[B]What It Means To Be A Republican[/B]

Republicanism is a religion.

Good Christians give thanks to God for saving a baby during Katrina.

The rest of the family died and the neighborhood was destroyed. They don't question that, they only know how to give thanks.

Few Republicans question their leaders. Their only purpose in life is to support their party, right or wrong.

Few Republicans question their leaders. Their only purpose in life is to support their party, right or wrong.

9/11 happens. He responds by running away to Nebraska.

The president puts together false claims to go to war with the wrong country.

The president cheerfully gives away the surplus to the richest people in the country. Then he runs up record debts, just to throw more money their way. He claims it has helped America's economy. People act like they believe him. That's what it means to be a Republican.

wiretaps without warrants, a straightforward violation of the constitution.

Alberto Gonzales helped come up with the program that rejected the Geneva Conventions, that permits torture,

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9/11 happens. He responds by running away to Nebraska.

I am still bemused over the fact that the most extreme of Bush's critics find fault with the standard Secret Service procedures of bustling the president away from likely assassins.

It is almost as if they want Bush to whip out a machinegun and do personal battle with any assassins who come his way.

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The president puts together false claims to go to war with the wrong country.

Afghanistan was the correct country.

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The president cheerfully gives away the surplus to the richest people in the country. Then he runs up record debts, just to throw more money their way. He claims it has helped America's economy. People act like they believe him. That's what it means to be a Republican.

I'd rather it were done with spending increases, but deficit spending can help bring us out of a recession.

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wiretaps without warrants, a straightforward violation of the constitution.

Hardly.

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Alberto Gonzales helped come up with the program that rejected the Geneva Conventions, that permits torture,

The torture is of course illegal.

But it is perfectly legal to detain a captured enemy soldier until the end of the war.

And if that enemy soldier is an unlawful combatant, they lose their Geneva 3 POW status and can be detained incommunicado under Geneva 4.

oralloy wrote:

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9/11 happens. He responds by running away to Nebraska.

I am still bemused over the fact that the most extreme of Bush's critics find fault with the standard Secret Service procedures of bustling the president away from likely assassins.

It is almost as if they want Bush to whip out a machinegun and do personal battle with any assassins who come his way.

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The president puts together false claims to go to war with the wrong country.

Afghanistan was the correct country.

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The president cheerfully gives away the surplus to the richest people in the country. Then he runs up record debts, just to throw more money their way. He claims it has helped America's economy. People act like they believe him. That's what it means to be a Republican.

I'd rather it were done with spending increases, but deficit spending can help bring us out of a recession.

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wiretaps without warrants, a straightforward violation of the constitution.

Hardly.

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Alberto Gonzales helped come up with the program that rejected the Geneva Conventions, that permits torture,

The torture is of course illegal.

But it is perfectly legal to detain a captured enemy soldier until the end of the war.

And if that enemy soldier is an unlawful combatant, they lose their Geneva 3 POW status and can be detained incommunicado under Geneva 4.

Afganistan is the correct country to bomb? Where DO you get your information, Mr. Dithers? Try wikipedia for some reality:

List of the hijackers from wikipedia:

Note: There have been variations in the spelling of the names of the alleged hijackers in differing accounts of the attacks. This is because there is no one correct way of transliterating from the Arabic alphabet to the Latin alphabet.
The hijackers aboard American Airlines Flight 11 were reported to be:

Waleed al-Shehri (Saudi Arabian)
Wail al-Shehri (Saudi Arabian)
Mohammed Atta (Egyptian)
Abdulaziz al-Omari (Saudi Arabian)
Satam al-Suqami (Saudi Arabian)
Mohammed Atta is believed to have flown Flight 11 into the North Tower of the World Trade Center.
Aboard United Airlines Flight 175 the hijackers were reported to be:

Marwan al-Shehhi (from the United Arab Emirates)
Fayez Banihammad (from the United Arab Emirates)
Mohand al-Shehri (Saudi Arabian)
Hamza al-Ghamdi (Saudi Arabian)
Ahmed al-Ghamdi (Saudi Arabian)
Marwan al-Shehhi is believed to have flown Flight 175 into the South Tower.
The hijackers aboard American Airlines Flight 77 were reported to be:

Khalid al-Mihdhar (Saudi Arabian)
Majed Moqed (Saudi Arabian)
Nawaf al-Hazmi (Saudi Arabian)
Salem al-Hazmi (Saudi Arabian)
Hani Hanjour (Saudi Arabian)
Hani Hanjour is believed to have flown Flight 77 into the Pentagon.
The hijackers aboard United Airlines Flight 93 were reported to be:

Ahmed al-Haznawi (Saudi Arabian)
Ahmed al-Nami (Saudi Arabian)
Ziad Jarrah (Lebanese)
Saeed al-Ghamdi (Saudi Arabian)
Ziad Jarrah is believed to have crashed Flight 93 into the Pennsylvania countryside to prevent or end an assault by the passengers.
Ahmed al-Ghamdi, Saeed al-Ghamdi, Hamza al-Ghamdi, and Ahmad al-Haznawi came from three neighboring towns and belonged to the same tribe. Wail al-Shehri was Waleed al-Shehri's older brother. Salem al-Hazmi was a younger brother of Nawaf al-Hazmi

See anyone from Iraq or Afganistan, or Iran? NOPE. Why didn't the US attack Saudi Arabia? Because of the binLaden/Bush/Carlyle Group connection.

You Americans were LIED to. Again. You invaded countries and murdered innocent people that had absolutely nothing to do with 9/11. You should all be held as war criminals, especially the soldiers who go like sheep to do the killing for creeps like Bush et al.

You Might Be A Democrat If
You think "ethics" is an eastern European country.
You've named your kids with hyphenated first and last names.
You've tried to argue that poverty could be abolished if people were only willing to redistribute their wealth.
You've ever referred to someone as a "bigot or Nazi".
You've ever tried to prove Jesus was a married man.
You oppose the death penalty, but support abortion.
You don't support school choice for others, only for yourself.
You think you might remember laughing once as an adult and feeling guilty about it.
You once broke loose at a party and inhaled, but don't admit it.
You support diversity, as long as others agree with you.
You've referred to moral fiber thinking it was a new man made textile.
You've ever uttered the phrase, "you hypocrite".
You've ever said, "the Bill Of Rights is outdated".
You answer to "No One".
You support PETA and Green Peace, but still eat beef, fish, lamb, and wear leather garments.
You protest your neighbor clearing their yard of weeds.
You only let your kids watch PBS and listen to NPR.
You scream at the thought of agreeing with a Republican.
You've argued that Western values are no values.
You agree that all the world's problems can be traced back to white Anglo-Saxon men taking advantage of others.
When people say "Marx," you think, "to bad his idea didn't work".
You've ever yelled, "capitalist".
You still wear the Birkenstocks you purchased in 1969.
You argue that you need 300 laws to control guns.
You really think that guns kill people. Not people kill people.
You want to protest something but don't know what.
You've ever said "I support civil liberties, but not personal liberties."
You will not admit that trees are a renewable resource.
You've ever said "reduce paper, save a tree".
You donate money because it makes you "feel good".
You came of age in the '60s and don't understand what went wrong.
You justify lying cheating Democrats because Republicans lie and cheat.
You ever start or end an argument on the phrase, "you are closed minded".
You never told a child that Oscar the Grouch "lives in a trash can" because he chooses to do so.
You think denial is a virtue.
You don't mind contributing 4 months of your salary to the government. You're only sorry it can't be more.
You believe that everyone else is responsible for you but you.

pachelbel wrote:

oralloy wrote:

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9/11 happens. He responds by running away to Nebraska.

I am still bemused over the fact that the most extreme of Bush's critics find fault with the standard Secret Service procedures of bustling the president away from likely assassins.

It is almost as if they want Bush to whip out a machinegun and do personal battle with any assassins who come his way.

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The president puts together false claims to go to war with the wrong country.

Afghanistan was the correct country.

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The president cheerfully gives away the surplus to the richest people in the country. Then he runs up record debts, just to throw more money their way. He claims it has helped America's economy. People act like they believe him. That's what it means to be a Republican.

I'd rather it were done with spending increases, but deficit spending can help bring us out of a recession.

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wiretaps without warrants, a straightforward violation of the constitution.

Hardly.

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Alberto Gonzales helped come up with the program that rejected the Geneva Conventions, that permits torture,

The torture is of course illegal.

But it is perfectly legal to detain a captured enemy soldier until the end of the war.

And if that enemy soldier is an unlawful combatant, they lose their Geneva 3 POW status and can be detained incommunicado under Geneva 4.

Afganistan is the correct country to bomb? Where DO you get your information, Mr. Dithers? Try wikipedia for some reality:

List of the hijackers from wikipedia:

Note: There have been variations in the spelling of the names of the alleged hijackers in differing accounts of the attacks. This is because there is no one correct way of transliterating from the Arabic alphabet to the Latin alphabet.
The hijackers aboard American Airlines Flight 11 were reported to be:

Waleed al-Shehri (Saudi Arabian)
Wail al-Shehri (Saudi Arabian)
Mohammed Atta (Egyptian)
Abdulaziz al-Omari (Saudi Arabian)
Satam al-Suqami (Saudi Arabian)
Mohammed Atta is believed to have flown Flight 11 into the North Tower of the World Trade Center.
Aboard United Airlines Flight 175 the hijackers were reported to be:

Marwan al-Shehhi (from the United Arab Emirates)
Fayez Banihammad (from the United Arab Emirates)
Mohand al-Shehri (Saudi Arabian)
Hamza al-Ghamdi (Saudi Arabian)
Ahmed al-Ghamdi (Saudi Arabian)
Marwan al-Shehhi is believed to have flown Flight 175 into the South Tower.
The hijackers aboard American Airlines Flight 77 were reported to be:

Khalid al-Mihdhar (Saudi Arabian)
Majed Moqed (Saudi Arabian)
Nawaf al-Hazmi (Saudi Arabian)
Salem al-Hazmi (Saudi Arabian)
Hani Hanjour (Saudi Arabian)
Hani Hanjour is believed to have flown Flight 77 into the Pentagon.
The hijackers aboard United Airlines Flight 93 were reported to be:

Ahmed al-Haznawi (Saudi Arabian)
Ahmed al-Nami (Saudi Arabian)
Ziad Jarrah (Lebanese)
Saeed al-Ghamdi (Saudi Arabian)
Ziad Jarrah is believed to have crashed Flight 93 into the Pennsylvania countryside to prevent or end an assault by the passengers.
Ahmed al-Ghamdi, Saeed al-Ghamdi, Hamza al-Ghamdi, and Ahmad al-Haznawi came from three neighboring towns and belonged to the same tribe. Wail al-Shehri was Waleed al-Shehri's older brother. Salem al-Hazmi was a younger brother of Nawaf al-Hazmi

See anyone from Iraq or Afganistan, or Iran? NOPE. Why didn't the US attack Saudi Arabia? Because of the binLaden/Bush/Carlyle Group connection.

You Americans were LIED to. Again. You invaded countries and murdered innocent people that had absolutely nothing to do with 9/11. You should all be held as war criminals, especially the soldiers who go like sheep to do the killing for creeps like Bush et al.

I hate to be the one to tell you but we already took care of Afganistan and removed their leadership and crippled the terrosists.

Also, we already know Iraq had nothing to do with 9-11.

You may want to read up on the subject before you start with your HATE AMERICA dribble.

Look...I can cut & paste and insult democrats with absurd stereotypes, just as well as Pachelbel

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You Might Be A Democrat If
You think "ethics" is an eastern European country.
You've named your kids with hyphenated first and last names.
You've tried to argue that poverty could be abolished if people were only willing to redistribute their wealth.
You've ever referred to someone as a "bigot or Nazi".
You've ever tried to prove Jesus was a married man.
You oppose the death penalty, but support abortion.
You don't support school choice for others, only for yourself.
You think you might remember laughing once as an adult and feeling guilty about it.
You once broke loose at a party and inhaled, but don't admit it.
You support diversity, as long as others agree with you.
You've referred to moral fiber thinking it was a new man made textile.
You've ever uttered the phrase, "you hypocrite".
You've ever said, "the Bill Of Rights is outdated".
You answer to "No One".
You support PETA and Green Peace, but still eat beef, fish, lamb, and wear leather garments.
You protest your neighbor clearing their yard of weeds.
You only let your kids watch PBS and listen to NPR.
You scream at the thought of agreeing with a Republican.
You've argued that Western values are no values.
You agree that all the world's problems can be traced back to white Anglo-Saxon men taking advantage of others.
When people say "Marx," you think, "to bad his idea didn't work".
You've ever yelled, "capitalist".
You still wear the Birkenstocks you purchased in 1969.
You argue that you need 300 laws to control guns.
You really think that guns kill people. Not people kill people.
You want to protest something but don't know what.
You've ever said "I support civil liberties, but not personal liberties."
You will not admit that trees are a renewable resource.
You've ever said "reduce paper, save a tree".
You donate money because it makes you "feel good".
You came of age in the '60s and don't understand what went wrong.
You justify lying cheating Democrats because Republicans lie and cheat.
You ever start or end an argument on the phrase, "you are closed minded".
You never told a child that Oscar the Grouch "lives in a trash can" because he chooses to do so.
You think denial is a virtue.
You don't mind contributing 4 months of your salary to the government. You're only sorry it can't be more.
You believe that everyone else is responsible for you but you.

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It is almost as if they want Bush to whip out a machinegun and do personal battle with any assassins who come his way.

oralloy said

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It is almost as if they want Bush to whip out a machinegun and do personal battle with any assassins who come his way.

Yes, please.

OOOHHH!!! Goodie for you!! I am neither Repub or Demo, so I couldn't give a rat's arse. You Americans should be for the party that represents the will of the people and isn't into using the Constitution for toilet paper as is Bushie & Co.

Pachelbel wrote:

OOOHHH!!! Goodie for you!! I am neither Repub or Demo, so I couldn't give a rat's arse. You Americans should be for the party that represents the will of the people and isn't into using the Constitution for toilet paper as is Bushie & Co.

Well, well, well...pretty touchy for someone who has no dog in this fight. Tell you what, concern yourself with your country...we'll do the same with ours.