Obama '08?

Obama got a bounce in Gallup as well.



It's important to note, that McCain has not led a single national poll for over two months now, and has only tied in a few tracking polls for a single day at a time. Not impressive.

Cycloptichorn

That polling is nice, but the important one is the electoral votes which shows Obama wayyyyyy ahead.

It is to those who are interested in projecting what the results of that poll might be, Woiyo. If you aren't interested, fine. It's easy to understand why, the current picture is depressing for you guys

Cycloptichorn

Cycloptichorn wrote:

It is to those who are interested in projecting what the results of that poll might be, Woiyo. If you aren't interested, fine. It's easy to understand why, the current picture is depressing for you guys

Cycloptichorn

What "guys" are you referring?

Why is not Obama more ahead if, as you portray, he is campaigning against some tired old man?

What interests me is how you will react if you are wrong and Obama losses. My guess is you will say McCain stole the election.

okie wrote:

Good thing he turned down public financing, or there would be alot more people upset than there is, and there are enough now to listen to a guy dis his own country in Germany, while running for president.

Public financing doesn't kick in until after the nomination at the convention. Okie, your lack of accuracy makes you look foolish with comments like this.

Why don't you point out the 'dis' to me, Okie? Please. Was it when he talked about how much he loved America?

Cycloptichorn

cicerone imposter wrote:

That polling is nice, but the important one is the electoral votes which shows Obama wayyyyyy ahead.

Yup. The important part of THAT map is how many 'solid' electoral votes each candidate has; Obama has more then 3 times as many solid votes as McCain does.

Cycloptichorn

cicerone imposter wrote:

The major problem has already arisen; seven million more American are without health care, and more are losing their coverage as they get laid off from their jobs and the cost of private coverage fees escalate at double-digit rates at a time when most Americans are struggling to buy fuel and food.

We must start some place, and I'll take Obama's plan over McCain 24/7.

I have a question about Obama's healthcare plan, and I would love to see him asked it.

This is from his website...

Quote:

"I...believe that every American has the right to affordable health care. I believe that the millions of Americans who can't take their children to a doctor when they get sick have that right...We now face an opportunity - and an obligation - to turn the page on the failed politics of yesterday's health care debates. It's time to bring together businesses, the medical community, and members of both parties around a comprehensive solution to this crisis, and it's time to let the drug and insurance industries know that while they'll get a seat at the table, they don't get to buy every chair." -Barack Obama, Speech in Iowa City, IA, 5/27/07

So, is he not going to provide coverage for illegal immigrants and anybody else that isnt an American?

Since he specified AMERICANS, its a valid question.

Obama's health care plan does not exclude illegal immigrants.

You'll pay for their health care.

McCain announced that he will bring in Osama bin Ladin, and put him on trial.


Senile? Yup!

real life wrote:

Obama's health care plan does not exclude illegal immigrants.

You'll pay for their health care.

Fellow citizens of the world, ....

sozobe wrote:

I enjoyed the speech. I was wondering what happened after the line about his Kenyan dad -- Amanpour just explained that some sort of a chant went up? What was it though? (She said "Kenyan chant" does that mean it was a chant of "Kenya, Kenya, Kenya" or something in their [a] native language?)

As Cyclo said, it was a ululation. To transcribe it for you, it would go something like

>>Female in crowd: yip, yip, yip, ayee, yip, yip, ayee, yip, yip (shouted very rapidly in a high pitched tone).
(Crowd cheers, Obama chuckles.)




As to crowd size, MSNBC has the full video of the speech and it has occasional crowd shots that show the size.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/25835684#25835684

Here are some screen shots I did from the video:




And here's a link to them where you can enlarge to see them better if you wish.

I know that we're not supposed to be impressed by the size of the crowd if we're not already Obama supporters so, for those that aren't just think of the photos as tourism ads from Berlin's convention visitor's bureau aimed at CEOs looking for venues big enough to hold an international company's annual employee picnic.

cicerone imposter wrote:

McCain announced that he will bring in Osama bin Ladin, and put him on trial.


Senile? Yup!

I think McCain said he would abide by the Supreme Court ruling granting habeas.

Either that or he said we'd give him a fair trial before we hang him.

I can't remember which .... I must be senile. God help me when I get to be your age, c.i.

"We have various options. The Nuremberg Trials are certainly an example of the kind of tribunal that we could move forward with. I don't think we'd have any difficulty in devising an international -- internationally supported mechanism that would mete out justice. There's no problem there."