snood wrote:Finn d'Abuzz wrote:blueflame1 wrote:Finn, nope. It's Buckley and Fukuyama who are finally agreeing that I was right all along as were all the anti-war people. We told you so.
So it's all about you.
I see.
You and the rest of your ineffectual crew told me so then. It has no greater import because Fukuyama and Buckley now see it differently.
You were wrong then, and they are wrong now.
Or do you think that every
turned Liberal speaks the undeniable truth?
What would you consider failure in Iraq?
Fair question.
Failure in Iraq is an Iraq that is no more a model of democratic government that it was prior to our invasion.
If the decision point was one day after the invasion, we failed.
If the decision point was 90 days after the invasion, we failed.
If the decision was made today, we succeeded.
Unfortunately the present history of Iraq still needs to play out.
We can't say we have failed, nor can we say we have succeeded.
Americans have come to expect momentous achievements in a ridiculously short period of time.
The question of Iraq remains unanswered, which is to be expected after such a relatively short period of time of transition.
It is foolish to suggest that everything is honky-dory in Iraq and that we have achieved our goals.
It is equally foolish to declare that the game has been lost and that the effort is, officially, a failure.
Interestingly enough, there is, virtually, no one arguing the former, and a horde of hand wringers arguing the latter.
