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Canada’s Biker Wars

 
 
Chumly
 
Reply Mon 13 Mar, 2006 02:32 am
At least 150 people have died during the eight-year turf war between the Hells Angels and the Rock Machine.

CBC News Online

Biker gang members share a passion for leather jackets and motorcycles. But beneath the image of long-haired rebels with tattoos lies a criminal underworld.

Rival gang members are beaten, tortured and killed over turf. The gangs are fueled by multibillion dollar drug deals, with car theft, prostitution and money laundering rounding out the sources of revenue.

Biker gangs share these characteristics:
They show off their colors in public.
Biker gangs use force and violence to survive and grow. Intimidation, arms and explosives are their weapons of choice.
The organizations have a hierarchical structure. Committing crimes is left to new recruits while those higher up reap the rewards.
The hierarchical structure allows the leaders to operate with impunity while flaunting their image of power to attract recruits and draw them into crime.
It is difficult for law-enforcement agencies to infiltrate these organizations because becoming a member involves committing crimes.
The Criminal Intelligence Service of Canada considers the Hells Angels to be the foremost organized crime group, topping traditional Mafia and ethnic gangs. The Hells Angels began in 1948 in California and has grown to a network of 1,800 members in 22 countries.

It's estimated that Canada has about 250 full-fledged members and about 2,000 associates. The largest and most-feared chapter of the Hells Angels was formed in Montreal. In 1977 it merged with another gang called the Popeyes.

The Hells Angels' arch-rivals are the Rock Machine. The Rock Machine appeared on the Montreal crime scene in 1986 and now numbers about 60 full-fledged members.

Biker gangs are run like lucrative businesses. The FBI estimates the Hells Angels take in $1 billion a year worldwide from drug trafficking. In 1995, the east-end Montreal drug trade alone was worth about $5 million.

But the profits come at a deadly price. At least 150 people have died during the eight-year turf war between the Hells Angels and the Rock Machine. While Canadians were aware of the biker war, few cared until the death of 11-year-old Daniel Desrochers. He died when a bomb exploded outside a biker hangout.

His death and the outrage that followed prompted Bill C-95, the legislation that stiffens penalties for convicted offenders who are shown to be members of established criminal organizations.

Justice Minister Anne McLellan hopes the bill has enough teeth to stem the violence and end the crime. "As they find new ways to commit their criminal acts and hide their ill-gotten gains … it's incumbent on us to be one step ahead of them at least."

But as police and politicians attempt to put a stop to organized crime, biker gangs are expanding. The Rock Machine is rapidly spreading from Quebec into Ontario. So are the Hells Angels. They're countering with plans to expand into Ottawa and Sudbury. Police have also noticed a growing friendship between Hells Angels and Ontario's Satan's Choice gang.

Police fear the Rock Machine's expansion is their first step to build a cross-Canada network. The Rock Machine hopes to join a larger world-wide biker gang called the Bandidos. Their alliance may already be developing; the Bandidos Web site welcomes the Rock Machine members to their fold.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/bikergangs/
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Mon 20 Mar, 2006 07:22 pm
You can be thankful that you are in Vancouver rather than Montreal.

I am curious as to why you post so many, what appear, to be anti Canadian posts without comment. Are you a true Canadian or an import?
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roger
 
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Reply Mon 20 Mar, 2006 08:55 pm
I can think of people who post what appear to be anti American posts. Americans; true Americans.
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Mon 20 Mar, 2006 09:07 pm
I know, Roger. I am just curious as to why?
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roger
 
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Reply Mon 20 Mar, 2006 09:43 pm
Now, that I don't know. I could speculate that we know our own countries best. More speculation: some people tend to see only the best, while others tend to see the worst. Some look it over and say "Could be better (or worse), but. . . ".
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Chumly
 
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Reply Mon 20 Mar, 2006 10:19 pm
Intrepid wrote:
You can be thankful that you are in Vancouver rather than Montreal.

I am curious as to why you post so many, what appear, to be anti Canadian posts without comment. Are you a true Canadian or an import?
I was born in Comox on Vancouver Island.
My parents were both born in Toronto.
All my grandparents were born in New York.
All my great-grandparents came from Europe.

I don't consider the posts you ask about to be anything more than reasonably factual, but I will say that nationalism is an obsolete and highly dangerous belief, and as such causes just as much if not more problems than religion does.

What is your definition of a so-called "true Canadian" ?

Why do you ask if I am a so-called "true Canadian" ?

What is your definition of a so-called "import" ?

Why do you ask if I am a so-called "import" ?

Since you appear to give credence to my historical status please provide your historical status so that I may understand you in the context of your views and questions.
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Reyn
 
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Reply Tue 11 Apr, 2006 08:33 am
I think the accusation that the posting of this interesting article is "anti-Canadian" is definitely inflammatory and belongs only in the Religious and Political arenas where that sort of trash talk goes on.

Chumly, do us a favour (note the Canadian spelling, not favor Laughing ) and report on the Bandito thing, and pass me a Tim Horton's coffee, eh?

<Reyn madly waving the Canadian flag from the sidelines>

(Oh, and by the way, I was not born a Canadian. I'm one of those damn imports.)
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Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 11 Apr, 2006 08:37 am
I started a thread on this topic, but had not yet gotten back to post the information about the Bandito gang and the arrests of the five suspects. I'm a native-born American--Intrepid should be able to satisfy his lust to label someone as anti-Canadian by accusing me. After all, i am one member he loves to hate.

My thread, MURDER WILL OUT? could benefit from an update, if Chumly is willing to copy and paste his information into that thread.
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Chumly
 
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Reply Tue 11 Apr, 2006 01:48 pm
Copy and pasted. It would be interesting to see Intrepid rise to my challenge 4 posts up.
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Chumly
 
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Reply Wed 12 Apr, 2006 02:29 am
More news!

The article is in French, but the gist of it is that the Quebec government is thinking of banning sport bikes of larger than 400cc displacement. The claim is that the government owned insurance company doesn't want to pay for deaths/injuries caused by motorcycles.

I ride, so this may have serious echoes for British Columbia which also has a government owned non-competitive socialist insurance monopoly for mandatory basic insurance.

Québec devrait bannir des routes la moto «sport»

There may however be darker reasons why Quebec wants to prohibit certain larger bikes as the topic of this thread alludes to.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 12 Apr, 2006 05:18 am
It is certain that biker gangs have been a worrisome issue for la belle Province for quite a long time--i knew that long before i paid much attention to Canadian news.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Wed 12 Apr, 2006 05:43 am
banning cruiser bikes and choppers is like banning "colors" or wearing tatoos. Ive always thought that as long as they just keep killing themselves, whats the problem?
As for turf, if they have a turf shortage, I can reccomend Mr Mulch.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 12 Apr, 2006 05:53 am
The problem, as has been learned by bitter experience in Québec with the Hell's Angels, is that biker wars, if not immediately addressed, leads to more violence, which sooner or later, and usually sooner rather than later, impinges on the greater community. If you let 'em kill each other, with impunity, they think nothing of just shooting up the landscape if it includes a desired target. Additionally, they bring drugs, prostitution and illegal fire arms in their wake. One could argue that drugs and prostitution ought to be legal, but you're not going to get a lot of agreement from people, especially when the drug involved is home-made meth. As for the guns, that's illegal by Federal law in Canada, and Canadians are currently becoming concerned with increased gun violence.
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detano inipo
 
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Reply Wed 12 Apr, 2006 07:43 am
Biker gangs are organized crime at it's worst. They are a threat to all of us. No teddy bear campaign can make them look harmless.
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Hells Angels use billboard for image campaign
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Dec. 16 2004
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The Ontario wing of the Hells Angels has put up a billboard on a Toronto highway as part of a new public relations campaign.
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The motorcycle gang says they want to "right the wrongs" done to them by the "government-controlled" media.
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The Angels' PR campaign comes amid an ongoing trial in Barrie, Ont., north of Toronto, in which the Crown is trying to prove that the Hells Angels are a criminal organization.
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http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/1103225211845_98634411/?hub=TopStories
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Slappy Doo Hoo
 
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Reply Wed 12 Apr, 2006 07:46 am
Canada has gangs? What do they use to shoot each other, bb guns?
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Slappy Doo Hoo
 
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Reply Wed 12 Apr, 2006 07:48 am
Here's Canada's most feared biker gang, the "Lemonade Stands."

http://www.bayweekly.com/year01/issue9_26/images9_26/Severna%20Park%20kids%20on%20bikes.jpg
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farmerman
 
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Reply Wed 12 Apr, 2006 07:52 am
I need to post a "im just kidding" sign on some of my posts so I dont get confused with someone who gives a ****.

Weve had a major biker gang problem here in Pa,NJ and NY. The gang most noted for commission of most heinous crimes were the PAGANS. It took a few teams of cops , posing as rival gangs, to draw em out and then , after the smke cleared, many of the bikers ratted out their "brothers".
They are all just as incompetent as the mafiosi. They can be stopped . In Pa , the cops "trim the hedges" every few years when the bikers try to rise again. The meth market has been driving the "Bikers Inc" businesses. Its easy to track meth labs and make busts on bikers who will, turn on their kin with hardly a second thought. I doubt if its different in Canada
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detano inipo
 
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Reply Wed 12 Apr, 2006 07:54 am
Hell's Angels stripped of biker bunker
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Mar 7 2003
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A Quebec judge ruled Friday that the province can keep a bunker it seized from the Hells Angels five years ago.
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The bunker, which is located in Saint Nicolas near Quebec City, was confiscated from the biker gang under legislation that allows the province to seize the proceeds of crime.
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The decision came down on the same day that senior Hells Angels member René Pearson was sentenced on drug trafficking charges.

Pearson was found to have bought the building, which is worth about $200,000, with money he made through drug trafficking.
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The bunker will most likely be demolished, and the property where it stands will be handed over to the city of Levis.
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The bunker had been bombed several times by rival biker gangs. The court decision called it a recognizable symbol of criminal activity.
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http://www.cbc.ca/montreal/story/qc_hellsbunker030307.html
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farmerman
 
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Reply Wed 12 Apr, 2006 07:57 am
Weve also been using RICCO statutes on the bikers, so its good that Canada has a similar law pending
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Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 12 Apr, 2006 08:34 am
RICO constitutes a happy instance of the law of unintended consequenced.
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