Obama '08?

@Frank Apisa,

Frank Apisa wrote:

Spendius...the communists were even more insistent that everyone “earn their living” than we. We have always had much more tolerance for people who inherit wealth, steal wealth, marry into wealth...and in general, use the toil of others to accumulate wealth.

My comment that it no longer makes sense to pay humans to do jobs that robots, computers, and other machines can do is simply recognition of a fundamental capitalistic principle: If a factor of production like labor can be obtained in an expensive way or in a cheaper way...chose the cheaper way.

Not sure what the communism remark was about.

With each passing year...it becomes less and less reasonable to pay humans to do most of the jobs that need doing.

Oh, I dunno; I think there are plenty of jobs that need doing, that haven't been done in a while if ever.

Just a lot less manual labor, and a lot less uneducated positions. Now, I can see how this would be a problem for some in society, but is it such a bad way to evolve?

Cycloptichorn

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@Frank Apisa,

Frank Apisa wrote:

With each passing year...it becomes less and less reasonable to pay humans to do most of the jobs that need doing.

LOL

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@okie,

"Advocate, have you noticed that your man, Obama, has begun the journey to sell Israel down the river? Obama chose an Arab network for his first televised interview as president. I do not take that as accidental, it is staged and planned to send a message, and I think it could be only a first step to abandoning Israel, which is our only loyal ally in the Middle East that I know of."

It is an unwarranted stretch to say that O's actions represent an abandonment of Israel. I favor the US meeting with Iran, Hamas, and the Taliban. We have nothing to lose doing this, and it may end up benefiting Israel. Nixon met with China, and the results were beneficial.

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@okie,

Capitalism is a fantastic engine of wealth. Unfortunately its inherent contradictions make it unsustainable in the longer term. (and now we witness its implosion)

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@Steve 41oo,

Capitalism is also the engine that motivates quality. It's only how the government and captains of industry uses it to benefit the majority rather than themselves that has been lost during the past two decades.

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@Steve 41oo,

What are the inherent contradictions?

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I must also mention that the conservatives in congress are wrong to push for "only" tax cuts. Bush's tax cuts have not produced jobs, but did the reverse. Bush's job creation is the worst since Hoover. Our country lost 2.6 million jobs last year. When is his tax cuts supposed to create those jobs that he promised?

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@cicerone imposter,

http://www.athenswater.com/images/PrezBO.jpg

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@H2O MAN,

Oh, look! You made a post! With a funny picture in it!

Your intellectual capacities are amazing! A true role model for every conservative and gun nut out there!

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@okie,

okie wrote:

What are the inherent contradictions?

you dont know?

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@Steve 41oo,

Of coarse, he doesn't know. His perception of politics and economics was learned from comic books.

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@okie,

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What are the inherent contradictions?

That it thinks it can defy the inexorable laws of gravity and destiny.

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@Summer Glau,

I'm glad you have returned to enlighten us once again.

Please define Conservative & Gun Nut in your own words.

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@Steve 41oo,

Steve 41oo wrote:

okie wrote:

What are the inherent contradictions?

you dont know?

Capitalism is the worst economic system on earth, except all the rest of them.

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@okie,

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Capitalism is the worst economic system on earth, except all the rest of them.

That's just flippant okie. And cliched.

How can it work when it is shot through with PC and other anti-capitalist tripe?

You're all to blame. This thread is arguing about scapegoats. Every last one of you would have been working in the financial system had you been good enough.

Capitalism is the only system. It's managing it with the population gone off the rails that is the problem. After Hubris comes Nemesis. If you can't do the time don't do the crime. It's over a hundred years since Veblen said that America was a psychiatric ward.

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@Steve 41oo,

Ok, I state that I do not know the inherent contradictions in capitalism.

Please enlighten me.

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@maporsche,

What they view as contradictions, as Marx believed, are nothing more than checks and balances that make capitalism or free markets work. Marxists cannot separate what looks good to them on paper, and reality, as determined by human nature, which they cannot change.

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It looks like PrezBO is focused on building a Nanny Nation right here in the USA.
O boy's Nanny Nation will feature institutionalized national protectionism and national economic interventionism.
These radical national economic & social regulatory policies are designed to become accepted without question.

O boy's policies will result in years and years of hyper inflation.

Contact your state senator and persuade them to stop PrezBO.

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@H2O MAN,

Question, does Obama really believe this package will stimulate the economy, or is it an attempt to really run it into the ground so that he can say capitalism is dead, now we need real CHANGE, the change I really wanted but did not explain?

His stimulus package is akin to dipping into a stale lake and pouring out the water around the edge of the lake, as the lake continues to evaporate. He fails to see the spring needs to be revitalized that will feed the lake with lots more fresh water.

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@okie,

okie wrote:

Question, does Obama really believe this package will stimulate the economy, or is it an attempt to really run it into the ground so that he can say capitalism is dead, now we need real CHANGE, the change I really wanted but did not explain?

His stimulus package is akin to dipping into a stale lake and pouring out the water around the edge of the lake, as the lake continues to evaporate. He fails to see the spring needs to be revitalized that will feed the lake with lots more fresh water.

Bullshit. Do you even know the first thing about what is in the package? Or are you just bitching because it didn't include the Republican solution to everything, namely, cut taxes for the rich?

Cycloptichorn

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