Obama '08?

Senator Obama seems to me to be the only logical outcome of giving women the vote.

If American men have lost the power to order their womenfolk how to vote Mr Obama is a shoe-in.

Go back to the pub Spendi. Your sexist non-wit is unwelcome.

cicerone imposter wrote:

spendi, That you would even consider comparing Obama to Bush's "assertions" shows how out of touch you are about the American political scene.

Spendi is pulling (trying to pull) our collective plonkers, bless him.

Mr Bush's financial insights are revelatory, however,...... about how flawed the American electoral process is.

:wink:

I've considered my bias (decidely not in support of Obama) but still have to wonder why serious Obama supporters are exulting about the size of the German turnout for his speech.

I really can't imagine anyone, in America, who is not already supporting Obama being impressed by the turnout.

Virtually any liberal American candidate can draw big crowds in Europe, which is ironic since we have right of center governments in the UK, France, and Germany, and a rise of the right-wing throughout the continent.

Perhaps not so odd afterall.Understandably, Europeans who recognize how in thrall they are to American economics and geo-political strategy will prefer an American president who is in sync with their economic and geo-politcal sensibilities. Certainly they are apt to appreciate any that go out of their way to flatter them and exaggerate their importance in the world.

In any case, why should American moderates and independents care whether the crowd was 20,000 or 200,000 strong?

Instead I can imagine certain numbers of this folk being turned off by the spectacle of a candidate for the American presidency wooing Europeans.

There is a clever article on NRO, author escapes me, which compares the political advantages of an American candidate who appeals to Europeans with those of a Roman candidate who appealed to Greeks.

I appreciate that some of you would cut off your fingers before you keyed in the NRO URL, but others may find it of interest. Google National Review, go to the site and you will quickly find it.

This trip has been quite succesful for Obama. Hard to argue otherwise. I don't think it's paved his way to the White House, but it sure hasn't blocked that path.

I'm worrying that the cosmic fix is in. When he sunk that long range 3-pointer at a military base if Iraq, I thought "This guy is in the Zone!"

Rockhead, I'll be visiting Easter Island in December, and will be taking pictures of those rockheads. If you like, I can let you have one for your avatar. Do you want a frontal, backside, left profile or right profile?

Damn, I'd all but given up on politics, and then, Spendi pops in...

Whodathunk it?

spendi, In your pub world, anything outside that pub is boring to you.

Well, I have spent almost 2 months away from this forum to try to reset my political compass and try to "get over" the Clinton loss.

Well, I'm back.......and still will not be voting for Obama.

That being said, I will not be voting for McCain.....what a bad campaign he's been running.

So, it looks like I will be writing in Clinton for president in my Illinois ballot. Of course, IL will still go to Obama with or without my vote.

Obama has been pissing me off lately.....backing out of public financing, voting for FISA being two of the biggies.

maporsche wrote:

Well, I have spent almost 2 months away from this forum to try to reset my political compass and try to "get over" the Clinton loss.

Well, I'm back.......and still will not be voting for Obama.

That being said, I will not be voting for McCain.....what a bad campaign he's been running.

So, it looks like I will be writing in Clinton for president in my Illinois ballot. Of course, IL will still go to Obama with or without my vote.

Obama has been pissing me off lately.....backing out of public financing, voting for FISA being two of the biggies.

Why not write in Captain Crunch?

Hill people...

maporsche wrote:

Well, I have spent almost 2 months away from this forum to try to reset my political compass and try to "get over" the Clinton loss.

Well, I'm back.......and still will not be voting for Obama.

That being said, I will not be voting for McCain.....what a bad campaign he's been running.

So, it looks like I will be writing in Clinton for president in my Illinois ballot. Of course, IL will still go to Obama with or without my vote.

Obama has been pissing me off lately.....backing out of public financing, voting for FISA being two of the biggies.

Why not write in Captain Crunch?

Hill people...

When you look at the big picture between Hillary and Obama's universal health care program, it becomes a toss-up of personal preference, but they "both" will push for universal health care - which is "the" important issue for me.

OCCOM BILL wrote:

maporsche wrote:

Well, I have spent almost 2 months away from this forum to try to reset my political compass and try to "get over" the Clinton loss.

Well, I'm back.......and still will not be voting for Obama.

That being said, I will not be voting for McCain.....what a bad campaign he's been running.

So, it looks like I will be writing in Clinton for president in my Illinois ballot. Of course, IL will still go to Obama with or without my vote.

Obama has been pissing me off lately.....backing out of public financing, voting for FISA being two of the biggies.

Why not write in Captain Crunch?

Hill people...

I tried OBill...I did. I was getting too pissed off at you crazy Obama people and I had to leave this site and try to judge the guy on his own. He still speaks well, but has made a few bad decisions in my eyes.

I still may vote for him.....but I can't imagine what he'd do between here and now to get my vote....maybe take Clinton's position on universal health care....