Is bird flu a hoax?

H5N1 has killed 75% of the people whome it have infeceted. So the mortality rate of the disease is high.

WOW! A hoax. This is a major relief, Michael, and I thank you for posting it here.

Hi Vinsan,
Yes I had read that post from you, it's quite interesting. I don't think that it addresses any of the issues brought up by those who think the dreaded bird flu pandemic is a hoax.

Certainly there is a lot of money to be made from companies that produce vacines so there is motive (millions and millions of dollars).

Even the wording of a new case is done in such a way to make people scared. "The death toll rises as another new case of the dreaded bird flu pandemic is found" , well of course it would, hardly likely to go down is it?

There are sugggestions bird flu is well documented in birds going back at least 50 years and in all probability hundreds of years.

One comment on your statement in the other post.

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H5N1 has killed 75% of the people whome it have infeceted. So the mortality rate of the disease is high.

This would assume everyone who had the strain was known. Since there is no real way to tell the difference between the H5N1 and ordinary flu (which rarely kills) one might say 10 times that number could have had the H5N1 thought it was the flu got better and no one knew the first thing about it.

Vinsan,
thank you for the links .

Let's cut to the chase. How is the H5N1 virus diagnosed?

Through an antibodi test? don't antibodies usually mean you have a resistance to a disease? At best all this can tell you is the person has been in contact with H5N1.

How about through a PCR test. The flaw here is, why do you need to amplify the germs millions of times to detect them. Normally wouldn't one expect to see millions of germs without the need for amplification to signify illness?

New Laboratory Assay for Diagnostic Testing of Avian Influenza A/H5 (Asian Lineage)

On February 3, this report was posted as an MMWR Early Release on the MMWR website http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr

On February 3, 2006, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) announced clearance of the Influenza A/H5 (Asian Lineage) Virus Real-Time Reverse Transcription--Polymerase Chain Reaction (RT-PCR) Primer and Probe Set and inactivated virus as a source of positive RNA control for the in vitro qualitative detection of highly pathogenic influenza A/H5 virus (Asian lineage). Two genetic lineages of influenza A/H5 viruses exist: Eurasian (Asian) and North American. The primer and probe set, developed at CDC, is designed to detect highly pathogenic influenza A/H5 viruses from the Asian lineage associated with recent laboratory-confirmed infections of avian influenza in humans in east Asia and, most recently, in Turkey and Iraq.

From December 1, 2003, through February 3, 2006, the World Health Organization (WHO) reported 161 confirmed human cases of avian influenza A (H5N1); of these, 86 (53%) were fatal (1). The infections occurred in Cambodia, China, Indonesia, Iraq, Thailand, Turkey, and Vietnam. No infections with avian influenza A/H5 (Asian lineage) have been reported in animals or humans in North America. Since February 2004, CDC has recommended enhanced surveillance in the United States for possible cases of human infection with avian influenza A (H5N1) virus (2). Consistent with these interim recommendations, testing for this virus is indicated when a patient has symptoms of severe respiratory illness and a risk for exposure (e.g., direct contact with ill, dead, or infected poultry in a country with outbreaks of influenza H5N1 among poultry). Testing for influenza A/H5 (Asian lineage) should be considered on a case-by-case basis in consultation with local or state health departments.

Testing with the FDA-cleared laboratory RT-PCR assay should be conducted in conjunction with other laboratory testing and clinical observations to help diagnose influenza in patients who might be infected with influenza A/H5 (Asian lineage) viruses and to provide epidemiologic information for surveillance purposes. The test also will help to identify influenza A/H5 (Asian lineage) viruses in laboratory viral cultures. Definitive diagnosis of influenza A/H5 (Asian lineage), either directly from patient specimens or from viral culture, might require additional laboratory testing and clinical and epidemiologic assessment in consultation with national influenza surveillance experts. Negative results do not preclude influenza virus infection and should not be used as the sole basis for treatment or other patient management decisions.

Testing with the new assay will be limited to laboratories designated by the Laboratory Response Network (LRN), which consists of approximately 140 U.S. laboratories in 50 states. LRN-designated laboratories ensure that the laboratory employs experienced personnel who 1) are trained in standardized rapid molecular procedures, 2) perform analyses in facilities with appropriate biosafety equipment and containment procedures, and 3) use established means for communication with public health programs. Influenza A/H5 (Asian lineage) assay protocols and reagents will be distributed by CDC to designated LRN laboratories nationwide during the week of February 6--10, 2006. The real-time RT-PCR primer and probe set is the only laboratory method that has been cleared by FDA for avian influenza A/H5 (Asian lineage) testing and in vitro diagnostic medical device use in the United States. Additional information about the laboratory assay is available at http://www.fda.gov.