Iran, Iraq, Hamas and Cartoons

mele, pre-emptive wars built on lies by a Presidunce whose favorite philosopher is Christ shed bad light on Christianity. So does the cheapskate treatment of Americans in need by the religious right. Israel has the same problem with fundamentalists as the article I posted shows. They have said, "Israel, the new enemy of the True Jew". No surprise that fanatical Israeli settlers have been armed by Abramoff. Of course Islam has their extreme fundamentalists too. Funny how tied together all these fundamentalists are. Both Saddam and bin Laden having been armed and funded by the Bushies and Hamas funded in it's beginnings by Likud.

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It is incredible that some people do not realize that there are millions of Christians who take offense at the kind of scurrilous cartoon showing Christ in an embrace with a Muslim with what looks like a bullet hole in his or her back.

The people who print such trash and filth are oh so aggrieved if any cartoons show up bashing homosexuals but attempt to derive authority to post such cartoons based on the fact that they THINK that President Bush has in some way cast aspersions on the Christian religion.

If that is the only kind of rationale that is needed, then there are many filthy cartoons that can be shown on a whole variety of groups and people.

But, Blueflame apparently feels that he can dengrate the Christian Religion with impunity.

Who gives him the right to be so intolerant and hateful???

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mele, obviously Bushie is the one who denigrates Christianity. Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson are other examples of "Christians" who denigrate the teachings of Christ. Jesus warned us of men like these. Not Everyone Who Says "Lord, Lord" Will Enter the Kingdom. Forget the war crime and mass murder in Iraq and just look at domestic policy that shortchanges the needy and enriches the ultra-wealthy and you see a huge pile of loveless love trying to claim virtue for itself. Many Christians know and speak out against these hypocritical policies and so your attempt to pretend all Christians think alike is futile. You might as well just say you're either with Bushie or you're with the terrorists.

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mele, I will admit that I'm not alone in pegging Bushie and you Bushies of using Christ for anti-Christian purposes. Fellow Methodists tell Bush - Believe or Leave
by citizen kilroy
Mon Oct 18, 2004 at 02:43:01 PM PDT
Bush called on multiple violations of church teachings.

Bush's own Methodist Church fellowship is charging him with crime, immorality, disobedience to pastoral instruction, and violation of Methodist social principles. "Repent publically," the petition encourages Bush, and if not, the signers of the petition request that Bush be thrown out of the church!

Letter of petition to George W. Bush, Richard "Dick" Cheney, Bishop William B. Oden - (Bishop of North Texas Annual Conference United Methodist Council of Bishops, and others)

A Letter of Complaint Against George W. Bush and Dick Cheney

We, the undersigned, do hold that George W. Bush, a member of Park Hill United Methodist Church (UMC) in Dallas, Texas, and Dick Cheney (local membership unknown) are undeniably guilty of at least four chargeable offenses for lay members as listed in 2702.3 of the 2000 Book of Discipline of The United Methodist Church. These offenses are: crime, immorality, disobedience to the Order and Discipline of The UMC, and dissemination of doctrine contrary to the established standards of doctrine of The UMC. For these offenses, we the undersigned call for an immediate and public act of repentance by the respondents. If the respondents do not reply with sincere and public repentance for their crimes, we demand that their membership in the United Methodist Church be revoked until such time that they sincerely and publicly repent.
source

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blueflame1 wrote:

.....You know them by the way they relate to the rest of us. The quiet, knowing disdain that says that they know more than we, they care more than we, they suffer more, contribute more, matter more.

They are saintly where we are profane, godly where we are lost. ...we are something else as well. The enemy.

"This is a war," ...."It's a war between cultures. The left is trying to lliquidate religious ...., the only alternative."

sound like anyone we know ?

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"sound like anyone we know ?" Reminds me of William Bennett and the Book of Virtues.

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massagatto, aka........hmmmm

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Vietnamnurse AKA Mamajuana!!!

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mele: mamajuana passed away Sept. 15th 2003 while I was in Spain. We were dear friends. I stayed away from Able2Know after she died and have just returned to see what my old friends are doing these days.

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She did? I remember her. You sound just like her!

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Quote:

The Right to Ridicule

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/18811

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"no one may show disrepect to the messenger of god..."

http://www.cs.brown.edu/courses/cs024/images/canon/12.jpg

Quote:

"Afghanistan's Taliban has destroyed the two towering statues of Buddha in the Bamiyan Valley (March 19). The assertion of a Taliban leader that "all we are crushing are stones" is amazing. Isn't the holy city of Mecca made of stones, too? How would millions of Muslim hajj pilgrims feel if a Buddhist fanatic took revenge by blowing up Mecca's "stones"? As an imperfect Buddhist bound by vows and aspirations, I can only sit calmly through my frustrations and exercise reluctant tolerance. But l do wonder if I haven't given in to a bully yet again in the name of compassion."

D.J. Khyentse Rinpoche
Leader, United Non-Sectarian Buddhist Front
Paro, Bhutan

unless, of course, it's somebody else's messenger.....

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just another example of islamic tolerance

blow it up

I've said before and will continue to repeat

Why is it that every inter religion strife (that I know of) ALWAYS involves at least ONE side Islam

viz

Islam Buddhism
Islam Christianity
Islam Judaism
Islam Hinduism
Islam (sunni) Islam (shiia) (and Sufis. Kahjiites, etc)
Islam Secularism
Islam Polytheism
Islam Sihkism
Islam [any ****ing stupid religious creed cult or belief which is not Islam]

?

Am I getting tired of Islam forced down my throat? YES.

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Steve (as 41oo) wrote:

just another example of islamic tolerance

blow it up

I've said before and will continue to repeat

Why is it that every inter religion strife (that I know of) ALWAYS involves at least ONE side Islam

viz

Islam Buddhism
Islam Christianity
Islam Judaism
Islam Hinduism
Islam (sunni) Islam (shiia) (and Sufis. Kahjiites, etc)
Islam Secularism
Islam Polytheism
Islam Sihkism
Islam [any ****ing stupid religious creed cult or belief which is not Islam]

?

Am I getting tired of Islam forced down my throat? YES.

and it's, i think, the newest religion of the bunch.

i'm tired of it too, mate. really a drain on the ol' spiritual battery, if yer take my meaning.

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have we had

islam scientology
islam wiccan
islam ........

Thanks dtom.

It really is time to stop pussy footing about and tell the deluded Muslims what is what. The time is past when we could afford to tolerate backward repressive obscurantist creeds because we didnt want to upset peoples deeply held religious beliefs.

Lets tell the truth. If truth hurts, then LET IT.

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Steve (as 41oo) wrote:

have we had

islam scientology
islam wiccan
islam ........

Thanks dtom.

It really is time to stop pussy footing about and tell the deluded Muslims what is what. The time is past when we could afford to tolerate backward repressive obscurantist creeds because we didnt want to upset peoples deeply held religious beliefs.

Lets tell the truth. If truth hurts, then LET IT.

works for me, dude. every one of the religions we're discussing here replaced much older beliefs.

and it's gonna happen again as the human race evolves. but it sure is a slow process.

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