Obama '08?

As far as youthful recreational drugs making someone a drug user, would anyone call president Bush a drug user? If not, then smearing Obama as a drug user for his past usage is not correct and would qualify for a smear tactic.

Oh yeah? Well, you are a misogynist pig! And a wife-beater!

See? Anyone can make accusations without a lick of proof, and they are worth roughly the same: nothing.

For you to make blanket statements about all the 'advantages' minorities have, without acknowledging that they also face big disadvantages at the same time, is ridiculous and indicative of someone who doesn't have a f*cking clue what they are talking about. I know that you are an American Indian. I know that this means you were eligible for certain gov't assistance that I was not. I also know that your ancestors were treated like ****, in a way that mine (probably) were not; and that you were more likely to NEED the assistance then someone of my race would be.

To accuse me of racism, for knowing these things? Idiocy, and you're better then this. Take a deep breath, mkay?

Cycloptichorn

It looks as if some members toke the position that Obama's past drug use is not an issue. They got their noses out of joint.

Weed best remember that Obama admitted using drugs (even if he's now turned over a new leaf). It's in all the papers. I could reefer you to the specific quote if you like.

Doobie careful before claiming it doesn't matter. You're just stirring the pot, it doesn't mean boo.

There's really no reason to hash this subject yet again. The magazine cover was a subliminal thing. Don't be a dope.

But that never works anyway. Just ask MaryJane. She'll tell you it's all smoke.

mysteryman wrote:

Cycloptichorn wrote:

Here's Obama today, summing up exactly what you bunch are trying to do.

Quote:

Nobody thinks John McCain has a new idea on how to fix our country's problem. All they've been doing, every ad has been attacking me.

Not one person thinks he has any new ideas, so they're trying to make me risky. "He's not patriotic."

We don't have much to offer, but "he's risky." I know you don't really like what we're doing, but "he's risky." That's their argument.

It's true that change is hard. Change isn't easy. And the question you have to ask yourself is, what's more risky? Bringing about changes you know we need to make, or doing the same thing over and over and over again even though we know they won't work.

We are in a time where it is risky NOT to change.

Cycloptichorn

Where are the FACTS in that statement?
Since he presented no facts, it must be his opinion.

So since its his opinion he cant be accused of lying, right?

It's not a factual claim on his part. Though it is fair to say that this is the tactic that you and other Republicans are trying to use against him.

Cycloptichorn

Nobody thinks John McCain has a new idea on how to fix our country's problem. ...

revel wrote:

As far as youthful recreational drugs making someone a drug user, would anyone call president Bush a drug user? If not, then smearing Obama as a drug user for his past usage is not correct and would qualify for a smear tactic.

I think I've seen several hundred posts about GWB being a druggie or some snide comment about his previous drug use or being a dry drunk, etc.

Obama is the Macintosh of politics.

Cycloptichorn wrote:

mysteryman wrote:

Cycloptichorn wrote:

Here's Obama today, summing up exactly what you bunch are trying to do.

Quote:

Nobody thinks John McCain has a new idea on how to fix our country's problem. All they've been doing, every ad has been attacking me.

Not one person thinks he has any new ideas, so they're trying to make me risky. "He's not patriotic."

We don't have much to offer, but "he's risky." I know you don't really like what we're doing, but "he's risky." That's their argument.

It's true that change is hard. Change isn't easy. And the question you have to ask yourself is, what's more risky? Bringing about changes you know we need to make, or doing the same thing over and over and over again even though we know they won't work.

We are in a time where it is risky NOT to change.

Cycloptichorn

Where are the FACTS in that statement?
Since he presented no facts, it must be his opinion.

So since its his opinion he cant be accused of lying, right?

It's not a factual claim on his part. Though it is fair to say that this is the tactic that you and other Republicans are trying to use against him.

Cycloptichorn

Let's see ...

The Rockstar wrote:

Nobody thinks John McCain has a new idea on how to fix our country's problem. ...

Is that his opinion? No ... he asserted it as a fact.

Now, the really important question is whether he has any evidence that "Nobody thinks John McCain has a new idea on how to fix our country's problem," because if he doesn't have any evidence, then Obama is clearly a liar.

Obama should be required to show the facts that lead him to utter that assertion. And if he cannot, I would hope Cyclops would just admit Obama is a lying sack of goo.

Actually, it was his opinion; ...

H2O_MAN wrote:

Obama is the Macintosh of politics.

McCain is the Rainsoft water softener of politics.

Cycloptichorn wrote:

Actually, it was his opinion; ...

Then he's a dumbass.

By the way, can you tell me what McCain's new ideas to fix our countries problems are?

Cycloptichorn wrote:

By the way, can you tell me what McCain's new ideas to fix our countries problems are?

Priority 1 is to keep Obama from getting elected.

It looks as if some members toke the position that Obama's past drug use is not an issue. They got their noses out of joint.

Weed best remember that Obama admitted using drugs (even if he's now turned over a new leaf). It's in all the papers. I could reefer you to the specific quote if you like.

Doobie careful before claiming it doesn't matter. You're just stirring the pot, it doesn't mean boo.

There's really no reason to hash this subject yet again. The magazine cover was a subliminal thing. Don't be a dope.

But that never works anyway. Just ask MaryJane. She'll tell you it's all smoke.

I would wager that I have spent far more time interacting with, living with, and working with minorities, then you ever have or will. I really would.

Ticomaya wrote:

Cycloptichorn wrote:

Actually, it was his opinion; ...

Then he's a dumbass.

And that is your opinion.

By the way, can you tell me what McCain's new ideas to fix our countries problems are?

Cycloptichorn

Obama is the Macintosh of politics.