to save them from falling through the cracks, but I disagree with the majority of them, because they should be timed in after a sufficient number of jobs are created first to increase the tax base to fund those programs. Job creation should be number one; everything else can wait. Throwing all that money into a thousand programs only creates waste and unaccountability.

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@cicerone imposter,

This all seems so familiar.

Remember Clinton's stimulus bill in 1993? No Republican votes for that one either, and just look how it lead to the great recession of the late 199...

Wait a tick. It lead to the great expansion of the 1990's.

Nice try Republicans, none of you have a single clue what the **** you are talking about when it comes to economics. You would think that after being shown to have such a failed economic policy - after all, it was your party who ballooned the gov't for the last 8 years and created this mess - you would think that the Republicans would do some soul-searching and eat some humble pie.

Guess not though.

Cycloptichorn

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

You and some others may not want to call it a "stimulus plan," but the intent is there.

PrezBO no longer calls it a stimulus plan... and it's true intent is being misrepresented from every angle liberals can find.

Whatever you want to call it, it is clear that it needs to die and a fresh new plan needs to be worked up.

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@Cycloptichorn,

10 Democrat members of the House voted against O boy's plan.

http://www.moonbattery.com/barack-obama-clown.jpg

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@H2O MAN,

Barking up the wrong tree; 10 democrats not voting for the plan has no consequence. The GOP "no" votes will have consequences they fail to see.

The reason is very simple; Americans want change, and the GOP still doesn't "get it."

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@cicerone imposter,

The left does not 'get it"!
Undefined change and change for the worse is not what the American people want.

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@H2O MAN,

When you speak of the "American People," exactly who are you talking about, because the majority approves of Obama by over 60%?

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@cicerone imposter,

01/24/2009 07:46 PM ID: 76513 Permalink
President Obama Gets His First Gallup Approval Rating

In the first Gallup poll assessing President Obama's approval rating, 68 percent approve of the job the new president is doing so far, 12 percent disapprove, and 21 percent say they have no opinion.

You must be one of the 12% who disapprove. LOL

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@cicerone imposter,

CI, I'm one of the 68% who so far approves of what he's doing. I think he's right on with the FOIA stuff; I'm in favor of his cabinet picks; I like his lobbying policies (however I do question the exemption safety net he built for himself).

However, by the next time this poll is taken I may be in the disapprove category. This stimulus package has a bunch of garbage in it. Billions of dollars of garbage. People are looking at it as small potatoes (what's 5 billion of pork/waste in a $850 billion package) but that IS a mistake. We are borrowing every penny of this economic bailout and EVERY PENNY needs to be scrutinized.

If THAT doesn't happen, I will be severely disapointed.

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@Cycloptichorn,

Cycloptichorn wrote:

This all seems so familiar.

Remember Clinton's stimulus bill in 1993? No Republican votes for that one either, and just look how it lead to the great recession of the late 199...

Wait a tick. It lead to the great expansion of the 1990's.

Nice try Republicans, none of you have a single clue what the **** you are talking about when it comes to economics. You would think that after being shown to have such a failed economic policy - after all, it was your party who ballooned the gov't for the last 8 years and created this mess - you would think that the Republicans would do some soul-searching and eat some humble pie.

Guess not though.

Cycloptichorn

Right... You were going along so well when you started with "Remember Clinton's stimulus bill in 1993? No Republican votes for that one either, and just look how it lead to the great recession of the late 199..." because you were correct. It did lead to the recession in the late 1990's and early 2000's.

linky

I am not sure exactly why you would think Clinton had a great economic policy in place when, in fact, he didn't. Talk about not having a ******* clue...

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@McGentrix,

McGentrix wrote:

Cycloptichorn wrote:

This all seems so familiar.

Remember Clinton's stimulus bill in 1993? No Republican votes for that one either, and just look how it lead to the great recession of the late 199...

Wait a tick. It lead to the great expansion of the 1990's.

Nice try Republicans, none of you have a single clue what the **** you are talking about when it comes to economics. You would think that after being shown to have such a failed economic policy - after all, it was your party who ballooned the gov't for the last 8 years and created this mess - you would think that the Republicans would do some soul-searching and eat some humble pie.

Guess not though.

Cycloptichorn

Right... You were going along so well when you started with "Remember Clinton's stimulus bill in 1993? No Republican votes for that one either, and just look how it lead to the great recession of the late 199..." because you were correct. It did lead to the recession in the late 1990's and early 2000's.

linky

I am not sure exactly why you would think Clinton had a great economic policy in place when, in fact, he didn't. Talk about not having a ******* clue...

Bull ****, McG. You don't know what you are talking about. Mankiw is a Conservative hack and I'm not persuaded by his blaming of the 2001 recession on actions Clinton took 8 years earlier.

I don't look to the head of Bush's council on economic advisers for advice on anything. And I have no idea why you think that anyone would care what this fool had to say.

Cycloptichorn

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@cicerone imposter,

I'm not talking about a tiny focus group that participates in the poll you cite.
We are going to be in far worse shape than I first thought if PrezBO is going to be poll driven.

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@cicerone imposter,

How can PrezBO have an approval rating so soon?
What has he done?

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@Cycloptichorn,

Cycloptichorn wrote:

Bullshit. Do you even know the first thing about what is in the package? Or are you just bitching because it didn't include the Republican solution to everything, namely, cut taxes for the rich?

Cycloptichorn

Not much yet, but I am learning. Lets see, ATV trails, National Endowment for the Arts (probably more obscene art funding), tax rebates for illegals, Amtrak ( the same RR that has lost money forever), more tax rebates to people that pay no tax, more unemployment benefits ( does this encourage more people to go to work), more money for the government to buy new cars ( I see them driving almost all new cars now?), mass transit, money for the Smithsonian, more federal funding for education ( so that more local control is lost), etc. etc. etc. What else, cyclops?

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@maporsche,

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If THAT doesn't happen, I will be severely disapointed

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If you are not severely disappointed many times during the next several years by what Obama does or does not do...or what the congress does or does not do...

...then something is drastically wrong.

These people are working with a crisis of unimaginable proportions...and it is going to get much worse before it turns upwards.

They are going to be trying stuff that will totally alienate half the country at almost every turn. Sometimes you will be in the group being alientated...sometimes not. If you are always alienated--or never alienated... like some of the posters here will be...then you are as big an asshole as they are.

There is no way these people will always do the things most of us want done.

If it were that easy...there would be no crisis.

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