Is being gay a choice?

My dear k, I was not referring to you when I mentioned "nitpicking", etc. I don't mind a good discussion myself, actually. I just thought aspects of this "debate"/discussion were offensive. Guess I've just seen too much anti-gay stuff on too many threads here recently, that's all. Please do excuse my moral posturing rather than sticking to the logistics and mechanics, Dr S! How very remiss of me!

Far from it, you are welcome to all the moral posturing you can endure.

I was simply pointing out, as a response to being unjustly characterized as 'anti-gay', that moral posturing was not the basis of my position nor my argument for said position.

If you dont like the heat stay out of the kitchen. "Sorry, but this is offensive" is never a valid nor contributory point.
Wizard all people are offensive to someone, so yes offensive people (everyone) are born that way. (Oh and to your earlier remark about "no child left behind" and us being "trailer park kids", you can shove several As at Brittish A-level up your metaphorical rear orrifice).

msolga, one of my mottos is that the balance between emotional tendancy and intelligence is an inversely proportional one. And your previous post was very emotional.
(People are going to cross-link a lot of these things and predictably snipe back like kids but anyway) - We care how a diabetic person becomes so because we want to prevent it. Axe murders and terrorists are also 'people', so being a person doesnt actually have any weight as somekind of a dramatic statement or whatever u reckon. People do not deserve respect, it is earned (I personally respect very few people).
Your tire of the nit-picking is both welcome and ignored.

Oh, and you probably didnt notice this as you spat in emotional (and unintellectual) disgust, but race, sexual orientation, political orientation all effect what is person 'is' and what they do with their life. So your final argument is also null and void.

That was a five day delayed reaction before you could think of a retort to no child left behind in a trailer park. Somehow I can comfortably discount anything stated here by a Satanist and a Race Driver -- it means zip.

Damn Lightwizard, you sure got stamina. :wink:

I've been succesful in ignoring this thread. (until now )

Is being gay a choice?

I sure hope so. I love women.

Pardon?

lol, i havent replied for five days coz i have a real life and stuff like that. But we'll assume that i saw your post 5 days ago and sat at my computer for the 5 days until I could think out what to say to you, as tho its important or something, just so you feel better.
To return to the point, you basically said I was dumb coz of my veiws, and I outlined why I am the exact opposite, and therefore my views are not dumb.
You are welcome to discount everything I say, but I remind you that this in its self does not make the things I say wrong.


I said, "Your tire of the nit-picking is both welcome and ignored".
Now stop nit-picking.

He's been run over by his own tire and apparantly this morning doesn't have a life and "stuff like that."
Don't slam the door on the trailer when leaving.

I thnk there a lesson to be learned about RaceDriver205 here.

Why do you hope so? Do you want men to turn you on? Is that a choice?

For Amigo:

HETEROSEXUAL QUESTIONNAIRE

(©1972, Martin Rochlin, Ph.D. Reprinted with permission from the author.)

This questionnaire is for self-avowed heterosexuals only. If you are not
openly heterosexual, pass it on to a friend who is. Please try to answer the
questions as candidly as possible. Your responses will be held in strict
confidence and your anonymity fully protected.

1. What do you think caused your heterosexuality?

2. When and how did you first decide you were a heterosexual?

3. Is it possible your heterosexuality is just a phase you may grow out of?

4. Could it be that your heterosexuality stems from a neurotic fear of
others of the same sex?

5. If you've never slept with a person of the same sex, how can you be sure
you wouldn't prefer that?

6. To whom have you disclosed your heterosexual tendencies? How did they
react?

7. Why do heterosexuals feel compelled to seduce others into their
lifestyle?

8. Why do you insist on flaunting your heterosexuality? Can't you just be
what you are and keep it quiet?

9. Would you want your children to be heterosexual, knowing the problems
they'd face?

10. A disproportionate majority of child molesters are heterosexual men. Do
you consider it safe to expose children to heterosexual male teachers,
pediatricians, priests, or scoutmasters?

11. With all the societal support for marriage, the divorce rate is
spiraling. Why are there so few stable relationships among heterosexuals?

12. Why do heterosexuals place so much emphasis on sex?

13. Considering the menace of overpopulation, how could the human race
survive if everyone were heterosexual?

14. Could you trust a heterosexual therapist to be objective? Don't you fear
s/he might be inclined to influence you in the direction of her/his own
leanings?

15. Heterosexuals are notorious for assigning themselves and one another
rigid, stereotyped sex roles. Why must you cling to such unhealthy
role-playing?

16. With the sexually segregated living conditions of military life, isn't
heterosexuality incompatible with military service?

17. How can you enjoy an emotionally fulfilling experience with a person of
the other sex when there are such vast differences between you? How can a
man know what pleases a woman sexually or vice-versa?

18. Shouldn't you ask your far-out straight cohorts, like skinheads and
born-agains, to keep quiet? Wouldn't that improve your image?

19. Why are heterosexuals so promiscuous?

20. Why do you attribute heterosexuality to so many famous lesbian and gay
people? Is it to justify your own heterosexuality?

21. How can you hope to actualize your God-given homosexual potential if you
limit yourself to exclusive, compulsive heterosexuality?

22. There seem to be very few happy heterosexuals. Techniques have been
developed that might enable you to change if you really want to. After all,
you never deliberately chose to be a heterosexual, did you? Have you
considered aversion therapy or Heterosexuals Anonymous?

"Do you want men to turn you on?" I don't understand?????

I think there's some confusion here -- all hetero's must now answer the questionnaire.

I started taking the test. I understand the point you are making Lightwizard. That is a very clever method. I'm on your side.

I say if you want to be hetero be hetero, If you want to be gay be gay. If you are doing it for the wrong reasons it's to your own unhappiness.

The enlightened will always have to take the unenlightened by the hand and they'll always try to brake free and run back to where it is comfortable, where they can understand or where they have more privlidge.

But they can only slow the inevitable they can't stop it with their bullsh!t. Innless they use the "Nazi" technique. They have no case they just slow the group consciousness like most reactionaries.

The religious wingnuts would prefer that homosexuals were marked with a pink triangle so they could avoid them at all costs. The questionnaire is quite funny but has an effective point to make.

If you are having to "learn" sex, especially after you are an adult, you need a sex therapist. I'm sure there are many heterosexual adults that do not have an enjoyable and healthy sex life -- likely the ones who complain about gays.

Their just like thr BORG in startrack. I don't see a gay movment to outlaw hererosexuality! (Although I did get felt up in a bar in Santa Monica once)

According to their spokesman, in the form of an assimilated Captain Jean-Luc Picard, the Borg only want to "raise the quality of life" of the species they "assimilate." (See "Best of Both Worlds") Androids, for example, they view as primitive and obsolete. Born humanoid, they are almost immediately implanted with bio-chips that link their brains to a collective consciousness via a unique subspace frequency emitted by each drone.

They are interconnected like the Borg.

Is being gay a choice? give me a break. No! Your gay or your not gay. We should be asking "Is being an idiot a choice?"

Cound't agree with you more Amigo.